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"Solutions" You are delusional. You offer nothing. There is no value in an anonymous critic or critique. Period. And before everyone points out hypocrisy. Again, I am playing by the rules of the forum. When in Rome. Before I begin, YES I HAVE DONE EACH OF WHAT I AM ABOUT TO SUGGEST. Here's my thoughts. Step out from behind the moniker and visit with administration. Ask them why our players dress in a facility built just after WWI. Ask them why our coaches are still in Memorial. (Have any of you been in there lately.) Ask them why our locker room, weight room, and practice facility are in three separate locations which adds time and health issues (sweaty players, ND winter). Ask them why, even after the DI move, The Ralph still gets the majority of football ticket revenue. Ask them how a football program exists without even a receptionist or any other support staff to open mail, send mail, greet visitors. Ask them why we have a skeleton media relations staff for football --- even at Hockey rich UND, football should be #2, but looking at how prominent/accessible football content is, is it? Hard to find UND football outside of Grand Forks. Maybe Fargo since KFGO carries it. But after that. Are Seamore Sports, UND Football 360, and Goon really media? Oh, and before you go, read up on nutrition programs in FCS. Before attacking S&C, note that the top programs players don't eat cafeteria food. This board will say "excuses." No, these are issues that 18 year old kids and parents consider in making decisions in recruiting. I'm sure a few of you long for the good old days of grass and dirt and pushing through it all. Its a new era boys. Its an era of new expectations. Kids come in: "What can YOU do for me?" Not, "I just want a chance to make the team." So, before you continue to rip the coaches for everything that ails you. Think about this. If it wasn't for the quality people that our football staff are, where would the program be? I have had parents tell me specifically that "they" chose UND because of Coach Schmidt, Coach Agnew, Coach Freund, and dare I say even Bubba. How many of you have ever had a conversation with any of our coaches? (Yah, but football, X & O's) The program is about people. It has to be since everything around it (sans HPC) has failed the people in it. And leadership has let it fail. For decades. Now, go back to your work and take away 60% of what you need to be effective. Whatever it is. Your best tractor, can't use it. Your best salesman, he's gone. Dump 60% of the tools you need on the highway on the way into work. Now let's see how good you do your job. And, you don't have to do it in public every Saturday against competition that most often has 100% of its tools. Thank God our coaches are who they are. And our players are who they are. We have some gritty, tough, good kids in this program. But you wouldn't know it reading this forum. You guys keep doing what you're doing. YOU ARE THE SOLUTION. Wow.

Or, maybe you can prescribe something stronger?

Oh. That's right. It's a fan forum. All you need is a moniker, and a password and you are a football expert. My bad. That's the "fun" of sites like this. How stupid of me. Why stop at football. Next up, fightingsioux4life on the perils of multi national market diversity in a third world economy. I will hang up and listen. Bless your hearts.

And your credentials, other than being king of this sh&$show?

Bison Dan weighs in. The company you keep.

When in Rome.

You have a strange definition of "fun." I guess disparaging players and coaches without any personal responsibility is fun for you. Interesting. But, I guess that's what we can expect from middle school kids. Wait, what? These are adults? You're kidding. Right?

No obsession. Trust me. Its just that you are not fit to assess Eric Schmidt in anything, let alone football. Stick to what you know. Then crawl behind your little Aaron Rodgers moniker. I'm sure you have the day off from school like all the other middle schoolers. Here come the mods: don't attack the posters even when they are full of sh*&

No you are not Tom Miller. You've said there are "lots of people" who know who you are on here. So then you don't mind if I take your mask off?

Not sure where the '14s fall in, some may be Muss, some may be Bubba. But after '14, its all the current staff. Uh oh, a couple All-Americans in there. But why mess up a good post with facts? 2014 QB Keaton Studsrud TE Luke Fiedler OL/DL Austin Cieslak DE Brandon Dranka DE Drew Greely LB Dylan Bakker CB Deion Harris PK Reid Tauberheim WR Luke Stanley 2015 RB Brady Oliviera WR John Santiago OG Patric Rooney OT Bryce Blair DL Steve Greer OLB Mason Bennett OLB Jade Lawrence S Zach Arnell S Jawon Johnson 2016 WR Travis Toivonen WR Noah Wanzek TE Alex Cloyd OC Nathan Nguon, OG Ryan Tobin LB Jaxson Turner, S Jordan Canady CB Evan Holm

If you have a problem with Coach Schmidt, I'm sure he'd be happy to discuss things with you at his office at Memorial. Oh right, you'd have to give up anonymity and actually face the person you're blasting. Not your style is it?

Yup, 21 years old. A lot to learn. And yet, you hold yourself out publicly as a "man of faith," but on here, anonymously, you trash everyone and everything. You too have a lot to learn Doc.

Nobody has said anything about hurt feelings, etc. There is no reasoning with the unreasonable, no rationalizing with the irrational. You have proven to be both whenever this issue is discussed.

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Not doing any of what you are saying. Disclosed the hyperbole (saying this is a logo, perspective) It's an analogy Clyde. How in the hell have I demonized anyone? Proof of NDSU dominating marketing? Look around fella. How you can't see that is beyond me. You can hate the logo. But when you use the logo to continually create division, that's something different. There's "omission," I HATE THE LOGO AND I WON'T BUY IT. Ok, fine. Then there's "commission." I HATE THE LOGO, I'M GOING TO TELL EVERYONE I KNOW I HATE THE LOGO, THEN I'M GOING TO MOCK EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THE LOGO, MAKES ME FEEL GOOD. How does the latter help anything? Here's overblown: some of you simply have to die. Then the rest of us can start rebuilding pride in our University's Athletic Dept. (I am, of course exaggerating and do not wish death upon anyone, particularly Sioux/Hawk fans) Last post. Can't push that rock uphill any longer. Best wishes.

