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Goon, on Sep 1 2008, 11:32 PM, said:
You're Kidding right? You have heard of Annika, Natalie Gulbis and Paula Creamer right?
and Se Ri Pak, Hee-Won Han, Mi Hyun Kim...
Media Stories on the Sioux Name For reference / interest
#2801
Posted 03 September 2008 - 11:05 AM
and Se Ri Pak, Hee-Won Han, Mi Hyun Kim...
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#2802
Posted 03 September 2008 - 12:01 PM
Sioux-cia, on Sep 3 2008, 11:05 AM, said:
and Se Ri Pak, Hee-Won Han, Mi Hyun Kim...
Not to mention the # 1 golfer on the tour today, Lorena Ochoa (who spoke out on the issue recently).
Its JMHO, but the LPGA isn't dumb-and they're in business to make money. If they weren't hearing from sponsors, people who patronize the pro-ams, etc. then they wouldn't have started down this path. Apparently a lot of people were shying away from events where they couldn't interact with the golfers. IMHO, if you went to say, China and wanted to start a one-on-one advertising campaign, you'd really need someone who could speak the language. This is no different as far as I'm concerned.
Its JMHO, but the LPGA isn't dumb-and they're in business to make money. If they weren't hearing from sponsors, people who patronize the pro-ams, etc. then they wouldn't have started down this path. Apparently a lot of people were shying away from events where they couldn't interact with the golfers. IMHO, if you went to say, China and wanted to start a one-on-one advertising campaign, you'd really need someone who could speak the language. This is no different as far as I'm concerned.
#2803
Posted 03 September 2008 - 12:20 PM
Sioux-cia, on Sep 3 2008, 11:05 AM, said:
and Se Ri Pak, Hee-Won Han, Mi Hyun Kim...
I would have noted those as well but I couldn't spell their names. Don't forget Birdie Kim. The Woman changed her name, it is pretty cool...
#2804
Posted 03 September 2008 - 03:09 PM
Chief Illiniwek Supporter, on Sep 3 2008, 11:01 AM, said:
IMHO, if you went to say, China and wanted to start a one-on-one advertising campaign, you'd really need someone who could speak the language. This is no different as far as I'm concerned.
Not quite true. American 'celebrities' routinely are contracted to advertise products in countries where English is not the language of choice. I don't believe they are required to speak the language of the country.
#2805
Posted 03 September 2008 - 04:10 PM
Sioux-cia, on Sep 3 2008, 03:09 PM, said:
Not quite true. American 'celebrities' routinely are contracted to advertise products in countries where English is not the language of choice. I don't believe they are required to speak the language of the country.
Right, but AFAIK most of the time the advertisments are filmed using a dubbed voice, or the American celebrity is coached up enough to stumble thru in something approaching an understandable version of the native language.
That's why I used the term "one on one". Putting Paris Hilton out on the street to talk with some Japanese industrialists will not result in a furthering of international relations.
And IMHO that's what those pro-ams, dinners, etc. for the LPGA tour events are most like; individual face to face meetings with people rather than a mass media advertisement.
Further, the LPGA is a collection of "companies" if you will: right now I'm sure some sponsors are concerned about the language issue, and others don't care. When the number on one side got to be big enough, the commissioner stepped in. I'm guessing some sponsors weren't in favor of the latest edict. Nothing will prevent Kraft foods from featuring Se Re Pak in an advertisement if they choose. Neither is Wheaties prevented from putting anyone they want on their box.
That's why I used the term "one on one". Putting Paris Hilton out on the street to talk with some Japanese industrialists will not result in a furthering of international relations.
And IMHO that's what those pro-ams, dinners, etc. for the LPGA tour events are most like; individual face to face meetings with people rather than a mass media advertisement.Further, the LPGA is a collection of "companies" if you will: right now I'm sure some sponsors are concerned about the language issue, and others don't care. When the number on one side got to be big enough, the commissioner stepped in. I'm guessing some sponsors weren't in favor of the latest edict. Nothing will prevent Kraft foods from featuring Se Re Pak in an advertisement if they choose. Neither is Wheaties prevented from putting anyone they want on their box.
