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UND Fighting Hawks Versus SDSU Saturday November 22nd
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The committee won’t take 6 from the valley. Have to think the season is over. Und is not playoff worthy anyways. Way ton many flaws. If they are to make it in the bracket…..it would be a waste of time as they would lose by a couple points. Their offense has gone from above average to one of the bottom feeders in the fcs. Jerry has been brutal aging with the play calling. Und has lost two consecutive home games. Not good. This sdsu team lost at home to Indiana st two weeks ago as well as snapping their 4 game losing streak in the alerus. I mentioned couple weeks ago they are not a top 25 team and they proved it today -
UND Fighting Hawks Versus SDSU Saturday November 22nd
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If und had an offense they would be playoff worthy. -
UND Fighting Hawks Versus SDSU Saturday November 22nd
Longtime fan replied to Und Princess's topic in Football
The offense is not playoff caliber -
UND Fighting Hawks Versus SDSU Saturday November 22nd
Longtime fan replied to Und Princess's topic in Football
Exactly. I’m going to realistically say 6509-7000 today but when adding season tickets holders it will be 10500. -
UND Fighting Hawks Versus SDSU Saturday November 22nd
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Chase looks like he will be playing. -
UND Fighting Hawks Versus SDSU Saturday November 22nd
Longtime fan replied to Und Princess's topic in Football
Agreed. Just can’t see the committee taking 6 teams. As it stands sdsu and und have very similar resumes. I would say sdsu is slightly better. They have the (current) best fcs win in beating Montana st. Plus they beat sac st ,Drake and Youngstown. Thats four teams that should be in the playoffs. Und has Youngstown. SDSU lost to Ndsu, SD, ill st and Indiana st (ouch!!). Und lost to Montana, ndsu, sd and Kansas st. I know people are infatuated with that und “only “ lost by itsy bitsy little bit. They lost! The only thing that matters is W-l. Not how little you win or lose by. The Indiana st loss for sdsu is bad !! That equals out the Montana st game imo but, when healthy, they have beaten three other teams that have playoff potential. Tomorrow’s game is the 5th and deciding team for the Mvfc. Go sioux! -
Of course it’s hypothetical. I’m asking at what point in his logic does losing close games start to be irrelevant ? No team should ever be proud of losing close games. Sorry! I might in the minority but losing is losing. Period Like I mentioned. The FCS is so weak the committee has to pick 24 teams. Plenty of average or below average. Also I expect the Sioux to win but if they don’t … well then they don’t belong.
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You schedule games to win regardless of how tough they are. The reward to playing tough games is proving you belong and winning. At what point in your logic is a team not qualified? Say an fbs team was 6-6 and lost all six by five or less to all top 10 teams. Close in score but definitely not boat raced. Should they be qualified for the fbs playoff bracket ? Would that be rewarding? it’s simple. You need to win
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On the flip side. As of right now UND has only one victory against a potential playoff bound team…Youngstown. SIU is an ok win but they most likely end 6-6. The other five victories have a combined opponent record of 9-46. Overall UND has five extremely weak wins, one average win and one decent win. Not sure losing close games to quality opponents should be a qualifier to get a team into playoffs imo. Winning those games is. UNDs resume overall is average like many other teams I agree with a few others here ….the winner of this saturdays game is in and the loser stays home. I can’t see the committee taking more than 5 MVFC team. Ndsu, SD, Illinois st , Youngstown and either und or sdsu. Considering how ridiculously weak the fcs is …the committee will have to dig deep and scrape together 24 teams. The committee might use the “how good are you at losing your games” as criteria? I don’t think anyone can argue that UND wins at the “best loses” 😳…..so there’s that UND needs to clean up two phases of their game starting now!! If they can’t they don’t deserve to be in the playoffs. If they can …they could make a run. An absolute must win Saturday imo. A much improved Und team should be victor
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Football is a team sport and consists of three phases. Offense, defense and special teams Unds defense has been lights out this year. One of the best in the FCS. They haven’t given up a single 20 point game in the MVFC games and haven’t allowed a 400 yard game in conference play including four straight games of under 300 yards ( 221, 270, 268, 252). That’s impressive in the way the game is played nowadays. Fantastic turnaround from years past. Although Injuries are adding they have been a very composed, focused and hungry unit. Hats off to the D. UNDs offense on the other hand is in disarray. OC doesn’t seem capable of running a D1 offense and Jerry has been below average the last 3 games. Sawyer is about the only offensive player capable of making plays. Hard to win games and score points when you rely on one guy and he is not the qb. The first 8 games of the year when the offense was playing decent UND outscored its opponents 191-40 (24.9-5.0) in the first half. The last 3 games ….21-31 ( 7.0- 10.3 ) 7 points at the half of all three games. Absolutely horrible ! It’s a team sport and the offense isn’t getting it done. Looking at the four losses the offense had a chance to win it in the end but failed. They played decent in the first 3 qtrs and failed in the 4th. They have the talent on the offensive side to be much better than what they’re showing. Can it be corrected ? I guess UND is where a kicker goes to become an untrusted kicker. Most of their recruits had really good accolades. That puts Schmidt in a bad spot in close/ competitive games. Doesn’t trust his kicker and now can’t trust his offense. Flip a coin and roll with it I guess. Both options make me nervous……couldn’t imagine being the HC for those calls. Their D can carry this team only so far . At some point the offense and special teams has to step up and become D1 level. It’s a team effort and currently it’s one sided. If UND makes the playoffs the offense is going to have to make a significant jump in production for und move on to the next rounds or it could be an early exit once again.
