soohockey15 Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 I think the fact that maybe the west is not as bad as everyone thinks. RR is by far the best team talent wise but BHS is deep and has 4 very good Defenseman. I guess we'll find out tomarrow night Find out what? Quote
GF_siouxfan Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 It must feel good to go on a message board and rip on a kid who is a Mr. Hockey finalist. hey you turd we're not coming on here to say that this kid isnt worthy. Its already been stated before and ill say it again. There are much, much, much more worthy kids that should be finalist. Thats FINAL! YOU WANNA KNOW WHY. CUZ IM A HIGHSCHOOL KID AND I KNOW EVERYTHING!!!! you two turdlets can take your education and shove it. Come on here and insult highschool kids intelligence, when you should be the one checking out your head. What do you expect??? DO YOU KNOW THE TITLE TO THIS TOPIC. U NIMWIT. HIGH SCHOOL HOCKEY!!! Quote
GDM Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 Watch the personal attacks and name-calling. GDM Forums Moderator SiouxSports.com Quote
ND Pride Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 LASTLY.....people predicting on this board, especially the ones that have RR winning 5-0...add an "after the first period" when typing in that absurd score...they'll win by 10 at least What was the final spread in the score for the Red River game on Thursday? Quote
junior24 Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 ND Pride back for the long haul.....no facts this post?.......weird Quote
nodak hockey fanatic Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 bhs 4, north 0 gpr 2, mandan 0 looks like 0 for 2 edit: i think you have to be within a couple of goals to even consider it a correct prediction gfrr 8, century 2... can't give you that one, still off 8 goals south 4, whs 1... your closest one yet, but since you misspelled williston, i can't give this one to you either 0 for 4, tough day bhs v. gpr should be a good game today i don't know what the scores were earlier in the year, but souths soph. goalie they switched to halfway through the season is pretty solid, he will need to be outstanding to keep gfrr off the scoreboard today it should be the two teams everyone thought it would be, but bhs could pull out a win Quote
soohockey15 Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 Well I suppose I was a bit off. But watching that game it seemed like RR squandered numerous chances. 60-10 edge in shots and the score could've been worse. Grafton will need to play better today than they did yesterday to have a chance to win it. It seemed like they gave up a lot of good scoring chances that a better team will capitalize on. Century and Williston are two very bad teams. Rehak is solid defensively but just about average offensively. Players like him are a dime a dozen (in juniors and whatnot). I would take both of RR's D-men over him. Not a knock on him, he just doesn't do a whole lot with the puck when he has it. Red River started off a bit slow but then picked it up. I expect a convincing win over South tonight. For a team that's down 2-0 in the third (Mandan), it sure seemed like there wasn't much of a sense of urgency to win. Their goalie played exceptionally well, however. I thought he turned in the best performance of the day. GPR-BHS will be the best game of the day. I'm thinking Grafton will pick it up tonight, however, and earn their spot for Saturday night. Quote
HockeyForShow Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 My Predictions for Thursday BHS over FN 4-1 GPR over Mandan 6-1 RR over BC 7-1 FS over Williston 4-1 My Predictions for Frdiday Mandan over FN 3-2 Williston over BC 3-2 GPR over BHS 4-1 RR over FS 5-2 Quote
Mr. Blanston Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 mr. blanston... since it is a snowballs chance in hell, we will start with juniors. you give me 25-1 odds (much better than a snowballs chance in hell i would say), and you name the price, and i will take the bet. rehak is anything but average, and if he decides to go that route, he could play right along your east side golden boys in the ushl. rr is very talented and has some great players, that does not mean a great player cannot come out of the west. if you have seen rehak play many times as you claim, then you are just a horrible judge of hockey talent. Alright, 250-10. If this kid is on a USHL roster at this time next year, you win. If he is not, I win. "if you have seen rehak play many times as you claim, then you are just a horrible judge of hockey talent." Have you ever seen a USHL game before? Skill wise, he doesn't stand a chance. I think we had this exact same argument last year when a kid from the west won Mr. Hockey. Predictably, he's had a less than average year in the NAHL and is not currently on track to receiving any looks from D1 schools. On the other hand, 2007's best player by far, (Danny Wurden, Fargo South), is doing very well in the USHL. Wurden is a defenseman in a far more talented league, and Herbel is a forward in the much less talented league. Both players have 10 points thus far. Interesting... Quote