Nothing personal. But there's my point. What you said represents what I was saying. "Forever " and "never " are awfully long times. Not sure what the face is, but I get your frustration "Rammed down our throats." Very flawed replacement process, but how in the hell was it rammed down anyone's throat. Anytime we don't like the change or the time frame for change, for whatever reason, its "rammed down our throats. " Anyway, it's great that we respect and celebrate the past. Dacotah Legacy series encourages it and does it well. There will always be new Fighting Sioux gear thanks to the strange hypocrisy of the NCAA. But at the same time, I believe its unproductive to hang onto too much of the "pain of the past." (Note I said "I believe.") My belief. I live in the present, because the pain(s) of the past, experienced collectively, is too much. That's a bit deep for a mascot/logo discussion, but in many ways it applies to our situation. Fighting Sioux meant and means a lot to many of us. It meant and means so much to me. There was something more to it than a lion, a gopher, a hawk. Pride, honor, resolve, courage. So, what do we do from here? Continue in-fighting while our friends in Fargo dominate marketing and fan support in our region? (Nattys YES but its not the only reason. They have stepped into the vacuum created by our in-fighting.) Or, try to find some place of common ground, come together and fight. (Relatively speaking) Some of you will continue to publicly ridicule and rant. What end does that accomplish? Mock if you must, but I'd prefer the unified fight. Make Sports Fun Again.

Some people are destined to be perpetually pissed off. Nothing I say will make them more or less pissed off. That's just who they are. I contend there is a fraction who would have "hated" any attempt to replace the Sioux mascot/ logo. Not all, not even a majority, but a fraction. And I believe that fraction is often over-represented on siouxsports. It is often displayed here. No denying that. There is very little rationale to their disdain. "I hate it." Or mocking ridicule. Post Office. Burlington Northern. To deny this disdain originates in the NCAA ruling, is ludicrous. Often in life, it isn't about what happens to you, but how you react to it. The reaction of many on this board does not indicate an ability or willingness to adapt. It's scary. Thank God it's just sports.

Not ideal for marketing. And additionally the controversy would have been discussed every time a broadcaster or writer would say, "North Dakota is the only NCAA school without a nickname...." Mistake by Kelly to run a "CONTEST ". That's for middle schools not universities. Should have been undertaken as a University branding initiative. Make something positive out of all the negative surrounding the inconsistencies of the NCAA and all the bitterness that resulted. Instead, we got a contest winner. 'Tis what 'tis. Still doesn't justify the petulance of many which only serves to further divide. Our student-athletes don't deserve the wrath of those who refuse to adapt. While we fight over mascots and logos, NDSU has moved ahead in the hearts of the region's fans. Yup, winning national championships helps, but so does a divided, petulant fan base. There will be apologists on here who rip me for saying this, but I live in the Fargo area. They love our on-going mascot/logo fight. Hell, they'd pay to create even more division if they could. So, just keep being the antagonists that you are. Hate the Hawk and all that it stands for. "Take my Fighting Sioux from my cold dead hands. " While the rest of the state flies its Bison flags.

I get the part of, "Telling people how to feel..." Not my intention, but can understand how I am coming off that way. I still don't believe anything would have been an acceptable replacement for those hell-bent on tearing down anything associated with the new mascot or logo. Ok, then what is the alternative to our reality? Swear at the moon, gnash your teeth, and lash out at any replacement til the day you die. Doesn't seem to me a more reasonable approach. I will accept the present and hopefully enjoy a happier UND Athletics existence.

Divorced 15 years ago. Remarried 10 years ago. Do I miss some things about my first wife. Hell yes. Do I dwell on it. No. Because its over and I have a new person to be concerned with. Some posters on here refuse to admit reality. Hey, we got screwed. S*&^ happens. NCAA rules. Their ball. To sit and dwell on and denigrate everything that has anything to do with the new mascot, logo, swag, etc. has very little to do with how it looks but the attitude of the viewer. The new logo could have been a naked Pamela Anderson from back in the day and you'd still bitch. Find a way to move forward. It ain't coming back. You don't have to love it, but its some of you are just simply unrealistic about the new anything. "They only wear it because there's nothing else." "They hate it, so they wear it ironically." NOOOOOO. Most have realized we're 7 years removed from a decision that was 40+ years in the making. Don't have to like it...but at least try to accept reality. Maybe you'll be happier...not sure with some of you. And if that doesn't work, grab Thelma and scoot off the cliff. For Christ's sake make an adjustment to the new reality. 121 pages of this s&^* is enough.

What you just said makes absolutely no sense. Next time, have a point.

Deion Harris tweeted "Blessed" getting congrats. Anyone know what's up?

Hey Lakes. It's not slander if it's TRUE. Did you learn your meaning in your one semester at 'SU? https://www.jamestownsun.com/news/1725120-district-court-sentences-two-felony-charges

Ah yes. lakesbison stealing credit cards, threatening elected officials, crying in court, and lying about his Bison baseball career since fan forums were invented....

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