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UNDs defense has been lights out this year! Haven’t given up 20 points in a single game in the Mvfc and only two all year…..Montana and K st. A ton of seniors on that side. Major upgrade from the last 10 years Offense has had small moments vs the decent defensive teams but the play calling is atrocious. Even when they beat up on the junk teams there were a lot of head scratching calls. Add to that….Jerry and the offense have been brutal in final drive moments. Everyone holds their breathe with anything special teams They are 6-4 with a shot at 8-4. At 8-4 they are in the playoffs. Lose to sdsu ….no playoffs imo at 7-5. Dependent on how other teams finish the last weeks of course. Seeding is long gone … as is a first round bye. If this years Ndsu team is the pinnacle team it just shows how weak the fcs is and yet und is 6-4 😡😡 I could give a rats ass how close und has come to winning the four losses and being undefeated. They didn’t win and are 6-4. Why would this change if they are to make the playoffs ? What would they do differently to win the close games vs “better “ competition? Because they have failed in four games so far this year. That will change if they were to make the playoffs ?? Highly highly unlikely The trajectory of the program is on the upside. With a few coaching changes maybe next year they can take the next step
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Ndsu is very beatable. Youngstown lost to them by 8 last week (had many chances ) and und by 5 this week. Indiana st was controlling the 1st half of their game three weeks ago until a two hour delay. Ndsu controlled after that. Thought their qb looked better in highlights. He’s not that impressive. His running skills are more pronounced because of his size/speed. Decent moves but he simply is bigger than most defensive guys at this level. His qb skills tho?? He locks in on #1 and just gives a hurl the direction of the wr in hopes he completes it. Think he would make a better rb. They really don’t have any decent rb it looks like. Decent OL. Their D played fairly well. But unds Offense had a lot to do with that. If they didn’t have home field advantage through out the playoffs I could see them losing out in the quarterfinals. But they have home field. I can’t pinpoint one thing that is truly dominant about Ndsu . Not impressed
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I mean maybe the committee is partial to how a team doesnt win ?
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UNDs 6 victories this year 1-9 Portland st 1-9 valpo 3-7 N Iowa 6-4 SIU 6-4 Youngstown st 3-7 Indiana st 20-40 (.500)combined record. As of right now …und has two decent wins. The other four wins come against 8-32 (.250) combined record teams The resume just isn’t there. Two decent wins (so far) against four losses is not considered a top 25 team imo
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Possibly. But UND hasn’t shown the ability to win the big games. They have two wins over .500 clubs. The rest of their wins are not impressive in measure. With a combination of bad offensive play calling all year, bad special teams play and the way Jerry has failed in the potential game winning drives spells not a top 25 team. The red zone offense has been bad as they rank 75 out of 124 teams. Can’t trust a kicker. Kickoff and kickoff return groups are shaky. 2-3 record on road trips is not top 25 material . Now Jerry has thrown 5 INTs in the last two games. Too many offsets to be considered a top 25 team. The defense is playing like a top 25 team …that’s about it.
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I know a lot. Four loss teams are not deserving of top 25 status. As bad as the fcs is no way a four loss team should make the playoffs . What makes you think they are deserving ?? How close they lose ? Winning is what matters and und can’t win the big games.