Lives-to-play-hockey-06 Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 My Predictions for Frdiday Mandan over FN 3-2 Williston over BC 3-2 GPR over BHS 4-1 RR over FS 5-2 Mandan over North? Not a Chance. Quote
soohockey15 Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 Although I don't expect South to beat Red River tonight, I believe they will make a game of it. Their sophomore goalie has been incredibly hot ever since taking over the starting job, and I believe both RR/South regular season games were played prior to the Bruins' goalie change (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong about that). Red River should and probably will win tonight, but the same could have been said for the South team that was upset by Red River in the semifinal game three years ago. As Chris Berman likes to say, that is why they play the games. For the sake of the Red River fans, let's hope your players aren't taking South as lightly as you are. Wrong analogy from two years ago. The two teams split the games and they were very closely played. Red River has been the better team twice versus South this year and I expect no different tonight. Quote
ND Sioux123 Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 "There is no reason why he shouldn't be a Mr Hockey finalist." There is a reason why he shouldn't be a Mr. Hockey finalist: there are other players in the state who are much, much more talented. He has a snowball's chance in hell at playing junior A, let alone D1 (yes, I've seen him play several times). Hockey 09 don't look at this as us ripping on a kid who is a Mr. Hockey finalist. We (or at least I) don't have anything against these two players from the WDA. They're average players who work hard for their team, and for that they should be commended. Instead, try to look at this as us ripping on coaches in the West who ignorantly and selfishly vote for kids in their conference instead of the players who are much more qualified for the award. I agree with you. I'm in no way saying that Rehak shouldn't be up for Mr. Hockey. After watching him yesterday he is after all a very good defenseman. What I am trying to say is that there are more skilled people that could be more worthy as far as a candidate for Mr. Hockey. I mean it is pretty obvious that the race is between Ladouceur and Meland, but possibly a better candidate could have been named than a kid with 19 points from the west. When has a defensive defensman ever won the award? I cannot recall someone in recent years that was described as being a defensive defenseman. My only reasoning for why a player from Red River was not named along with Ladouceur and Meland was that maybe the coaches thought those two helped others on the Red River like Schaefer and Galbreath by contributing to their point totals or possibly that Red River shouldn't be allowed to have three candidates because that might be too many for a good team that has the best senior class by far in the state. Who else from the east could you think of besides the seniors on Red River that could possibly be a candidate for Mr. Hockey? There's no one else I can really think of if any that should be! Quote
nodak hockey fanatic Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 consolation bracket... north 5, mandan 1 williston 4, century 1 semifinals... gpr 6, bhs 2 gfrr and south just getting going interesting stat from the nd state tourney, both against century, and i watched both games... ladouceur had one assist and played well defensively for a dominant team that won 8-2... while rehak had a goal and an assist and was a shutdown defenseman all game in a 4-1 victory. take it for what it is... rehak did what he has been doing all season long, but he is from the west, so i am sure he is overrated. Quote
Lives-to-play-hockey-06 Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 consolation bracket... north 5, mandan 1 williston 4, century 1 semifinals... gpr 6, bhs 2 gfrr and south just getting going interesting stat from the nd state tourney, both against century, and i watched both games... ladouceur had one assist and played well defensively for a dominant team that won 8-2... while rehak had a goal and an assist and was a shutdown defenseman all game in a 4-1 victory. take it for what it is... rehak did what he has been doing all season long, but he is from the west, so i am sure he is overrated. Century blows so using them in an argument is worthless. Quote
X2theZ Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 I like the Red River player that got a stick to the face and grabbed his eye like it was cut. Your wearing a mask, Pack it up buddy. Quote
ND Pride Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 ND Pride back for the long haul.....no facts this post?.......weird Sorry about that - no facts this time. I will get to work on that. Watched Grafton and Bismarck as well as Red River and South tonight. Very entertaining games. Quote
