Longtime fan

Honestly ..who gives a damn what the Fargo narrative is.

I for one will never count a season where football begins play in February and most teams don’t compete as legit. Many team have recovery time during that stretch. Recruiting. Weights. Coaching changes….etc…to prepare for the legit August start season. So yes …I do not count the ridiculous covid year as legit. If you and others would like too that’s fine by me.

My negativity resides with me full time as long as bubba is still coach. I have invested many years and a lot of money into this football program over numerous decades. Bubba is not a head coach. He is still here so I expect the same BS outcome next year. No expectations except that they can’t win the big road game, can’t win a playoff game, same boring pressers , same lack of of motivation…etc . However … he will win one meaningful game at home that will keep fans thinking they turned over a new stone…..rinse and repeat. How many UND fans really think Bubba can go to Fargo and win next year ? Truly believe that ? Not happening. So bringing in another ex UNDer doesn’t excite me. If Jake can get UND to actually win a meaningful game on the road or in the playoffs I will be smiling. But “deer in the headlights “ Bubba is still here so I doubt that happens. I think it might be best for me to step away from the season tickets for awhile like I did with this board for 3 years. Step away and breathe. I love UND and love UND football. I also wear my heart on my sleeve with this program. And right now it’s not healthy for me. Wish I could be like more on this board and simply be ok with being so average but I cant. It hurts.

If you read my post in its entirety you will see my “clue” is that bubba still runs this complacency train. 10 years prove that. The ex UND’ers have won ZERO playoff games in D1. So that is the reasoning for my non excitement. Does that make sense ? But you might of noticed I also typed ..Hope it turns out great. Not a complaint. Hope he can bring UND a single playoff win. Does that make sense ?

Well …here we are again ….another UND connection. Had Jake not accepted the gig what ex UND’er would have it have been? Hard to get too excited for this hire. Hope it turns out great but bubba is still steering the boat so the complacency is still well in tact. Not sure on Jake’s credentials but rest assured ….he will most definitely fall victim to mediocrity. If he has/had any resemblance of being an aggressor…throw that out in the dumpster. Not until “oh gosh oh golly “ is gone will UND ever be competing for the gold.

The only good thing about the DeBoer news is that we have Bubba

Great guy. He will keep the “elephants” rolling.

Iowa st 0-1 Montana 0-2 Idaho st. Toss up but at home 1-2 San Diego . 2-2 Murray st 3-2 Ndsu 3-3 N Iowa 3-4 Youngstown 3-5 Indiana st 3-6 SDSU 3-7 South Dakota hmm …toss up 3-8 illinois st 3-9 A lot depends on who’s coming back and transfers the teams will gain But as of right now with bubba at helm I see 3 to 4 win season

What narrative you speaking of ?

The more I think about it the more frustrated I get. Bubba has concreted himself into a very selfish human being. He has to realize he has set this program back many many years. His right hand man that had nearly two decades in GF leaves for a lesser position. If he looked into the mirror and asked what his accomplishments have been in 10 years while being head coach at UND …what would the true response be? “I’m just an above .500 coach I havent won a single playoff game I’m a defensive minded guy that has a horrible defense 90% of the my recruits only have D2 offers…which coincidentally works against most of the fcs (D2) not the top 10 tier I refuse to adjust to in game situations I can’t win on the road I simply cannot exude confidence I guess he can say he was better than mussman. Not a tough assignment. He hasn’t accomplished sh&t. He beat Ndsu this year then teared up??? Cmon man. It’s selfish for him to continue to collect a paycheck while this program sinks further.

-Facilities are far from the problem. Und has excelled in that category compared to 3/4 of the fcs. Throw that out the window. -coaching salaries. This is a must to hire a competent qualified coach and staff. Can UND ponie up ? Or can they and refuse to? - player nutrition . With the transfer culture now …keeping above average talent will be nearly impossible. Money talks combined with transfer ease makes nutrition very difficult Again …it’s been noted numerous times but extending Bubba after a s&@t season just shows the true colors for und athletics (minus hockey). Keep it simple ….keep the cheap guy. Complacency at its best. In their eyes mediocre is better than the worst. How about striving for the best ?

