BigGame

Some guys really struggle with the speed of the game, and it picks up a lot in live game action over practice.

Really, the coaches actually played the guy who earned it is practice. That is just shocking!

They are all guesses big guy, people on this board do not know what really went down. I heard from a guy who knows isn't fact.

Maybe he was unhappy that the backup QB ran the ball and took some shots? Knowing who had to play if he got himself hurt.

I don't disagree, but how do we know what play was addressed or if it even was? Zim had some very good plays and was clearly playing with emotion but not every play was positive.

Nothing is ever absolute because teams can run a system but make any adjustment to it they feel beneficial but having a QB that could call any play would be the exception and not the norm. Spread offenses run more of a adjustment based upon defensive alignment and don't really just call whatever play they want. The run/pass option plays are more like running the old triple option than a QB calling plays on the field. So those things are not at all the same as a QB walking to the line and calling whatever he wants. The QB's would also be coached to call certain plays based upon situation and alignment and if they called the wrong thing or made a bad check, don't you think the coaches should address it? If they didn't I would be concerned.

No spread QB has options to call plays and that is the bulk of college offenses anymore.

Usually you have a check to a specific pass play, most would have a run pass option but yes sometimes they are just run checks.

None have been given carte blanche to call whatever play they want. They are given checks for situations when they see certain things on the field. If they make the wrong check or check when they shouldn't they hear about it as the should.

Outside of a handful of NFL QB's, do you know of any that can walk up to the line and call any play they want? And yes, QB's are instructed on what options they have and sometimes they shouldn't be making checks and some plays they shouldn't check into.

Did you watch it? because the play calling was good, the boys on the field screwed that game. Outside of that all time favorite double reverse for a huge loss. Stats aren't telling the entire picture and that is why I actually went back and watched almost the entire second half of that game last week. Rudy may need to go but on SS very few look at it objectively. If we are making a pros and cons list the cons side for Rudy is pretty long but I don't think it should be piled on with things that were not his fault.

It is usually just a check and the QB can't walk up and call whatever play he wants. It is usually 2 options especially with a guy new to the system that hasn't played much.

I didn't see this chewing out for calling his own play but if it happened and he got chewed out for doing something he shouldn't why is that a thing? The personnel use is an issue but opinions likely differ on what that should be. John is a homerun hitter and pretty boom or bust and in a ball control offense I would use him in spots other than RB most of the time. Brady and James are much better in the backfield for this offense because even if the blocking is poor (which has been a lot) they rarely lose yards and leave the offense in a more manageable situation. Yes this is a issue but again if the plays I am watching are executed without so many mistakes all the time it really isn't the main issue. Not certain who made the call on Heidlbaugh but after last season I thought for sure he would be moved to another position.

So he walks out of the huddle staring down his one WR option on the play? Pretty easy to stop that but then again I have never actually seen what you describe.

Yes, but I personally feel play calling is less of an issue than most on SS think it is. To me execution of the offense, which is on both coaches and players, is the bigger problem. UND doesn't have the talent to overcome all the mistakes they are making both mental and physical.

You are correct he struggles throwing the ball to the flat with accuracy, I guess I didn't realize that one thing makes in impossible to consider him as a duel threat. I am not sure that is why we don't throw screens because many screen passes don't require the ball to be thrown out into the flat. I will disagree about the locking on to WR's because I do think he has done that in the past but I haven't really seen it this year except when he is running for his life.

Correct, but we were discussing this UND offensive juggernaut that never existed.

Go watch the second half of that game, bitch about the one call all you want but outside of that it was a well called game and players didn't catch the damn ball.

That isn't what I said, but someone who knows football really well watched him in one game and didn't think he was very good. One game really is never enough to judge a player as good or bad.

You have got to be kidding, a 5 yard stop route is somehow this great and creating play calling. Yes, and first down with limited time in UND end of the field in a game in which UND couldn't move the ball with any consistency. If the tackle wasn't missed how likely was it UND scores on the drive, not very considering how the game had gone up to that point. I was working in Texas at the time and a guy I coached with actually said he thought the UND QB was terrible. Studs is a duel threat and I was disappointed Rudolph didn't use him as such early in the year likely to protect him but lately he has mixed in some QB runs and it helps the offense.

So UND doesn't have any big passing plays this season or last. Talk about cherry picking you look at two 3 and outs in a half and acts like it's every drive not mention half of the 3 and outs this season are caused by a dropped pass and blown blocking assignment. Not at coaches fault when a guy is put in the right spot but doesn't execute. I am playing devils advocate here because I don't think most on the board are looking at the entire picture and if UND starts firing people I hope it is based upon everything not just a lynch mob mentality. If a few coaches are let go at the end of the season I will not be surprised but I would like it done for valid errors or struggles that they could have fixed and didn't or wouldn't.

I agree, and why can't we snap the ball consistently yet? That is a big issue and a coaching issue. You can't have negative plays and turnovers on something as simple as a snap.

So a missed tackle on a short pass and a long run after is driving the team down the field? You can't know what would have happened but the play that got them in scoring position was a fluke and a good play but very lucky.

You are being very short sighted by putting all this blame on the offense when the defense has actually taken the bigger step backward this season and for some very valid reasons. UND WR's still don't consistently catch the ball so how much confidence should a play caller have with the passing game. A lot of people on the board have jumped on the Zimmerman band wagon but I didn't see enough to know he is certainly the answer but I did like a lot of what I saw from him. UND offense hasn't been good but it hasn't been as horrible as people are saying. The OL has been an issue, WR drops are and issue, play calling has been an issue but you can likely say that for most teams. A big issue this season has been turnovers which is different from last year.

Did you watch the title game?