THETRIOUXPER Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I didn't know Kozek was playing hurt, but that explains his stride. Actually I have seen Sioux Falls play before and Malone was an average forward on his own team. He isn't better than Moreland (FM Jets), He isn't better than Lamaroux (Tri-city), He isn't better than Fisher (Sioux falls). Well, I've talked to some "NHL people" and they painted a brighter picture of Malone than you have. I think I'll take their word over yours any day. As far as Kozek goes, not only is he a world class athlete, but he is a world class person as well (as are his folks.) Something livestoplaywithhimself will never be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux-per Villain Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 If EJ and AG are gone, this will be a substantial blow for the Gopher D. Along with Vannelli, they accounted for over 100 ponts last year. The returnees (Peltier, Fischer, Schack and Anderson) has less than 40 points between them. Will they be able to get the puck out their zone next year? Fairchild is talented but he is no EJ/AG (projected CSS 5th round pick). They have another top notch recruiting class coming in with immediate impact players (Hoeffel, White) and I doubt AG is going anywhere. He recently had shoulder surgery and will be rehabing this summer. I suspect he'll lbe back at MN and lead the WCHA in defense scoring. I would agree that if they lose KO and EJ, they will not have the leadership/experience that a team needs to go deep in the playoffs but the skill level on that team will be high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 They have another top notch recruiting class coming in with immediate impact players (Hoeffel, White) and I doubt AG is going anywhere. He recently had shoulder surgery and will be rehabing this summer. I suspect he'll lbe back at MN and lead the WCHA in defense scoring. I would agree that if they lose KO and EJ, they will not have the leadership/experience that a team needs to go deep in the playoffs but the skill level on that team will be high. if AG comes back he can take 2nd in WCHA scoring, i think chorney is ready to be top dawg but if he does its great for the league to have these players back!! i see EJ and KO gonzoooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux_Hab-it Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Until today I didn't believe any of the previous posts regarding an early departure by Brian Lee, now I am not so sure. A local newspaper, the Ottawa Citizen, has reported that Ottawa may be looking to move Wade Redden's big salary following the 2007 playoffs. Apparently Edmonton is the likely destination which is the closest NHL franchise with respect to his hometown of Lloydminister. In support of this theory; Craig McTavish and Charlie Huddy have been taking in the games in the current Senators/Penguins series. Given that Ottawa's number one D pairing has become Volchenkov and Phillips, IMHO this story is believable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Until today I didn't believe any of the previous posts regarding an early departure by Brian Lee, now I am not so sure. A local newspaper, the Ottawa Citizen, has reported that Ottawa may be looking to move Wade Redden's big salary following the 2007 playoffs. Apparently Edmonton is the likely destination which is the closest NHL franchise with respect to his hometown of Lloydminister. In support of this theory; Craig McTavish and Charlie Huddy have been taking in the games in the current Senators/Penguins series. Given that Ottawa's number one D pairing has become Volchenkov and Phillips, IMHO this story is believable. Perhaps. Redden is a big enough name that Ottawa would probably want a player and a draft pick or two to go with it. Ottawa is pretty stacked at Forward. So, what do you all think of this trade: Edmonton Gets: Wade Redden 2007 6th Round Pick Ottawa Gets: Matt Greene (D) 2007 2nd Round Pick 2008 2nd Round