soohockey15 Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 Two years ago South won the championship. I was referring to three years ago. South beat Red River twice in the regular season and, if I'm not mistaken, again in the East Region tournament. Red River pulled off the big upset in the semifinal round of the state tournament. Maybe South can return the favor tonight. I certainly wouldn't bet on it, but crazier things have happened. You are mistaken. In the 04-05 season, RR and South split in the Regular season. In the EDC tourney, RR lost to Grafton in the semifinal game and beat North in the play-in game. Red River then beat South 4-2 in the State semifinal. They would then go on to beat Central 3-0 in the championship game. So, yeah, I don't think I'd call it an upset. Quote
TheOcho Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 I know someone mentioned a defensive defenseman never winning the award, and while I can't think of one who won either, I can think of one who was very deserving and from the sounds of it plays a similiar game to Mr. Rehak. The kid was Sean Hoffman and he played defense for Fargo North in the 1990's. The kid was a real bruiser, and went on to play for the University of Minnesota as a linebacker (rightfully so). Anyway, with the way the voting goes, it is very possible that Ladoucer (sp?) and Meland will split votes from eastern coaches and western coaches will all vote for the same guy. Who knows. If I had to pick today with the information provided I'd probably give the nod to Meland. Mainly because I believe him and Ladouceur are on similiar tiers, but I have heard nothing about Ladouceurs intellectual level. However, it has been advertised that Meland boasts a 4.0. To be honest, I'd like to see academic ability removed from bias as to who wins the award, but the state add an all-academic team. That way the best hockey player wins the award and we still give recognition for the work the kids do that will almost certainly be of greater importance than their success on the ice. Just my take. Quote
GF_siouxfan Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 Meland boasts a 4.0. haha i think its a 4.6 Quote
undhockey Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 North over Williston 3-1. You've got to be kidding me....#2 seed from the West? North just beat the #2 WDA seed and #2 regular season seed in consecutive days.... Congrats to North! Quote
Lives-to-play-hockey-06 Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 North over Williston 3-1. You've got to be kidding me....#2 seed from the West? North just beat the #2 WDA seed and #2 regular season seed in consecutive days.... Congrats to North! The west is brutal. They managed to walk away with no hardware. None, Zilch, Notta. They won the minimum amount of games possible for four teams in an eight team tournament. Quote
nodak hockey fanatic Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 The only question that arises from this topic is who has a chance to beat Red River? I see them going undefeated and having 2 finalists for Mr. Hockey. I don't think anyone in North Dakota will play a close game with them. 3-2 in triple ot... gpr over gfrr. great game. definately two best teams. gpr will be good next year, don't lose alot. like berman says... that is why they play the game. tough loss for a good rr team, but what a great game to watch. early predictions have a long time to fall apart Quote
HockeyHigh Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 2008 North Dakota State High School Hockey Championship Final [#1] Red River Roughriders (23-2-1) 2 vs. [#2] Grafton - Park River Spoilers (21-5-0) 3 Game Attendance: 4121 Mr. Hockey - Ryan Ladouceur 1st Period: 10:27 1st Period Grafton - Park River goal; Tyler Lindell (Tyler Vold, Adam Schaefer) ES 15:16 1st Period Red River goal; Keith Howe (Ryan LaDouceur, Jarrett Galbreath) ES End of First Red River 1 (11 Shots, 6 Scoring chances, 12 Faceoffs won, 2 penalties) Grafton - Park River 1 (11 Shots, 3 Scoring chances, 12 Faceoffs won, 2 penalties) Grafton starts 2nd period on the power play. 2nd Period 2:36 2nd Period Red River goal; Nick Schaefer (Ryan LaDouceur) ES End of Second Red River 2 (12 [23] Shots, 7 [13] Scoring chances, 11 [23] Faceoffs won, 1 penalty) Grafton - Park River 1 (8 [19] Shots, 5 [8] Scoring chances, 10 [22] Faceoffs won, 0 penalties) 3rd Period 9:14 3rd Period Grafton - Park River goal; Tanner Anderson (Chad Demers) PP End of Third Red River 2 (6 [29] Shots, 4 [17] Scoring chances, 8 [31] Faceoffs won, 1 penalty) Grafton - Park River 2 (10 [29] Shots, 4 [12] Scoring chances, 8 [30] Faceoffs won, 0 penalties) End of First Overtime Red River 2 ([34] Shots) Grafton - Park River 2 ([34] Shots) End of Second Overtime Red River 2 Grafton - Park River 2 Third Overtime Grafton - Park River goal; Chad Demers (Gaustad, Mohagen) End of Third Overtime Red River 2 Grafton - Park River 3 Quote
nodak hockey fanatic Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 ladouceur wins 2008 outstanding hockey senior award, well deserved. why can't we just call it mr. hockey? it is so much easier Quote
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