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Depends. If it is a blowout, then people start to head out either at halftime or throughout the third quarter. If the game is good, you don't see a huge dropoff from where I am(first few rows). What you guys have been describing on here seems outlandish and we haven't had that issue before in my time in Fargo. Leaving a game at halftime when it is close en masse? Sad.
I'm going to throw the bull$%!# flag on this one. Not going to get into why but I know the student attendance in Fargo hasn't always been great and students have not always stuck around. I believe it was around the USD game 2 or 3 years ago that things began to change for the better but you still get some emptying out at half. I have co-workers bitching about it after Indiana St a coupe weeks ago.
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I'm sure Gene Taylor and Coach Bohl look at it and say- "at least it was only a minor in possession this time."
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JOOC, who's FU??
Per the Summit league's new branding strategy they are calling their schools by the city location they are in. Its a similar branding strategy that is used by the leagues the Fargo RedHawks, Fargo Force and Bismarck Bobcats play in. FU=Fargo University
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SNOWING today. Don't forget your cold weather gear
Don't forget UND fans. The CATS are coming off a bitter loss to the #1 team in the nation and have had 2 entire weeks to think about it.
I know it gets chilly in Bozeman and you get a lot of snow but have you ever been to Grand Forks in the winter? I'm not concerned about the snow or cold weather affecting our mindset going into the game. All the guys making the trip have seen snow before and have experinced a negative sign in front of the temperature it will be on Saturday.
It could be 75 and sunny and I'd still be worried about our defense however.
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As a recent UND alumni who enjoyed football and tailgating while there and has now moved on to law school at a Big10 university I feel like the big things that students want are not easily fixed. However here they are:
1. Play schools people have actually heard of. Sorry but Montana is not a school people have actually heard of. Thats just the way it goes. You need teams that people grew up watching.
4. Have food and drink available for purchase at tailgating. Right now tailgating feels like a grand forks resident only club. I was lucky enough to have friends and family in the area to tailgate with but it often feels like a GF only club.
1. At the FCS level there are not many programs more well known than Montana.
2 & 3- You could mark it down, an outdoor on campus stadium would do nothing for attendance.
4. Fans around the tailgating area are more than willing to chat with anyone and share anything they have. While I don't disagree that selling food and drink may help, if you felt that tailgating was a GF only club it was your own fault. I'm not from GF and have shown up every week for tailgating and never had a problem finding someone to tailgate with.
5. I don't disagree. I don't think anyone is trying to compete with hockey.
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Next season, neither Jake Miller nor Jer Garmin will be starting at RB; there will be a transfer or JUCO player - I can almost guarantee it. Mussman has made it known in the last couple of weeks that the talent level needs improvement. I'd say he definitely looks for a runningback, defensive back, and even a JUCO QB to add depth.
This leads to something I was thinking on the drive back from Grand Forks after the game. UND returns 5 WR's next season and has 2 talented RFr. that will be getting playing time. If I'm an FBS QB who is looking to transfer this year for whatever reason, with the HUGE numbers Hanson has put up this season, knowing that you have all these WR coming back and pretty much an entire starting Oline returning, UND has to be a school you look at right? I know we have Molberg and Bartels who I think one of the two is going to be a stud but if another Braden Hanson comes knocking and we need to add an older QB, we take a look right.
Also, I agree, I think 3 positions se a JUCO this year. Running back, DB and LB. I have no problem trying to plug a hole going that route as a temperary fix but we didn't put to much focus on the secondary recruiting last season and we need to start to develop some players there.
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Wow, that's a first-class rationization! You write off the time zone differerence as insignificant (it's huge), and fail to consider that someone has to pay for those 5 or 6 hours of flying time. Also, what about recruiting areas? I'll take a presence in the Upper Midwest over the western states every time.
NDSU recuits all the way from AZ to Florida this year. That is Coach Cooper's new area so don't pretend like NDSU is recruiting ND, MN and SD. They are still recruiting the same areas that UND is recruiting. Second, you and Dan need to keep telling fans whose programs have been affected by time zones how terrible they are. I personally have loved the road games. I go about my Saturday, get all my !@#$ done and come home and either put the game on the radio or use my HDMI cable and hook it up to my tv. And yes Johnnyboy, I am your average joe and learned how to do that all by myself.
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When I watched it live I didn't even consider it possible that he could have caught the ball and came down in bounds. When they showed the replay I was like holy $h!t that was actually a touchdown!
Thats what I thought. Than my dad calls me on my drive home, I read the board here and now I see the writer for the Grizz said it was a TD as well. I need to see a replay cause I don't know how he did it.