Pick (conditional) Of course, I'm using my imagination to dream up Ottawa's needs and what Edmonton would be willing to part with as far as draft picks. And I threw in the 6th rounder for giggles. For all I know it will be Wade Redden for a 2nd or 3rd Rd pick and cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA Hockey Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I didn't know Kozek was playing hurt, but that explains his stride. Actually I have seen Sioux Falls play before and Malone was an average forward on his own team. He isn't better than Moreland (FM Jets), He isn't better than Lamaroux (Tri-city), He isn't better than Fisher (Sioux falls). Great comparisons. Moreland is a 21 year old playing in a secondary league to the USHL. Fisher is 20 and Lamaroux is 19. The point is is they are all older than Malone and have more experience playing juniors. If either of the three were just as good if not better, than why didn't we recruit them? All three would've came here if they had the opportunity. I also think the NHL would beg to differ on talent, since none of them were drafted and Malone will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lives-to-play-hockey-06 Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Eventually I will stop responding to the dumb a$$, but until I learn. He is a 17 year old playing on a bad team in a league dominated by 19 and 20 year olds. As a result he doesn't play on a top line or PP much. When I was in High School I was a better player than 5 year old Jonathon Toews... Well actually probably not... You obviously know nothing about the USHL there are very few 20 with most players are 1988 birthdays meaning they could have only been 18 at the begining of the season. There are also alot more 1989 birthdays than 1987 birthdays. I thought you were agreeing with me when you said this: "He is on a bad team... As a result he doesn't play on a top line or PP much." So hes not even on the top line of a in your opinion "bad" USHL team? But some guy on here says Malone could be a first liner next year for a "Good" division one college team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lives-to-play-hockey-06 Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Well, I've talked to some "NHL people" and they painted a brighter picture of Malone than you have. I think I'll take their word over yours any day. As far as Kozek goes, not only is he a world class athlete, but he is a world class person as well (as are his folks.) Something livestoplaywithhimself will never be. Whats next TRIOUXPER are you going to try convince us that you sold his parents a radiator flush too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 You obviously know nothing about the USHL there are very few 20 with most players are 1988 birthdays meaning they could have only been 18 at the begining of the season. There are also alot more 1989 birthdays than 1987 birthdays. I thought you were agreeing with me when you said this: "He is on a bad team... As a result he doesn't play on a top line or PP much." So hes not even on the top line of a in your opinion "bad" USHL team? But some guy on here says Malone could be a first liner next year for a "Good" division one college team? yeah, you should take over recruiting as hak knows nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 if AG comes back he can take 2nd in WCHA scoring, i think chorney is ready to be top dawg but if he does its great for the league to have these players back!! i see EJ and KO gonzoooo I do too, the tea leaves are pointing the direction of both being gone. Apparently the Islanders are strapped for cash and are going to push KO hard to sign. The kid is a bull and I could see him doing well in the NHL if they keep calling the game the way they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THETRIOUXPER Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Whats next TRIOUXPER are you going to try convince us that you sold his parents a radiator