Bike guy and the 3 Cream Puffs

[GoodGood]

27 minutes ago, CMSioux said:

 - most of the time we drop them inside the 20. 

Not sure what your definition of “most of the time is” but outside of the Valpo game UND has held an opponent inside the 20 twice…

[bubbaball69]

1 hour ago, gundy1124 said:

With Quincy gone someone had to fill the void.

Quincy new his roll didn't say much !@#$ he was my neighbor below me super nice guy, but they didn't talk about him nearly as much as simon its apples and oranges, 

[bubbaball69]

18 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

The measure of success for KO’s is where your opponent starts their drive. Overall, it’s been very good this year. Create TO’s and avoid penalties and KO team can be a difference maker.  The measure of success for a punter and punt team is net yds/punt. Punting and Punt coverage has been very good. 
KO return and Punt return are easier to break down. No turnovers, no penalties, don’t let punts hit the ground unless inside your own 5yd line.  The guys have done well so far this year. Punt blocks, FG/XP blocks are a great bonus and we have done well so far. 
Missing XP’s, getting a kick blocked, missing FG’s is usually one guy missing their assignment.  To continue to struggle with FG’s or XP’s is usually mental. Good luck solving that. It has happened to All-pro kickers who have a bad few games, get cut and are back the next year as an all-pro. That’s tough to solve at college level during mid-season.

The issue is its been two years of poor kicking now with no changes, everything else has been great punting has been a big surprise. But point after and FG inside 35 shouldn't be on edge of our seat, they need to either recruit better or get a transfer in. Hes okay but not good.

[HoopsFan03]

10 hours ago, GoodGood said:

Tom Miller: Here’s another article about the 3rd string QB

UND social media team: Let’s promote the 3rd string QB 

UND360: Let’s keep talking about the 3rd string QB

SS forum to @SIOUXFAN97: Stop talking about the 3rd string QB 

Make it make sense!!

[bubbaball69]

11 hours ago, HoopsFan03 said:

Make it make sense!!

Is there supposed to be a /s at the end or is he making sense, there isn't enough talked about the whole team, when we are on the rise.

[jdub27]

21 hours ago, iramurphy said:

The measure of success for KO’s is where your opponent starts their drive. Overall, it’s been very good this year. Create TO’s and avoid penalties and KO team can be a difference maker.  The measure of success for a punter and punt team is net yds/punt. Punting and Punt coverage has been very good. 

Here are the actual numbers to back this up for opponents average starting field position on kickoffs:
KSU - 28 (29 on non-touchbacks, 44 yarder at the end hurt)
PSU - 21 (19 on non-touchback, plus one turnover)
UM - 23 (21 on non-touchbacks, UM had a PF penalty to lower the average)
Valpo - 21 (17 on non-touchbacks, Valpo had a holding penalty to lower average)
UNI - 25 (24 on non-touchbacks)

Season - 23 (22 on non-touchbacks with one turnover)

Being that touchbacks move the ball to the 25, other than KSU, the non-touchback strategy seems to be working with the bonus of creating an extra position with a turnover. Some of the "touchbacks" were actually fair catches inside the 25 that move the ball out to the 25, so they are counted the same.

Tied for 7th in the nation with 3 blocked kicks
Tied for 1st in the nation with 0 blocked kicks allowed
6th in the nation for avg net punting yards (41.95) and T16 for Avg Punt Return Allowed (11 for 44 yards)

[SIOUXFAN97]

28 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

Here are the actual numbers to back this up for opponents average starting field position on kickoffs:
KSU - 28 (29 on non-touchbacks, 44 yarder at the end hurt)
PSU - 21 (19 on non-touchback, plus one turnover)
UM - 23 (21 on non-touchbacks, UM had a PF penalty to lower the average)
Valpo - 21 (17 on non-touchbacks, Valpo had a holding penalty to lower average)
UNI - 25 (24 on non-touchbacks)

Season - 23 (22 on non-touchbacks with one turnover)

Being that touchbacks move the ball to the 25, other than KSU, the non-touchback strategy seems to be working with the bonus of creating an extra position with a turnover. Some of the "touchbacks" were actually fair catches inside the 25 that move the ball out to the 25, so they are counted the same.