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So everything I have seen or read says that Golloday got his toe down on what would have been a TD catch late in the 4th (about 2:30 left I believe). I didn't think there was anyway he got a foot down. How rediculous of a catch was that if he did? If I'm picturing this correctly he had a defender draped all over him and a ball that was thrown well over his head and he was pushed right up against the sidelines. The kid so far to me has even exceeded where I thought he would be at.
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You mean the best rated conference in FCS?
http://usatoday30.us...garin/fbc12.htm
You need to get your head out of the sand and look at reality. Repeating the Big Sky is the best conference in FCS over and over again doesn't make it true.
Last year the Great West was the highest ranked FCS conference and the reasoning out of Fargo was less teams= higher ranking. As usual that reasoning dies when if favors FU.
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Not to rush to our defense, but this year has been better for student attendence than it has for the past two years. The students came for Mines, which was the biggest reason why they nearly got 9000 for the home opener, its why they did get over 9000 for PSU for Potato. Trust me, as a student of the transition, the crowd at Montana was STILL better than any game except for Poly last year and any game other than SUU two years ago. Its been better this year.
However, I cannot defend my fellow students on this one, we dropped the ball on this one. Lets explain what was going on this weekend. a weekend women's hockey series against SCSU... and that was it. Everything else was on the road and the hockey games weren't even on TV. The game was played at the right time to sober up if ya had do and it was over early enough for everyone to still have a night out. I don't care if we were 3-4, ya show up. Simple as that. Don't get that winning excuse fixes all, if the hockey team in the middle of the season was .500, the student section would still be full.
BTW: the section in your picture is the section that usually the Band sits in. Unless the other two sections are full, no one really goes into that one. Your point is proven thought.
Well said. Students were disappointing on Saturday but have been outstanding all season. My tickets are right next to the section 214 and the students there have been loud all season.
Note: A quick google search can show that student attendance is disappointing at schools all across the country and a lot of schools would love to have had 1500-3000 students in attendance every game.
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Crap, here it goes. I'd say NDSU would fair well against that schedule. They are one of the top teams in FCS right now darell. Best part with FCS is every team has a chance t prove exactly how good by making the playoffs. This thread is going to blow up.
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John Bloomfield, who is a player for Sac. St. has been in a coma for two wees and his parents are now getting ready to take him off life support. My thoughts and prayers go to John, his family and the Sac. St. football program. Truely a sad story.
http://www.news10.net/news/article/212372/2/Family-prepares-to-take-football-player-off-life-support
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Have any of you guys noticed we haven't run any sort of screen to the rb all season. Plenty of bubble screens but nothing to the rb's? I would think with all the pass protection we ask our rb's to do that may set itself up nicely.
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UND's defense did really good towards the end but they need to do that the whole game. I still don't get why Muss went for it on 4th and 1 and not take the points.
At the time, with the way our defense was playing I had no problem with Muss going for it on 4th. The call I had the most trouble with was running it between the tackles on 3rd and 3. If I would have ran it, it would not have been with Sutton.
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Good quality win. But really 44 yards rushing?
660 passing. How many yards can an offense have?
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Just got back to Fargo, my voice hurts like hell. As for the game itself Montana should have won it. UND played horrible in the third quarter and Montana's recievers dropped passes one of them would've been a TD. Our defense continues to suck. If UM would have stopped Hanson we would've been destroyed. As for the fans, I was sitting next to a couple Grizzlies fan and in front of us were Montana fans from Sidney. They were the nicest people. 100% class act all the way. They cheered, they brought the cowbell, it was nice to have a conversation with them the whole game. They drank a lot of beer to keep the Grand Forks economy going. They said we had a nice building and the game was great that it came down to the end. A guy said if they would have had their star RB he would have made some big plays up the middle (I believe it!). Great people, and they said its too bad us two teams couldn't play every year. I told him UND's "rival games" were Montana State and Northern Colorado, but UM will be in Grand Forks the next two years (2013 is a non-conference game to make up the end of the home and home from 2010) and then conference play resumes in 2014. Great game, I really thought OT was coming. I could have killed Mussman when UND had 3 time outs and 1:30 left in the first half and he pissed it away by running the clock out. I told my dad 14 points against our defense is not a safe lead. Hanson and Hardin...UND's version of Montana to Rice, awesome connection. 660 yards for Hanson and 330 for Hardin...holy crap!!! If only our defense was strong. Oh for you NDSU fans...there was a guy among the Montana fans about 5 or 6 sections over wearing a Bison shirt...guess who he was cheering for. I hope our offense shows up against MSU, just leave the crappy defense at home.