flush too? Sorry to dissapoint, radiator flushes aren't my area of expertise. Speaking of flushes, how about someone flush this turd, right back over to the high school board. That way you can spew your crap where someone might actually think you know something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Sorry to dissapoint, radiator flushes aren't my area of expertise. Speaking of flushes, how about someone flush this turd, right back over to the high school board. That way you can spew your crap where someone might actually think you know something. That was classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 You obviously know nothing about the USHL there are very few 20 with most players are 1988 birthdays meaning they could have only been 18 at the begining of the season. There are also alot more 1989 birthdays than 1987 birthdays. I thought you were agreeing with me when you said this: "He is on a bad team... As a result he doesn't play on a top line or PP much." So hes not even on the top line of a in your opinion "bad" USHL team? But some guy on here says Malone could be a first liner next year for a "Good" division one college team? ... and Matt Moreland isn't playing college hockey. So maybe you're the one that doesn't know anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THETRIOUXPER Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 ... and Matt Moreland isn't playing college hockey. So maybe you're the one that doesn't know anything. Malone is going to come in and be a great player for the sioux, and livestoplaywithhimself is going to look stupid all over again, and his credibility will slide further into the muck. If that is even possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Malone is going to come in and be a great player for the sioux, and livestoplaywithhimself is going to look stupid all over again, and his credibility will slide further into the muck. If that is even possible. While we are on the subject of Malone is this kid related to Ryan Malone that plays for the Pens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxnami Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 You obviously know nothing about the USHL there are very few 20 with most players are 1988 birthdays meaning they could have only been 18 at the begining of the season. There are also alot more 1989 birthdays than 1987 birthdays. I thought you were agreeing with me when you said this: "He is on a bad team... As a result he doesn't play on a top line or PP much." So hes not even on the top line of a in your opinion "bad" USHL team? But some guy on here says Malone could be a first liner next year for a "Good" division one college team? I just can't lay off this fool. I think I have a problem... 17 yo 12 Hansen, Jake Forward 6'1' 182 lbs 15 Malone, Brad Forward 6'1 205 lbs 37 Strang, Max Goaltender 6'1 175 lbs 25 Tropp, Corey Forward 5'10 180 lbs 18 yo 20 Christian, Jordy Forward 5'10 165 lbs 27 Dineen, Nick Forward 5'10 185 lbs 6 Foss, Jeff Defense 6'3 195 lbs 7 Redmond, Zach Defense 6'1 190 lbs 16 Vrolyk, Robbie Forward 5'9 155 lbs 19 yo 3 Bauer, Jake Defense 5'11 207 lbs 13 Drewiske, Jake Forward 5'10 180 lbs 29 Fisher, Drew Forward 6'3 207 lbs 17 Peterson, Erik Forward 5'8 155 lbs 8 Sexton, Dan Forward 5'10 160 lbs 10 Solway, David Forward 5'10 150 lbs 14 Tiesling, Patrick Forward 6'1 195 lbs 9 Zabkowicz, Sam Defense 5'10 157 lbs 21 Grun, David Forward 6'1 190 lbs 11 Hansen, Zach Defense 5'10 165 lbs 28 Huxley, Chris Defense 5'11 200 lbs 20 yo 4 Bickel, Stu Defense 6'3 201 lbs 31 Lundin, Matt Goaltender 6'0 187 lbs 19 Guentzel, Ryan Forward 5'11 170 lbs The top 8 scorers are highlighted. Of the younger players Tropp (MSU) is the leading scorer with 62 pts. While Malone has 33. The key difference is that Tropp plays on the PP alot more and has 23 more PP points. The USHL is a league of older players... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickboy1956 Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 I just can't lay off this fool. I think I have a problem... 