Midwestern Hawk

This is a football truth...actually a truth in life. At times our offense is like watching a circus. Football at this level is 90+% coaching.

The 4th and 2 call is a summary of the UND program. The pieces are there to be a great team(5-0 in MVFC), but the mindset, game management and discipline is not. The talent will never be in Grand Forks which is good enough to make up for the lacking in those 3 areas. On the 4th and 2 , UND not only snapped it to a RB to hand off/pitch(were they sure)? but the starting QB(Tommy) was not on the field to handle the ball either.

I for one am not blaming Otis . He fumbled. It happens. He should have NEVER been put in the position to muff the exchange on the the 4th and 2. That is 100% on Bubba and the staff and everyone surrounding the team, including staff and players can figure that out. Like I said earlier you can watch D1 college football for the next 20 years and that move combined with the 4th and 1 call vs NDSU will always be as bad of coaching/game management as one will EVER see. As for the Otis situation, with how that game ended yesterday, I doubt that situation will get better over the next 3 weeks.

Yep. It was the same "football brainfart" thinking which went for it on 4th and 1 at our own 20 vs NDSU with the lead. In the football world both those coaching decisions just scream total incompetence. I would love to see us win out and finish 6-5. I just can't imagine there is not some serious morale problems on that team at the moment.

Imagine being up 28-17 vs Missouri State with under 7 minutes in the 4th qtr in a must win for your team's playoff hopes. Your offense is running for over 6 yard per carry. It's 4th and 2 at the MSU 29 yard line. Instead of just handing off the ball to Otis Weah or having Quincy Vaughn keep the ball and likely run for the first down, at the last moment QV steps to the side and the ball is snapped directly to Otis who turns to run to the right on outside zone play. Instead of running for the first down, he is supposed to hand the ball off to Belquist on a reverse to the left. The exchange between Otis and Belquist is very bad to say the least and the ball is turned over to MSU at the MSU 37. Did I mention we had a 2 score lead? Did I mention we were averaging over 6 yards per carry? Did I mention we direct snapped it to someone who I don't think has EVER taken a direct snap for the Hawks in a game and assumed he would cleanly hand it off to a WR about 7 yards deep in the backfield on a 4th and 2? That is how good teams lose football games to lesser teams.

The big problem is the tendency to lose games which should/could be won. UND was good enough to win all 4 MVFC games lost this season. In each loss, there are some "duh" coaching moments in each game.

May lose quite a few.... Maag, Waletzko, Canady, Turner, Larson, Krzanowski, Galvin, Holm, Morrison have all started all season. Haas was injured in the first game. A few may have come back but many either can't or likely won't. Definitely some holes to fill.

You are right. It wasn't great. The defense did give up almost a third of MSU total yardage on those las t2 drives. Just seemed like a total collapse, at least it did over the radio.

IMO there was likely an incredible let down after the botched 4th down trick play. Not defending porous defense, just stating a likely scenario. Probably an even bigger let down after the later fumble on 3rd down. I can't imagine there isn't some serious heated conversations happening between the staff. At some point folks internally will have to start asking WTF is going on.

I agree, if they ask tough questions they lose access. Might have been the end of an era today.

If Tom Miller is on here, how about a point blank question asking how many practices and team meetings Otis has been late or missed completely. Just ask around a bit. Will be interesting to see how they manage this going forward.

Quite an accomplishment to average 6.2 yards per carry on 41 carries and lose the game.

Hard to practice it much when Otis is not at practice or is late. I can't imagine that wasn't rolling around in the minds of most of the players....and then the fumble.

Don't forget the end of the half vs WIU. In a close game that bungled disaster could have been the difference. Sometimes, its like watching a mediocre middle school staff manage the game and situational football.

4D chess.

Coaching....

2 of the losses(NDSU & MSU) include 2 of the 10 worst coaching calls in all of 2021 college football.

It will be interesting to see what comes next. If the coaches are blamed(the 4th and 2) or if its Otis. Either way I would say the chances of losing out are 50/50.

It was coaches who lost the NDSU game and this game.

Absolutely. The game should have been sealed on the 4th down call earlier.

This kind of collapse is almost impossible.... Total F'ng horse sh&t.

So tired of this. 4th down with lead against NDSU in our own red zone. Trick play on 4th and short with 2 score lead in this one. We will never have good enough personnel to overcome this BS.

Just a bunch of horsesH&t. Anyone who calls that 4th and 2 play deserves to lose.

This is almost unreal.

Typical BS. It was the 4th and 2.