The Sicatoka

A while back, when I heard about the three NDSU football DUIs in a short period of time I started to wonder if where there's smoke there's ... Sorry, couldn't resist. However, along with those three DUIs was this: Read all about it. http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/237652/

Wasn't there an old joke that Wayne didn't know Grant Fuhr is "of color" until the team photo because he never got to that end of the rink to see Grant? PS - When did Wayne or Grant play for UND. This thread is "former players" of UND.

Mentioning "catalyst for social change", where all could that go I wonder. Read on in the link for notions.

Do you have any hamstrings left?

Geez Doc, be careful. You'll pull something if you keep stretching like that. PS - I like my avatar better.

I'm sure most of you have heard the phrase "grade inflation". Well, consider this affiliation inflation. "We're too good to be NAIA, we're NCAA Division II." "We're too good to be NCAA Division II, we're Division I, but we have to make up a sub-category for football and call it FCS." "We're too good for FCS, we're going Division I FBS football." The core of all of this: Greed. Tournament revenues, especially the DI mens BB tournament. But like I've asked for over half a decade already: What happens when the biggest of the bigs, the BCS conferences*, decide they would rather keep all the money rather than share it with the wannabees and pretenders. What happens when the BCS conferences leave the NCAA to form their own alliance and negotiate their own television deals.

Current? No. Another Bison football player implicated? Yes. http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/241145/

Not yet by the Cass County State's Attorney it hasn't. And he had a roommate. And he had teammates. And every dealer has folks he sells to. Who knew what and when did they know it. The State's Attorney won't say "he's been cut loose by Coach Bohl" and be done with this. NDSU folks are going to be very tired of the phrase " ... was an NDSU wide receiver ... " being tied to this. Those all are the sounds of another "oh-crap" loading up.

Never forget the "atta-boy/oh-crap" rule: Just one "oh-crap" wipes out thousands of "atta-boys". Volleyball, basketball, and now softball, got you some atta-boys around the region. Thanks to Schultenover, your marquee sport is now tied to the phrases "dealing marijuana" and "'large quantities' of marijuana" --> Oh-crap. Believe what you will, but this "oh-crap", like every, follows the rule.

It's too bad that the biggest regional NDSU sports story right now is "Schultenover was dealing marijuana". That (Fargo Forum) says, "dealing" folks, not using.

UND's had a long-standing national fan base because of hockey.

Uh, that says "not really" (if they mean the one designed by Ben Brien) and hence my post.

Somebody hurt your feelings. So you must punish all of UND, not just the single source. And here I thought the earth rotated about an axis at the north pole. Silly me.

Because they aren't in the Missouri Valley Conference. They're in the Missouri Valley Football Conference, called the Gateway Football Conference until recently.

Folks: There are two issues here, namely the five-letter S-word, and the logo. The logo by itself is in violation of the NCAA policy. It's an "American Indian mascot". That has to go.

The font (sharp, not block) and the overlapping (obvious and overt, instead of none) would seem to make that new and unique. On a jersey front I'd like to see it alone. I'd like it in the state outline on the shoulder patch. It'd look good up a flag pole too. Get me a good new logo to look at and I'll forget the folks at Spirit Lake and Standing Rock in no time. I'm not sure that's what the masses there want, but it sure seems that's what their tribal councils want.

The question (and I'm not an intellectual property attorney) would be this: Is the new interlocked logo distinct enough that it is a new and unique entity and thus wouldn't have the need for extra words by it.

Look up the state motto of Minnesota and then ask if that's a good moniker.

If you have the interlocking ND you have to have North Dakota with it. Per http://www.universityrelations.und.edu/web...northdakota.pdf I believe that's why the 2008-09 hockey shoulder patch had the five-letter S-word on it.

If it has no impact, why do you bother?

I can't let you play this one both ways: You can't claim this impacts the Sioux people's culture (name does harm to Sioux people is claim) and yet claim it shouldn't have been put to a vote. Pick one and stick to it please.

I can get away with this because I've said it before: If a program isn't self-supporting fiscally it shouldn't exist at a public academic institution (college or high school). New football helmet or new math textbooks should never be an either/or question. Commence hatin' on me at will.

OK octo, you're saying the interlocked ND on the football helmets. That works as a logo. But is that a "transition to a new nickname and logo"? I'm worried that some NCAA legal word-weasel will claim even that is retroactively associated with "Sioux" and back on the NCAA 'naughty' list goes UND. Am I fretting too much? Maybe, but we're down the rabbit hole and who knows how things work here.

Folks that believe "no nickname" is the way to go, I have a question for you. How are you going to reconcile that with the settlement agreement, page 5, section 2d: Specifically, I'll maybe buy into the argument that "no nickname" is a nickname. However, how in the world do you claim no logo is a logo? Are you going to put a little "TM" symbol in the bottom left corner of a blank sheet of paper and call that your logo? Portrait or landscape? PS - Apologies to "Goon" for quoting him from another thread, but his was a good post to use to represent the point of view.

What can be done with that logo is covered by the NCAA/State of ND agreement, page 8, item j. Don't think that some attorney didn't think of that before you.