17 yo 12 Hansen, Jake Forward 6'1' 182 lbs 15 Malone, Brad Forward 6'1 205 lbs 37 Strang, Max Goaltender 6'1 175 lbs 25 Tropp, Corey Forward 5'10 180 lbs 18 yo 20 Christian, Jordy Forward 5'10 165 lbs 27 Dineen, Nick Forward 5'10 185 lbs 6 Foss, Jeff Defense 6'3 195 lbs 7 Redmond, Zach Defense 6'1 190 lbs 16 Vrolyk, Robbie Forward 5'9 155 lbs 19 yo 3 Bauer, Jake Defense 5'11 207 lbs 13 Drewiske, Jake Forward 5'10 180 lbs 29 Fisher, Drew Forward 6'3 207 lbs 17 Peterson, Erik Forward 5'8 155 lbs 8 Sexton, Dan Forward 5'10 160 lbs 10 Solway, David Forward 5'10 150 lbs 14 Tiesling, Patrick Forward 6'1 195 lbs 9 Zabkowicz, Sam Defense 5'10 157 lbs 21 Grun, David Forward 6'1 190 lbs 11 Hansen, Zach Defense 5'10 165 lbs 28 Huxley, Chris Defense 5'11 200 lbs 20 yo 4 Bickel, Stu Defense 6'3 201 lbs 31 Lundin, Matt Goaltender 6'0 187 lbs 19 Guentzel, Ryan Forward 5'11 170 lbs The top 8 scorers are highlighted. Of the younger players Tropp (MSU) is the leading scorer with 62 pts. While Malone has 33. The key difference is that Tropp plays on the PP alot more and has 23 more PP points. The USHL is a league of older players... Why would you include Foss/Christian in this list - they only played USHL before/after their HS season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxnami Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Why would you include Foss/Christian in this list - they only played USHL before/after their HS season. True, I just took the whole roster. That would actually make the team even older... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stack Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 While we are on the subject of Malone is this kid related to Ryan Malone that plays for the Pens? I believe that Ryan Malone is the older brother so it was a surprise when the younger brother decided to come to UND rather than SCSU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1siouxfan22 Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Not brother, cousin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lives-to-play-hockey-06 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 I just can't lay off this fool. I think I have a problem... 17 yo 12 Hansen, Jake Forward 6'1' 182 lbs 15 Malone, Brad Forward 6'1 205 lbs 37 Strang, Max Goaltender 6'1 175 lbs 25 Tropp, Corey Forward 5'10 180 lbs 18 yo 20 Christian, Jordy Forward 5'10 165 lbs 27 Dineen, Nick Forward 5'10 185 lbs 6 Foss, Jeff Defense 6'3 195 lbs 7 Redmond, Zach Defense 6'1 190 lbs 16 Vrolyk, Robbie Forward 5'9 155 lbs 19 yo 3 Bauer, Jake Defense 5'11 207 lbs 13 Drewiske, Jake Forward 5'10 180 lbs 29 Fisher, Drew Forward 6'3 207 lbs 17 Peterson, Erik Forward 5'8 155 lbs 8 Sexton, Dan Forward 5'10 160 lbs 10 Solway, David Forward 5'10 150 lbs 14 Tiesling, Patrick Forward 6'1 195 lbs 9 Zabkowicz, Sam Defense 5'10 157 lbs 21 Grun, David Forward 6'1 190 lbs 11 Hansen, Zach Defense 5'10 165 lbs 28 Huxley, Chris Defense 5'11 200 lbs 20 yo 4 Bickel, Stu Defense 6'3 201 lbs 31 Lundin, Matt Goaltender 6'0 187 lbs 19 Guentzel, Ryan Forward 5'11 170 lbs The top 8 scorers are highlighted. Of the younger players Tropp (MSU) is the leading scorer with 62 pts. While Malone has 33. The key difference is that Tropp plays on the PP alot more and has 23 more PP points. The USHL is a league of older players... I guess that I'm still a little confused. This arguement started by me saying that malone is over-hyped. Which in your previous posts called his team "bad", and in your same post said that he isn't on the top line or power-play. But yet you still think he will be a good player next year for a good Division 1 team? Could you please explain your logic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxnami Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 I guess that I'm still a little confused. This arguement started by me saying that malone is over-hyped. Which in your previous posts called his team "bad", and in your same post said that he isn't on the top line or power-play. But yet you still think he will be a good player next year for a good Division 1 team? Could you please explain your logic? Not to you, the English language doesn't have small enough words... