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You missed two other good numbers in that 2004 EADA data. (I figured out your source.) The "total revenue of all mens sports except BB and FB" at UND was $461,047 (where the same category at NDSU was $372,581). Combine that positive revenue with the losses in MBB and FB and UND mens athletics were still in the black. (NDSU MBB, FB, else, went red, redder, reddest.) More interesting is that womens BB at UND was $24,333 and at NDSU was $87,969.

Another interesting line from the story:

With success comes attention. With attention comes the scouts with money. DU has just really raised the level of attention upon itself (2004, 2005). What comes next is inevitable. The Gophers denied it until Taffe, and Martin, and Vanek. It comes with success. It's a package deal. Don't be surprised by it.

Fabian has pulled a 4.00 semester in the past. He'd be my guess for one of them.

The team only has 3 seniors: Greene, Prpich, Marvin. Finley appears to be Greene's replacement. (I say that because I expect Greene to sign with Edmonton before fall semester begins.) VandeVelde fills Prpich's spot. Marto fills Marvin's spot. Any recruiting now most likely signals that early departures (summer of 2006) are in store. Prime candidates? Smaby. Stafford. Zajac.

UND mens hockey had TWO 4.00 GPAs in spring semester. http://www.fightingsioux.com/sports/news/r...RELEASE_ID=3951 Applause to those two players.

Touche.

"Who's in the best shape?" Lance Armstrong.

Vaht? You mean GF/EGF shouldn't strive to be another little Twin Cities? You're right: I'd rather see GF develop its own personality and niche also. Who wants all the same everywhere. As far as traffic: The roads in Fargo could probably hold the traffic for a few more years, it's just that nobody in Fargo, OK, North Dakotans in general (and Minnesotans are no better), knows how to merge onto an interstate highway.

Downtown GF pre- or post- 1997? Post. That's not even a question. Downtown EGF pre- or post- 1997? Pre. I miss (old) Whitey's, The Bridge, and The Antique. In Fargo, drive from 45th at I-94 up to 13th Ave, east to 42nd St, south to 17th Ave, and back west to 45th and tell me there's anything but chain restaurants, strip malls, a mall, and big box stores. (It's the same in GF; so what.) What's lurking in Fargo's future is the lack of a water supply to sustain growth. (See the Water: $2,500,000,000.00 thread.) In terms of that key factor in growth, Grand Forks, thanks to the Red Lake River and a couple other tributaries, has distinct advantage of a larger nominal flow and a better "available water to population" ratio. As far as rating a school by the city it resides in, ever seen Princeton, NJ? What a hole. How about Ithaca, NY, or South Bend or Bloomington or West Lafayette, IN? How about State College, PA, or even College Station, TX? All are smallish and isolated towns with pretty solid schools. The town doesn't make the school.

I could see UND going to DI but I could see UND going DI without a conference only one way: If somehow UND had a big ol' pot of money handed to them by some benefactor or benefactors.

Hidden away in all of this is that someone might actually be using some logic (finally) in the government. - a big northern Air Force Base - a long, unwatched border - a UAV mission - This: http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/n...al/12118841.htm Wouldn't it be handy if DoD (USAF) and the Homeland Defense could come up with some way to watch 900 miles of border?

And people slow down to look at a good car crash or train wreck too.

Geez guys, rent a (chat)room.

Undrafted free agents generally (unless you are Jeff Panzer or the like) sign smaller contracts and have less bargaining power. That's why 7 instead of 9 rounds.

Saint Luke says it all.

I'll take wondering about those two UND projected line items, Administrative Income $152,500 Miscellaneous Income $150,000 as long as someone can tell me if NDSU's Mr. Inniger raised the last $600k he needed to raise by June 30. Remember: The Forum reported on April 17 that he'd only raised $400k of the $1 million he (alone, not TeamMakers dollars) was responsible to raise of NDSU's projected FY05 budget. He needs to raise another $1 million for FY06 according to the same report.

Would this line item from the NDSU FY02 athletic budget (same source) be the same thing as scholarship waivers? (Hint: Yes.) Institutional support $996,000 Search as I will in UND's FY04 budget revenues (on the UND IAC site) I can't find a similar line item to that either.

NDSU's FY02 athletic budget (from the Market Analysis study NDSU had done) included: Appropriated funds $713,000 Those'd be appropriated (by the state legislature) funds. A recent Forum article said NDSU uses those to pay coaches. Search as I will in UND's FY04 budget revenues (on the UND IAC site) I can't find a similar line item. Nine womens hockey scholarships = ~$90k.

How many proof?

Nobody is questioning that. What the key question is (based on that report) is, "Is it enough to cover all of the new expenses?"

I wish there would have been more explanation behind that statement.

From http://www2.ncaa.org/media_and_events/pres...e_Athletics.pdf (That's the report released last week.)

Are we talking about Ed Belfour here? 1987 NCAA Championship (winning goalie) A Cup with the Stars A Gold Medal with Team Canada Plus, A Calder (NHL ROY) A Crozier (NHL's best save percentage during the regular season) A couple of Vezina Trophies (NHL goalie judged to be the best at his position) Four Jennings Awards (NHL goalie for the team with the fewest goals scored against it)