The Sicatoka

I'd guess your hockey numbers are right there. But how much did the Fighting Sioux Club, a body outside of UND Athletics reporting-wise, make? Those numbers don't get reported directly with the ones you quote (because they aren't UND Athletics). But the bigger question is this: Why are you arguing about how much money hockey makes for UND when it is clear that UND Hockey alone generates more revenue than all of Bison Athletics? The $4.8MM number you will even go with is roughly 3/4 NDSU's entire athletics budget! Food for thought: 2002-2003 Academic Year NCAA Total Attendance Numbers (may be differences in number of home games): School MBB FB WBB Hockey Sub-total UND: 47,924 56,930 38,497 256,591 399,942 NDSU 48,770 63,721 44,885 000,000 157,376 It takes money to play; money comes in through the gate first.

From the GF Herald: (Ryan) Potulny on being at Minnesota: "The atmosphere is almost like it is at games at UND, where the fans are crazy about hockey." Gopher fans: Almost.

NDSU folded hockey back then after that. In the 1980s NDSU started a (sucessful) club program ... and folded that too.

You're figuring just ticket sales. Did you forget that to have four seats in the lower bowl of REA you have to join the Fighting Sioux club at the Coaches Club level ($1100 per year)? Four in the lower at REA: $1100 FSC membership $345 $345 $345 * 2/3 (Coaches club discount) $345 * 2/3 (Coaches club discount) At that, the per seat price for over half the lower bowl jumps to $562.50. You have to be a FSC member for most of the upper also, but not at the $1100 level, but there is no "club level" seat price discount up there either. UND hockey is the UND Athletics cash-cow. Alternatively, imagine trying to fund a football program with just one home gate.

Remember: Profits of Ralph Engelstad Arena end up going back to UND Athletics. Ticket sales Concessions The Arena Pro Shop

I see them as mutually exclusive: "smack board" or "having a life." Sioux fans don't have smack boards.

... Duluth, Omaha ... All are "cash cow"-ing (or at least holding their own fiscally) for their schools. Not many specific programs can say they pay their own way at the gate (meaning UND hockey or Minnesota mens basketball for examples).

Story on Rory Manke that also mentions Ross Brennan and Shad Carney have returned. Getting Brennan back helps the defensive line right now. Getting Carney back replaces Joe Wilson (and who knows, maybe more).

Story on Rory Manke mentioning Ross Brennan and Shad Carney.

Jordan Parise article in the GF Herald.

Indubitably.

Did you ever bolt from law enforcement at a traffic stop?

Be nice. You don't know any of that. In an unrelated note, from WDAY-AM Radio (Voice of the Bison):

Off-season? We go from an amazing run to the DII National Championship football game straight into a #1 DI college hockey ranking. There is no "off-season" for UND fans. It's all good.

They remember Montana. They forget UC-Davis 23, NDSU 14 (in the FargoDome no less). They forget UND 28, NDSU 21.

Yet you're way over here. You contradict yourself.

Bigger? Enrollment-wise? No. Division I National Championships-wise? No. Ego-wise? No comment.

Some words on Rory Manke from the Fargo Forum's Prep All-Stars.

I don't see where I said "worthless." I just pointed out that everything isn't rosy in their world either.

And here I thought life was wine and roses in the land of DIAA, especially the Big Sky Conference.

This site is reporting it. Remember, UND can not say anything about a recruit until they have a signed letter of intent from them.

FieldTurf?