GrahamKracker Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I was wondering if anyone knew why UND decided to wear black jerseys at SCSU? Maybe this is old news, hell I don't even know if this game took place yet or not (but I've been getting a few emails about this), but if there was some clarification to this, I'd appreciate it. Also, has anyone heard that UND might also wear these jerseys playing the gophers (in MN)? I honestly don't think it would help, thought, after seeing them get spanked this weekend, sheesh.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I was wondering if anyone knew why UND decided to wear black jerseys at SCSU? Maybe this is old news, hell I don't even know if this game took place yet or not (but I've been getting a few emails about this), but if there was some clarification to this, I'd appreciate it. Also, has anyone heard that UND might also wear these jerseys playing the gophers (in MN)? I honestly don't think it would help, thought, after seeing them get spanked this weekend, sheesh.. UND never wore black jerseys at SCSU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamKracker Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 I don't know, but its here on UND's website. look at the last bullet in the notes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crosby_87 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 K thats from like the playoffs last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Black jersey's at SCSU? Where? University of North Dakota Fighting Sioux at St. Cloud State University on Nov. 18 University of North Dakota Fighting Sioux at St. Cloud State University on Nov. 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crosby_87 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Black jersey's at SCSU? Where? University of North Dakota Fighting Sioux at St. Cloud State University on Nov. 18 University of North Dakota Fighting Sioux at St. Cloud State University on Nov. 19 This happened in march of last year, so i'm not sure what the point was why GrahamKracker brought it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamKracker Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 For some reason its being talked about alot lately, show's how much I follow the wannabeeSioux....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 This happened in march of last year, so i'm not sure what the point was why GrahamKracker brought it up. He doesn't understand the "alternate jersey" concept and apparently doesn't know that UND has worn the alternate black uniforms for years. It has nothing to do with SCSU or the Fighting Sioux nickname. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crosby_87 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Yeah I'm kind of lost as to what he thought it had to do with the sioux name, or maybe didn't even think that at all. I just don't understand why this was even brought up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamKracker Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 Yeah I'm kind of lost as to what he thought it had to do with the sioux name, or maybe didn't even think that at all. I just don't understand why this was even brought up? He must give a "rip" about our team to not know anything. What is he thinking anyways. Wow........siouxsports looks pretty dead w/o him. "He" should come around more because "they" are pretty bored without his comments....lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Yeah I'm kind of lost as to what he thought it had to do with the sioux name, or maybe didn't even think that at all. I just don't understand why this was even brought up? Someone probably told him that SCSU made UND wear plain black uniforms minus the Sioux name and logo the last time UND played hockey in St. Cloud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Wow........siouxsports looks pretty dead w/o him. "He" should come around more because "they" are pretty bored without his comments....lol. It is amazing how there's almost no interest or discussion about the subject when you're not around. Given that this issue is the moral equivalent to slavery and women's suffrage, I'd think that somone besides you would be interested in it. Apparently not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamKracker Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 It is amazing how there's almost no interest or discussion about the subject when you're not around. Given that this issue is the moral equivalent to slavery and women's suffrage, I'd think that somone besides you would be interested in it. Apparently not. You're not a minority, I couldn't possibly expect you to understand. As for the mascot debate, you're not Sioux, so you couldn't possibly know where I'm coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 You're not a minority, I couldn't possibly expect you to understand. I understand that you're a minority of a minority, which was really my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riders06 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 You have no clue what you are talking about. You should leave siouxsports before you embarrass yourself more. The color of the jersey has nothing to do with the nickname and the play of the hockey team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggler Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 So why does it matter if UND wore black jerseys? It's there a reason it matters? What were you looking for by starting this thread? Does the color of the jerseys mean something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux,CO Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Nice to see GK is back. Nice sig line, I didn't know that ND was a country, last I saw it was a STATE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGSIOUX Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 i too like grahamcraker's sig line, by chance i happened upon this little ditty while looking at famous quotes. what do you guys all think of this..... Mitakuye Oyasin. [We are all related.] Lakota Belief that 'belief' surely isnt being portrayed by a real lakota grahamkracker...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakotadan Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 For some reason its being talked about alot lately, Please explain to us who exactly has been talking alot lately about UND wearing their black jerseys last March. Also please explain how this has anything to do with the Sioux name debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 The black jersey they wore in St. Cloud nearly a year ago: (yawn) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mako Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 The logo is beautiful. I know the artist and he is so talented. The problem isn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7NationalTitles Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I've been watching the debate for a long time from the sidelines. One thing that has struck me is that the proponents of the name change state that the logo and nickname stereotype the Native Americans and Sioux in a derogatory way. They say that it causes others to think about them in a negative way. On that note, I would think that many would agree that Native Americans in the past have been stereotyped in other negative ways. One being is that those who are racist have occasionally called Native Americans a bunch of gambling drunks. Now I don't condone this type of thinking but am using it to make a point. Now that is a harsh and negative stereotype against Native Americans and one that I don't condone. Proponents of the name change say that as long as the Sioux logo and nickname are around, there will continue to be negative stereotypes based on the logo and nickname. Well OK, if this is a negative stereotype then why do Native Americans have the Indian name and Indian logos plastered all over casinos. These casinos nowadays are highly synonomous with Native Americans. So I ask this....isn't the continued use of the Native American name and images on the casinos by Native Americans causing the ongoing stereotype that I mentioned above? If one item (the logo and nickname) cause continued misrepresentations of the Native American community, then isn't the use of casinos doing the same? I've never heard that argument by the proponents before. I guess it's OK for one negative stereotype to be gotten rid of while the continued stereotyping of another exists. It must be the fact that Native Americans profit directly off the casinos and not the University is why Native Americans are concerned about one stereotype and not another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 (edited) The Bison Turf sing a song about killing Sioux. It Edited December 13, 2005 by The Sicatoka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 The logo is beautiful. I know the artist and he is so talented. The problem isn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star2city Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 The logo is beautiful. I know the artist and he is so talented. The problem isn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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