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What I find quite humorous is fans and alumni of schools who did hire outside consultants saying UND should have hired outside consultants when those schools that did hire outside consultants didn't follow the recommendations they paid for! More humorous is that same group of fans pointing out UND's present budgetary status and saying UND can't go in that condition when their very schools did the very same just a few years ago.

Everyone one who has read the Final Report to Kupchella, all of it, including the fiscal sub-committee data and the attachments, raise their hand. Well, I see mine up. I read it and saw a set of simple facts and data. It doesn't all say "go" nor does it all say "stay". I saw issues I hadn't seen before. It was about as unbiased a report as any I'd seen. There was no "tone" to it, positive or negative. For example, I see this random tossing about of "additional $1,000,000.00" being scoffed by some folks as a huge understimate. Guess what: Scoffing is correct! UND's report says so: I read honest assessments of present dollars, possible revenues, areas of strength, areas of weakness. What I read in the report primarily, however, is what I've said all along: Answer either "cost" or "conference" and you have your answer. I expect we'll be receiving our answer shortly.

You learn something new every day: I didn't realize Leighton Broadcasting owned both KCNN-AM and KNOX-AM in Grand Forks. And I didn't realize all of the print media outlets Forum Communications has, nor did I realize that they have more television than radio outlets.

Dude, as I said, read the lax thread. It talks about the scenarios under which lax at UND would make sense. Yeah, it's a 10-page thread, but it's (rarity of rarity on the 'net) more content than flame. PS - UND's report projects $2.5 million for just a 500 seat stadium. I don't see the logic in that at all.

None of those have hockey either. What ever shall UND do? There's a whole lacrosse thread that explores the notion.

This article points to that conclusion. Television isn't going to jump aboard a money-loser.

Congratulations to this year's DI mens lacrosse average attendance leader: Navy. http://www.laxpower.com/laxnews/news.php?story=4070 In that same link you can see that Navy's first round NCAA game got TV, radio, and 'net broadcasts:

Yup. There's just one minor little problem: There's a 15000 per game average attendance requirement to play DI-A football. You'd have to add on to The Alerus Center to hold that many. Then again, other schools have found "creative" ways to duck that. No, wait, hold on, what's it say here on the first page of the Attachements to the Final Report? But still, you have to walk before you run.

Well thank you for that. I assume you did the same for NDSU when they went DI with a previous-year "red" budget. However, I can't decide what's most humorous about this whole thread-rant (from all sides): - UND's already been assigned as going. (CEK may have something to say about that yet.) - People don't want to look at the closest neighbor's athletic budget results to see what things UND might be able to learn from them. - Believing that UND, if going, and after this much study, doesn't have answers to the tough questions that we aren't privy to (yet). All along CEK has come back to "cost" primarily (and "conference" after that). Either LTC Buning is deaf and didn't hear General Kupchella (and will get "demoted" for it), or LTC Buning has some artillery lined up.

What kind of donated "upfront monies" or endowment basis gifts did either of the SUs want as part of their transitions? What'd they actually receive?

I guess I'll believe Rob Bollinger: Aren't you a person that wanted Rob to be the AD? Don't we have to trust him on this?

I don't know. My question is how do you handle that when you need to "roll up" the surface for some other event in the facility? What does someplace like Metrodome do?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't NDSU's athletic budget "red" when they announced a DI move? Red is red, in debt is in debt, right?

Why look at NDSU's budget? If they're doing good things, learn from; if they're doing bad things, don't follow.

We keep hearing about UND's budget. Where's NDSU's? You'd think if all was wine and roses that sucker'd be rolled out there and touted about. Please, someone, show me. UND's data is on the table. Show me so I (an ND taxpayer) can see for myself and compare.

Don't have to. They're in the "Attachements" PDF in the Final Report to Dr. Kupchella, pages 22-25 (of 127).

He wrote his own "death warrant" if it wasn't.

I'd guess every NCAA school's does. The NCAA talks it up great too (and we know by actions it's money first, then athletes, with them). It's the dedication of the school to the athletes' success is what makes it work or not. Either you have administrators and coaches that drive for total success (academic and athletic) like Stanford or like UND, or you have Bob Huggins and Cincinnati. I was happy to see a solid look at "support systems" in the report to Kupchella.

The numbers say you could play lax in The Al. Memorial has more turf space than The Al.

But did you get ... room service ... for your efforts?

That's my take also.

I've rolled it out in front of folks with "nice offices" in various key UND buildings. Others in this thread may offer up more/other info.

Without even knowing, I'm sure you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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