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jofa17 Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Here is a look at 2006/2007 Games played x 60 min = Max Min Game Time = % on ice Actual Playing Time = Max Min x Game Time(%) Pts per Time = Total Points / Actual Playing Time Rank 2006/2007 Max Game Actual Pts per Rank Player POS YR | GP G A PTS Min Time Time Time Ryan Duncan F SO | 43 31 26 57 2580 40% 1032 0.055 5 T.J. Oshie (STL) F SO | 43 17 35 52 2580 40% 1032 0.050 6 Jonathan Toews(CHI) F SO | 34 18 28 46 2040 40% 816 0.056 4 Robbie Bina D JR | 43 10 22 32 2580 40% 1032 0.031 13 Taylor Chorney (EDM) D SO | 39 8 23 31 2340 40% 936 0.033 12 Chris Porter (CHI) F SR | 43 13 17 30 2580 25% 645 0.047 8 Brian Lee (OTT) D SO | 38 2 24 26 2280 25% 570 0.046 9 Brad Miller F SO | 41 10 14 24 2460 15% 369 0.065 2 Chay Genoway F/D FR | 43 5 14 19 2580 25% 645 0.029 15 Matt Watkins (DAL) F SO | 38 6 11 17 2280 15% 342 0.050 7 Rylan Kaip (ATL) F JR | 38 5 7 12 2280 25% 570 0.021 17 Erik Fabian F SR | 39 5 6 11 2340 25% 585 0.019 20 Andrew Kozek (ATL) F SO | 41 5 6 11 2460 15% 369 0.030 14 Darcy Zajac F FR | 41 8 2 10 2460 10% 246 0.041 10 Ryan Martens F SO | 20 3 6 9 1200 10% 120 0.075 1 Chris VandeVelde (EDM)F FR | 38 3 6 9 2280 10% 228 0.039 11 Joe Finley (WSH) D SO | 41 1 6 7 2460 10% 246 0.028 16 Kyle Radke D JR | 41 2 3 5 2460 10% 246 0.020 19 Scott Foyt D/F SR | 8 1 2 3 480 10% 48 0.063 3 Zach Jones D SO | 42 0 3 3 2520 10% 252 0.012 21 Michael Forney (ATL) F FR | 16 0 2 2 960 10% 96 0.021 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 I guess that I'm still a little confused. This arguement started by me saying that malone is over-hyped. Which in your previous posts called his team "bad", and in your same post said that he isn't on the top line or power-play. But yet you still think he will be a good player next year for a good Division 1 team? Could you please explain your logic? How can we say someone is over hyped before he actually even plays for the Sioux? Seems that we would at least want to give him a couple of seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxnami Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Here is a look at 2006/2007 Games played x 60 min = Max Min Game Time = % on ice Actual Playing Time = Max Min x Game Time(%) Pts per Time = Total Points / Actual Playing Time Rank 2006/2007 Max Game Actual Pts per Rank Player POS YR | GP G A PTS Min Time Time Time Ryan Duncan F SO | 43 31 26 57 2580 40% 1032 0.055 5 T.J. Oshie (STL) F SO | 43 17 35 52 2580 40% 1032 0.050 6 Jonathan Toews(CHI) F SO | 34 18 28 46 2040 40% 816 0.056 4 Robbie Bina D JR | 43 10 22 32 2580 40% 1032 0.031 13 Taylor Chorney (EDM) D SO | 39 8 23 31 2340 40% 936 0.033 12 Chris Porter (CHI) F SR | 43 13 17 30 2580 25% 645 0.047 8 Brian Lee (OTT) D SO | 38 2 24 26 2280 25% 570 0.046 9 Brad Miller F SO | 41 10 14 24 2460 15% 369 0.065 2 Chay Genoway F/D FR | 43 5 14 19 2580 25% 645 0.029 15 Matt Watkins (DAL) F SO | 38 6 11 17 2280 15% 342 0.050 7 Rylan Kaip (ATL) F JR | 38 5 7 12 2280 25% 570 0.021 17 Erik Fabian F SR | 39 5 6 11 2340 25% 585 0.019 20 Andrew Kozek (ATL) F SO | 41 5 6 11 2460 15% 369 0.030 14 Darcy Zajac F FR | 41 8 2 10 2460 10% 246 0.041 10 Ryan Martens F SO | 20 3 6 9 1200 10% 120 0.075 1 Chris VandeVelde (EDM)F FR | 38 3 6 9 2280 10% 228 0.039 11 Joe Finley (WSH) D SO | 41 1 6 7 2460 10% 246 0.028 16 Kyle Radke D JR | 41 2 3 5 2460 10% 246 0.020 19 Scott Foyt D/F SR | 8 1 2 3 480 10% 48 0.063 3 Zach Jones D SO | 42 0 3 3 2520 10% 252 0.012 21 Michael Forney (ATL) F FR | 16 0 2 2 960 10% 96 0.021 18 The 2 that surprisingly really impress is Miller and Martens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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