Tied for 7th in the nation with 3 blocked kicks
Tied for 1st in the nation with 0 blocked kicks allowed
6th in the nation for avg net punting yards (41.95) and T16 for Avg Punt Return Allowed (11 for 44 yards)

now do missed extra points the last 3 years...i'll hangup and listen.

[jdub27]

1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

now do missed extra points the last 3 years...i'll hangup and listen.

2025 - 25/26
Opponents - 12/13

2024 - 44/45
Opponents - 44/45

2023 - 43/45 
Opponents - 34/36

2022 - 45/45
Opponents - 44/46

UND - 3 misses in the last 3.5 seasons, conversion rate of 98.1%
Opponents - 6 misses last 3.5 seasons, conversion rate of 95.7%

 

[SIOUXFAN97]

36 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

2025 - 25/26
Opponents - 12/13

2024 - 44/45
Opponents - 44/45

2023 - 43/45 
Opponents - 34/36

2022 - 45/45
Opponents - 44/46

UND - 3 misses in the last 3.5 seasons, conversion rate of 98.1%
Opponents - 6 misses last 3.5 seasons, conversion rate of 95.7%

 

leach had a few...so did stage....on and on......

[SIOUXFAN97]

this drive could've ended up better had we been down 3 instead of 4...dawhoops.

 

[jdub27]

50 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

leach had a few...so did stage....on and on......

What was your point with our XPs over the last 3 years? 

[SIOUXFAN97]

12 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

What was your point with our XPs over the last 3 years? 

point was it been going on since reid left...and he's been gone for a lot longer than 3 years....

[Und Princess]

On 10/6/2025 at 11:52 AM, GoodGood said:

Tom Miller: Here’s another article about the 3rd string QB

UND social media team: Let’s promote the 3rd string QB 

UND360: Let’s keep talking about the 3rd string QB

SS forum to @SIOUXFAN97: Stop talking about the 3rd string QB 

If you want me to make an article about 3rd quarterback on From The Stands To The Spotlight I will. I'm a writer for the people!!! I've been in customer service/restaurant hosting industry for seven years. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

31 minutes ago, Und Princess said:

If you want me to make an article about 3rd quarterback on From The Stands To The Spotlight I will. I'm a writer for the people!!! I've been in customer service/restaurant hosting industry for seven years. 

do it!!!

 

[jdub27]

42 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

point was it been going on since reid left...and he's been gone for a lot longer than 3 years....

Career - 126/129 for a 97.6% conversion rate.

Don't think that is making the point you were hoping for...

[GoodGood]

43 minutes ago, Und Princess said:

If you want me to make an article about 3rd quarterback on From The Stands To The Spotlight I will. I'm a writer for the people!!! I've been in customer service/restaurant hosting industry for seven years. 

Please do it!! 

[SIOUXFAN97]

5 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

Career - 126/129 for a 97.6% conversion rate.

Don't think that is making the point you were hoping for...

who?

[wheelsup]

21 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

Career - 126/129 for a 97.6% conversion rate.

Don't think that is making the point you were hoping for...

My guess is you are both missing the point right now.. if @jdub27 thinks our kicking has been decent then you need to roll in fgs as well as xp.. FG has been terrible this year. Clearly over the last 3 years xp has been solid.  CJ was quite decent last year.  I thought he would be better this year.. he hasn’t been. 
 

for @SIOUXFAN97 to say the special teams sucks.. at least this year the data doesn’t come close to bearing that out. Punting has been good/great.. punt blocs have been awesome.. kickoffs have been good.. but the kicker has struggled. 

personally I’m just hoping the kicking game improves to the point that I can beat the rush to the coors lite sales guy instead of holding my breath and hoping. 