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Same ol same ol. Und is good enough to compete. Not good enough to win the big games. 4 losses with 5 losses possible if they lose to sdsu. Not sure about playoffs? Two ok wins is their resume. Will that be good enough to garner playoffs ? I’ve been wanting to say for a while about the offensive play calling this year. It’s horrible. A lot of head scratching calls in nearly every game. That includes game clock management. Not good UND is not one of the top teams this year. Always close but close doesn’t cut it. Doesn’t matter who they have lost to or how close they have come to being undefeated ……they currently have 4 losses. Not a top 25 team imo. Top 25 teams frequently win close games. Also. Jerry has been horrendous in the final minutes of these close games. The play calling is one thing during the majority of the game but he has been disastrous in the potential game winning drives. well hopefully next year we can win some big games and take it the next level. See if Schmidt can rally the troops in year two Special teams have been and still are a nightmare. lastly. The D has been incredible this year. Light years better than any bubba led teams. Refreshing and fun.
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Too much piss yellow here. 😡
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Nice !! 👍 Maybe we tear down that ridiculous movie theatre rope today on the south end and make the south end great again!
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The best part was definitely jawing with the opposing players. Can’t recall the year…maybe around 2006?…Nebraska Omaha was here. They had some great teams around that time and played und very tough. Great matchups . Well I picked my victim early. Their safety. He cocked off early with a hit and that was I needed. I rode that $&@! all day long. Every time the play was on our side of the field I was on him. Finally he turned around and start jawwing back. I know once they engage you can’t let up. It wasn’t long and we had nearly the entire south end on him. He was out of his game. He was fully engaged with us and not the game. Perfect ! Great times on the catwalk Wished they open up the catwalk for tomorrow’s game. Ndsu needs to be ridden all day long . Relentlessly! Go Sioux !
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Once they took away the catwalk…. the atmosphere dropped significantly. The hardcore ass$&@@s like me now have to coexist with the bleacher people. Not fun and quite boring. Majority of them are only there because they have nothing better to do. They don’t want disruption. They come to games for food, candy, drinks, selfies, tik tok moments…etc. Not interested in being loud, standing or talking football . A collaboration of wet blankets disguised as und football fans. So frustrating seeing the rail 7/8 empty and quiet. The groups of people that stood on the catwalk were there for opponent distraction, game talk and most importantly ….being the 12th man. We were loud and proud. Just an all around ridiculous idea that someone had to pocket some green. With that said. I will be there tomorrow being as loud as I can be with hopefully little feedback. Go Sioux !!
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Und needs the victory for playoff clarity .. just like usd did last week. Und is at home while being the underdog….just like usd . The unexpected “things” have to happen just like the usd game Every team is beatable. Dont let the piss yellow team fans tell you different . Very rarely does a team go undefeated the entire season. This is the game UND has to play clean and sound unlike last week. Contain, contain, contain their qb. Big guy that is fast. Haven’t seen them play just some highlight's but he will be tough as he gets time to read the covers or take off. He looks more comfortable when being pressured as he can use his main weapon …his feet. Home game. Und is in playoff mode. Crowd noise ! Side question. Haven’t heard or read anything but anyone know if kaminski is alright ? He took two big shots the last drive that looked like he couldn’t shake off. He maintained his slouch too long . Again. I have no clue he was truly injured or just tired but hope he’s good to go.. und needs him Go Sioux !
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Yeah sdsu going to lose to Indiana st now. SDSU is not good. But never know if Mason comes back
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Bad game but I posted that i was unsure of this game. I know many here posted a blowout. Not sure the reasoning or factor is that decision? Und hasn’t proven anything yet. Playing better yes. But it’s not like they’re the #1 team or a team that has continued success year after year. I was expecting a victory but a tough single digit victory. SD isn’t a crap team . Und is better ….but und is not dominant. Playing a mvfc team that needs to win and …in their house….not easy. Unfortunately to beat Ndsu it will take an absolute perfect game. UNd hasn’t played a perfect game yet. sdsu will be tough ….50/50 chance. If they lose that one they will be sitting at 7-5 …..again !!! They would end the season with only two ok wins….Youngstown and S Illinois. Not the best resume.
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Couldn’t agree more about the quality of teams at this level. I’ve been saying for a decade how weak the fcs is. Yet ever year it gets weaker as more of the good teams move up. The fcs is essentially D2. I also mentioned years ago about the fcs playoff system because of how weak the teams are. Why have a 24 team playoff bracket and why qualifiers ? The pioneer league is d3/ naia material yet they’re guaranteed a spot in the bracket?? Laughable. Nowadays ..there will never be a time that a team outside the top 8 seeded wins the championship. Make it a 8 team bracket. That’s about 4 too many but it’s reasonable.