But they didn't to all the bold above. The only thing that kept Montana in this game was us stopping ourselves with penalties and dropped passes. I saw nothing that made me leave thinking Montana should have won this game.
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If you are a high school defensive standout do you want to go somewhere you can play right away or be apart of an exceptional defense?
Depends on the kid. Its not like UND has never had an exceptional defense. This is a program who has always been known for its defensive play. Just need to get more athletes on that side of the ball right now. Sounds ok to me if I thought I had the ability to contribute right away.
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Possibly, but we've already left a negative mark with Eastern Washington, Cal Poly, and Northern Arizona, 2 of which are in states we want to largely recruit. Also, we still have Montana State and we will be competing with them in recruiting also. It's tough to say how doing poor this year will ultimately affect recruiting; hopefully being simply playoff eligible and having top-tier FCS facilities and conference affiliation will be enough. There are a few other things that need to change too though...
Eastern Washington could end up winning the nat'l championship this year. We layed an egg at their house. Regarding the other teams, we have close loses to an FBS, and two other teams that are ranked near the top of most polls, not excusable but it is what it is. You can't argue where those teams are in the polls.
We have a young offense with alot of skilled guys returning but still some spots where a young player could come in and play right away. Our defense is full of opportunities to come in and get early playing time. If I'm a young kid I see a chance to get some early run on a pretty good team that has some work to do defensively but offensively is already one of the best in FCS. Doing poorly? This team still has a realistic chance to finish .500 against the argueably one of the toughest schedule in FCS this season. Its not where I wanted to be, but it isn't the end of the world either if you step away from the ledge.
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Does it really matter how or when he suspends a player, much less how we all find out about it? From what I've seen in the past from Coach Mussman, if a player has to sit, it is probably warranted. A couple guys sat out the opener this season for missing class during the first week......................
Well said bin. A month ago we are complaining how the school to the south takes no action for their players getting in trouble. Now one of ours does and coach suspends him and we are getting on him about when he announced it. In my opinion at a lunch full of booster while your talking about which players will be out tomorrow is a bad place. I don't know the whole story behind it but one thing you can't question about Mussman is his stance on team discipline.
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Man, I just can't resist, but what percentage of times do you think a player that has sholie offers from both UND and NDSU goes to UND over NDSU? It has to be close to 50% for your point to have any merit.
Depends which fanbase you ask. We already know how you'd answer and its not even February yet.
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people realize that for them to leave the ncaa, they would have to make an entirely new ncaa, right?
First, the NCAA wouldn't let them leave. They would clapse to their every demand if/when they make a push to split.
Second, you act like they couldn't pull it off. (For the record I think they eventally get in their own division, not create their own association) For the amount of money they would be making by doing it, I'm guessing their is someone else out there as bright as Mark Emmert who could lead the organization and its not like they would have to rewrite a bunch of bylaws.
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Why is this so hard for you to comprehend? Even with your explanation you are describing a situation that causes a leveling of the playing field.
Here is a less complex example. If the FBS decided they would cut scholarships across the board, some guys that would have gone to LSU or Alabama would end up at Minnesota let's say. Would Minnesota have a worse, better, or same chance of beating LSU with players that were in previous years good enough to be on LSU's roster, but due to scholarship cuts ended up at Minnesota.
Take the last nine scholarship players off the best teams and they are better than the last nine scholarship teams off of the weaker teams. So you literally take the worst nine scholarship players off of Minnesota's roster and replace them with the worst nine on LSU's roster. Who gets better and who gets worse?
Scholarship reductions hurt the best teams the most and at that point in history NDSU was head and shoulders above everyone else.
Your assuming that LSU and Alabama keep getting the most talented players every year. In your example that may be the case and that would justify your reasoning. In regards to NDSU and the scholorship reductions, they didn't.
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Congrats to Jameer.
Student attendance thoughts and How to Fix it
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This years team has done a much better job of engaging the students from the very start of the school year. From helping freshmen move into the dorms to the high fives after games. I can't really blame students for not showing up in years past during the early part of the transition. I've been a season ticket holder since than and we can't kid ourselves, our team wasn't very good and games were boring to watch.
The steps that the team and program are taking to engage the student body off the field and put faces to names, along with a much improved product on the field that is winning and much more exciting to watch, I think are going to go a long ways. Student turnout this year, while not great, is so much better than the last couple years its not even funny. The students who are attending are much more engaged and the athletic dept. (Jason Hajdu) a few changes can/will be made to further improve the experience.
I think a big one would be to not dress true freshmen for home games and have them sit in the student section. Let them lead or join in on the cheers and let the students see how much the games mean to these guys.