[The Sicatoka]

1 minute ago, wheelsup said:

personally I’m just hoping the kicking game improves to the point that I can beat the rush to the coors lite sales guy instead of holding my breath and hoping. 

Gotta have life goals. 

[Siouxperman8]

On 10/6/2025 at 1:57 PM, bubbaball69 said:

The issue is its been two years of poor kicking now with no changes, everything else has been great punting has been a big surprise. But point after and FG inside 35 shouldn't be on edge of our seat, they need to either recruit better or get a transfer in. Hes okay but not good.

Kickers are a strange breed - I know as I was one.  It can come back pretty fast for him and he has been better the last few games.

A little recency bias here because his stats last year were actually pretty good.  

From the MVFC web page

UND was 14/19 on fg.  Tied for 3rd in % at 73.7%

UND was 44/45 on XPT.  97.8%

 

[jdub27]

18 minutes ago, wheelsup said:

My guess is you are both missing the point right now.. if @jdub27 thinks our kicking has been decent then you need to roll in fgs as well as xp.. FG has been terrible this year. Clearly over the last 3 years xp has been solid.  CJ was quite decent last year.  I thought he would be better this year.. he hasn’t been. 

Would agree on the FG kicking needing to be more consistent, particularly this year and especially from a shorter distance.
But blanket comparisons are tough on those unless you start breaking it down by distance and then get into the wider hash's for college, etc.
They do need to figure it out as it helps with a true risk/reward scenario when you are comfortable the 3 points are almost automatic if you don't go for a 4th down conversion.

The only reason XP's came up was because it was specifically mentioned that UND has been lacking in that the last 3-4 seasons. Averaging 1 miss a year doesn't seem to fit that narrative. 100% would be great.

 

41 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

who?

Reid. The guy you specifically stated issues started after he left.
Super nice guy as well. Met him a time or two after he had graduated. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

2 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

Would agree on the FG kicking needing to be more consistent, particularly this year and especially from a shorter distance.
But blanket comparisons are tough on those unless you start breaking it down by distance and then get into the wider hash's for college, etc.
They do need to figure it out as it helps with a true risk/reward scenario when you are comfortable the 3 points are almost automatic if you don't go for a 4th down conversion.

The only reason XP's came up was because it was specifically mentioned that UND has been lacking in that the last 3-4 seasons. Averaging 1 miss a year doesn't seem to fit that narrative. 100% would be great.

 

Reid. The guy you specifically stated issues started after he left.
Super nice guy as well. Met him a time or two after he had graduated. 

i meant the time after he left...reid didn't have the strongest leg but he got it done.

[jdub27]

1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

i meant the time after he left...reid didn't have the strongest leg but he got it done.

2017 - 30/33
2018 - 35/38
2019 - 35/38
2020 - 26/29
2021 - 31/31
2022 - 45/45
2023 - 43/45 
2024 - 44/45
2025 - 25/26

2017-2020, missing 3 a year is below where anyone would want to see.
Since the spring Covid season, UND is hitting XP's at 98% clip. I don't think that is an issue. That's about as automatic as you are going to find.

Agree that FG's from 40 and in need to be way more consistent.
 

[wheelsup]

58 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

2017 - 30/33
2018 - 35/38
2019 - 35/38
2020 - 26/29
2021 - 31/31
2022 - 45/45
2023 - 43/45 
2024 - 44/45
2025 - 25/26

2017-2020, missing 3 a year is below where anyone would want to see.
Since the spring Covid season, UND is hitting XP's at 98% clip. I don't think that is an issue. That's about as automatic as you are going to find.

Agree that FG's from 40 and in need to be way more consistent.
 

What the data above really shows is that our offense has not been the problem and it looks like it’s on track to be even better this year.  If Schmitty can keep the defense rolling we have a real chance. 

[Und Princess]

My Simon Romfo Story will be up on Thursday.