Definitely don’t have to tear down one sport to be successful in another. SDSU “main” sport is basketball…women’s and men’s. They have done great at doing so. Football is second and has done great. UND throws everything nearly 100% at hockey. All we hear when it comes to paying up for coaching in all other sports than hockey is …”UND doesn’t have the money”. That’s the frustrating part

100%. For the people saying we are better than when Muss was running the show is laughable. How could it be worse !?! Mussman was a mess. Great recruiter but incredibly bad coach. Most anyone with 3rd grade level schooling could have done better. Bubba brought some “new life” to the program initially but now we are back to Mussman days. It had been very evident early in bubbas time here he wasn’t head coach material. AD and UND had other ideas. Keep a guy that will stay here forever and don’t have to pay up for it. Easy call for them. And here we sit. Guys that bleed Kelly green are walking to South Dakota to take a lesser job. Leaves his coordinator job to take a positional job. I can’t blame him tho. They know football and what it takes to get to the next level. UND is surrounded by universities that know football. Montana st, Montana, sdsu Ndsu. The fcs kings are up in the north middle of the country. Und can get there too if competency was #1

Great move for Danny. I was very neutral on Danny. Didn’t really care if he had stayed or left. He brought some good things early on followed with a bubba like last couple years. Definitely an upgrade from Rudy however. The great thing for Danny is now he will be surrounded by competent personal that give a damn about football and how to win. He has a passion for football and sdsu has a passion for football. Great combination. I would have to think Danny’s thought was he’s “stuck” here. I am pretty sure he thinks the same as us naysayers see it. Blah, old school and frustrating. No way a guy leaves that has bled Kelly green for as long as he has to take a lesser job at the same level. Money is king for everyone buying pretty sure he was sick of bubba ball. I have been for 6 years. Bland and boring. If Bubba truly loves this university and FB team as much as he claims to…he would have stepped aside last year and let Danny have his shot. Instead….UND is stuck with oh gosh oh golly blah master. Bubba has had this train on derail mode for half a decade. Bubba can’t coach! Period ! His record and stats cannot lie. He knows how to stop a veer offense. Whoopie. The FCS is a very weak league. Outside the top 10ish the rest are really D2 material. With the ever changing college athletics bubba is a lost soul. UND needs a change immediately

Zinger

Your lack of football knowledge is disturbing. You bring zero to this board. I’m sorry. You do bring something. You have the ability to be annoying! Keep up the good work lil bro !

IMO Tommy was very average. A good game manager yes. Tommy looked good against weak opponents. With that said ….the coaching staff stiffened up when competing against stiffer competition. Danny's dismal play calling against sac st is proof for the coaching staff is way over their heads Und…with the current players can compete. They destroyed Ndsu. Ndsu was never in it. Not even close. I think we all know that was influenced by others ….not this coaching staff. Coaching is definitely the downfall of und football. So damn sickening to hear Ndsu football coverage around here. Why can’t und ever compete for a title???? Coaching!!!!! It is so damn frustrating to watch und fail year after year in this average league. Will und be better without Tommy ? Feeney and kaminski have far more raw talent than Tommy but they will be held back by the ineptness of the coaching staff. I see little change next year even with a more talented qb.

The most frustrating thing with und being flatline average is the fcs is so flatline average. Most of the perennial competing teams have moved up. Und should be competing for top dog every year in the fcs. Not even close right now. There is only 3 contenders…sdsu Ndsu and Montana . I mentioned couple years ago that they should model their tourney to the fbs + 4. Take the top eight. Autos are a joke. For a team like drake to ever sniff the playoffs is enough evidence that not only is the fcs weak but what a waste of money for the university for travel. Most years …the fcs has 2-4 teams that can truly compete for a championship. The others are spending a lot of money for a participation ribbon. There is literally no way that sdsu, Ndsu or Montana doesn’t win the championship. That’s the 3 this year. No one else has a chance. Most likely those 3 will be the only ones next year as well. And the year after that and the year after that. Maybe add Montana st. Drake never stands a chance of winning it.

Hold on Mr pessimist. This statement sounds a bit negative. Siouxboys doesn’t appreciate any sort of discourse or negativity. Just happy things. Any negativity will not be tolerated. Just ask him. I sure he will comment soon enough tho. * I do agree with your post

Agreed

Dude. You will never get it. have to admit tho …”you’re a funny guy “.

Sarcasm. No sh&$ Sherlock. There is no way to spin his defending bubba. Players see it. Fans see it. You and a few others on here are blinded that we have a saban. ( sarcasm) Bubba is not head coach material. Bubba can’t be defended anymore . Yet you defend any and every opposition angle. Why defend average so hard ?? You are simply missing the point. Try and back up your big mouth with any kind of stat , fact or reason why he should continue to be head coach.. I and others have laid stats and reasons why he isn’t coach worthy on this site. You on the other hand are constantly telling people they are missing the point. Give me something to ponder.

You think und is the only team that loses players to transfers Cmon man.

Hurts was the starter 2016 and 2017. That’s not a backup. As I stated ….he transferred because Tua was out performing him.

Hurts was no backup. Wow