PCM Posted September 5, 2006 Author Share Posted September 5, 2006 From the Los Angeles Times: Illini Fighting to Keep Their Chief Mascot University of Illinois fans make a last-ditch appeal for tradition, saying it's not racistCHAMPAIGN, Ill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottM Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 On a somewhat related note, I watched the FSU-Miami game and smiled with glee everytime the FSU fans did "the chant" or I saw a close-up of the lance on the FSU helmets. The only thing missing was that good ol' boy Chief Osceola(sp?) riding across the Miami sideline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slap Shot Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 On a somewhat related note, I watched the FSU-Miami game and smiled with glee everytime the FSU fans did "the chant" or I saw a close-up of the lance on the FSU helmets. The only thing missing was that good ol' boy Chief Osceola(sp?) riding across the Miami sideline. I'm not bothered by the usage of Native American images for mascots/nicknames, but "The Chant" by FSU and Braves fans for some reason rubs me the wrong way. I just don't see anything redeeming by it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I'm not bothered by the usage of Native American images for mascots/nicknames, but "The Chant" by FSU and Braves fans for some reason rubs me the wrong way. I just don't see anything redeeming by it all. Are you a Seminole? If not, and if the Seminole's don't have a problem with it, why should you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7NationalTitles Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 Are you a Seminole? If not, and if the Seminole's don't have a problem with it, why should you? I was displaced by Hurricane Katrina and so was the rest of my family. We still are. I am more offended by the Hurricane logo making fun of my situation as well as countless others. Each time I hear the Miami Hurricane name, I have to be reminded of the devastation caused to me and my family. (P.S. I was never involved in Katrina, but an making an argument many of those who were could make regarding things they find offensive.) If the NCAA wants to crack down on offensive names, they surely need to include this one after what happened in August 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottM Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I'm not bothered by the usage of Native American images for mascots/nicknames, but "The Chant" by FSU and Braves fans for some reason rubs me the wrong way. I just don't see anything redeeming by it all. You needn't worry, nor be offended. The Supreme Arbiter of Good Taste and Sensitivity, Herr Myles Brand, has decreed that The Chant, and all of the other regala used by Florida State, is entirely acceptable, and you should not be bothered. Nothing to see here, move along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slap Shot Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I'll repeat that I am not bothered by the usage of Native American imagery for usage by athletic organizations, I didn't say I was "offended" in this case because I'm not, I didn't say I think FSU fans should be asked not to perform the chant and I don't think the NCAA needs to "crack down" on anything. I simply stated that there's something about the FSU "chant" that rubs me the wrong way. Are you a Seminole? If not, and if the Seminole's don't have a problem with it, why should you? One needn't be a Seminole to hold an opinion about 'The Chant'. I repeat - I'm not offended by it and don't think fans should be asked to stop doing it, but something about it irks me. Does the fact I'm not a Sioux render my support of UND's usage of the Sioux name meaningless? How about your support? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted September 5, 2006 Author Share Posted September 5, 2006 One needn't be a Seminole to hold an opinion about 'The Chant'. I repeat - I'm not offended by it and don't think fans should be asked to stop doing it, but something about it irks me. Does the fact I'm not a Sioux render my support of UND's usage of the Sioux name meaningless? How about your support? Perhaps you need to explain what "irks" you about the chant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slap Shot Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 Perhaps you need to explain what "irks" you about the chant. Actually, I don't owe anyone an explanation for giving the innocuous opinion that the FSU chant is uncool. I don't agree with the NCAA's stance, I just don't care for the chant. Fairly simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted September 5, 2006 Author Share Posted September 5, 2006 Actually, I don't owe anyone an explanation for giving the innocuous opinion that the FSU chant is uncool. I don't agree with the NCAA's stance, I just don't care for the chant. Fairly simple. I find the Minnesota Rouser quite irksome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggler Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I find Hail to the Victors, Wannabe and any song by Poison to be irksome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I find Hail to the Victors, Wannabe and any song by Poison to be irksome. Whoa whoa whoa whoa. Lumping The Spice Girls and Poison along with The Victors? Diggler, you have lost your mind. Now if it was Minnesota...hats off to thee...I wouldn't have a problem with your analogy as long as you threw in Achy Breaky Heart and The Macarena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted September 5, 2006 Author Share Posted September 5, 2006 I also want to say how much I greatly admire and respect men with mullets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slap Shot Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I find the Minnesota Rouser quite irksome. To each his own. I also want to say how much I greatly admire and respect men with mullets. It's a good thing or else you'd have a hard time stepping inside the REA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted September 5, 2006 Author Share Posted September 5, 2006 It's a good thing or else you'd have a hard time stepping inside the REA. Or crossing the Red River. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slap Shot Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 Or crossing the Red River. Bzzzz. Saying, "I know you are but..." is as bad as refrencing Hitler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted September 6, 2006 Author Share Posted September 6, 2006 Bzzzz. Saying, "I know you are but..." is as bad as refrencing Hitler. Saying "Bzzz" is as bad as saying "Whatever!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Bzzzz. Saying, "I know you are but..." is as bad as refrencing Hitler. The word would be 'referencing,' Slap Shot. Now go back to the gopher hole you crawled out of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted September 6, 2006 Author Share Posted September 6, 2006 The word would be 'referencing,' Slap Shot. Now go back to the gopher hole you crawled out of. Now be nice. At least he's not from Wisconsin (as far as I know). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slap Shot Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 The word would be 'referencing,' Slap Shot. Now go back to the gopher hole you crawled out of. You shouldn't end a sentence with a preposition. At least my error was a typo. /cue obligatory "we don't want you skippy here" retort Saying "Bzzz" is as bad as saying "Whatever!" PCM - I think you are one of the few that get 'it'. Internet smack talk is about as meaningful as Roger Clinton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeauxSioux Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Now be nice. At least he's not from Wisconsin (as far as I know). Okay, I could have gone my whole life without reading about the "grave robbers". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted September 6, 2006 Author Share Posted September 6, 2006 Okay, I could have gone my whole life without reading about the "grave robbers". At least they were into safe sex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YaneA Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Did I imagine this?? I watched a little bit of Manning v. Manning last night on Football Night in America and thought I heard one of the players introduce himself as being from "the University of Chief Illiniwek." Did I hear right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Did I imagine this?? I watched a little bit of Manning v. Manning last night on Football Night in America and thought I heard one of the players introduce himself as being from "the University of Chief Illiniwek." Did I hear right? I don't know if you heard correctly, but if you did that'd be a big ol' orange middle finger aimed at Myles Brand (on national TV no less). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottM Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I've been reading with interest, the columns/blogs and comments in the Chicago Tribune recently. Linky1 Linky2 There are a few others, but these seem to be the most current. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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