I guess everyone has a drum to beat...
#2809
Posted 08 September 2008 - 09:43 AM
I think this is a 'tongue in cheek' piece. 
#2810
Posted 08 September 2008 - 10:22 AM
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He is not a sports mascot, he is not a marketing gimmick to make wealthy people richer. The buffalo is above today’s corrupt commercial world.
Err, tell that to the outfit in Wyoming where I order bison steaks, etc.
#2811
Posted 08 September 2008 - 11:29 AM
Sioux-cia, on Sep 8 2008, 09:43 AM, said:
I think this is a 'tongue in cheek' piece.
That is what I hope is the case for most of the Ed-Op pieces I read in the Forum, but sadly the needle on the Stupidity guage is almost always pointed towards "Full"!
#2812
Posted 08 September 2008 - 12:04 PM
[quote name='SiouxMD' post='348756' date='Sep 8 2008, 08:35 AM']A new [url="http://www.in-forum.com/Sports/articles/214099"]twist[/url]?[/quote]
I am reminded of the SIU Salukis. The Saluki dog was sacred to the ancient Egyptians. Yet, they're never lumped in with the offending nicknames. Ironically, former US Senator Paul Simon hated Chief Illiniwek, publically advocating his elimination very early on in the game: yet never a word about his alma mater (and later in life, his employer), namely SIU.
Everyone has an ax to grind. I number of years ago I saw a letter to some official from a six year old girl, and it went something like this:
Off this subject: The LPGA has modified its English-only policy today. Heavier on education, lighter on penalties.
Everyone has an ax to grind. I number of years ago I saw a letter to some official from a six year old girl, and it went something like this:
[quote]Dear Governor XXX: Can you please change the name of Dumbarton Road? Signed, Mary Barton.[/quote]
Off this subject: The LPGA has modified its English-only policy today. Heavier on education, lighter on penalties.
#2813
Posted 08 September 2008 - 02:02 PM
Oxbow6, on Sep 8 2008, 09:29 AM, said:
That is what I hope is the case for most of the Ed-Op pieces I read in the Forum, but sadly the needle on the Stupidity guage is almost always pointed towards "Full"!
#2814
Posted 08 September 2008 - 05:04 PM
82SiouxGuy, on Sep 8 2008, 09:34 AM, said:
I wondered how long it would take for that to happen.
Heck, I predicted it when the NCAA rolled out its 'policy' in 2005.
And even if this person is doing satire, the next one won't be.
It's a great can of worms Myles has opened.
#2815
Posted 08 September 2008 - 05:19 PM
In the end we'll end up with non-offensive names such as UND Wheat
#2816
Posted 08 September 2008 - 05:29 PM
GeauxSioux, on Sep 8 2008, 06:19 PM, said:
In the end we'll end up with non-offensive names such as UND Wheat
How about UND Wheat Kings?
#2817
Posted 08 September 2008 - 08:22 PM
Goon, on Sep 8 2008, 03:29 PM, said:
How about UND Wheat Kings?
UND Sugar
#2818
Posted 08 September 2008 - 08:51 PM
Goon, on Sep 8 2008, 05:29 PM, said:
How about UND Wheat Kings?
Kings would be offensive to women.
Beets are just plain offensive (smelling).
#2819
Posted 10 September 2008 - 09:59 AM
SiouxMD, on Sep 8 2008, 08:35 AM, said:
A new twist?
An article about this letter:
Grand Forks Herald
So, do all people that send letters to the editor get thorough background checks? Or just certain ones?
#2820
Posted 10 September 2008 - 11:09 AM
siouxjoy, on Sep 10 2008, 07:59 AM, said:
An article about this letter:
Grand Forks Herald
Grand Forks Herald
Reading this while drinking coffee, not a good idea. This 'rebuttal' has to be a joke! I was laughing so hard I choked! Good thing my dog knows the Heimlich manuver!
