knowledge Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 www.mratings.com Chng Team W L Rating Sched Massey 1 Texas 6 0 2.578 1.97 ( 36) 2 IA 2 USC 6 0 2.572 1.98 ( 34) 1 IA 3 Georgia 6 0 2.535 2.05 ( 25) 8 IA 4 Alabama 6 0 2.521 2.04 ( 26) 10 IA 5 Virginia Tech 6 0 2.490 1.96 ( 41) 3 IA 6 Penn St 6 1 2.392 2.24 ( 9) 6 IA 7 LSU 4 1 2.348 2.29 ( 5) 14 IA 8 Texas Tech 6 0 2.325 1.44 (111) 13 IA 9 Wisconsin 6 1 2.308 2.10 ( 18) 12 IA 10 Oregon 6 1 2.233 1.97 ( 37) 4 IA 19 Minnesota 5 2 2.112 2.12 ( 16) 18 IA 73 - 1 Grand Valley St 7 0 1.468 0.76 (166) 102 II (top non-1a--top II) 80 Appalachian St 4 2 1.404 1.40 (113) 103 IAA (top 1aa) 86 Cal Poly SLO 5 1 1.324 0.98 (133) 80 IAA (top G.West) 91 North Dakota 8 0 1.288 0.57 (192) 46 II (top NCC number 2 DII) 128 N Dakota St 4 2 0.946 0.80 (153) 96 IAA 131 Carroll MT 6 0 0.925 0.14 (257) 173 NAIA (top NAIA) 144 UC Davis 3 3 0.848 0.96 (136) 121 IAA (next Bison opp) 154 WI Whitewater 6 0 0.803 -0.00 (289) 186 III (top DIII) 175 S Dakota St 3 3 0.720 0.76 (162) 145 IAA 182 South Dakota 7 1 0.681 0.07 (274) 136 II (nice schedule) 205 St John's MN 7 0 0.530 -0.39 (391) 211 III (Top MIAC--garbage win Saturday) 217 Linfield 5 0 0.430 -0.50 (425) 175 III (defending champs--QB was ahead of Alex Smith at Utah until he broke his wrist!) 221 Nicholls St 2 3 0.420 0.69 (179) 139 IAA (Bison opp) 222 Ferris St 3 5 0.410 0.73 (176) 270 II (Sioux opp) 279 Concordia Mhd 5 1 0.142 -0.43 (411) 299 III (GO COBBS) 345 Mary ND 6 1 -0.123 -0.78 (519) 349 NAIA 361 MN Mankato 2 6 -0.183 0.25 (238) 276 II 445 Moorhead St 1 6 -0.472 0.12 (263) 443 II 539 - 1 MN Crookston 0 8 -0.768 0.14 (258) 616 II 697 Trinity Bib 1 6 -2.163 -1.89 (687) 701 Mixed (NOT THE WORST!!!!!) 702 - 1 MA Maritime 0 6 -2.639 -2.15 (692) 700 III (THE WORST) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Amazing Minny is in the top 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 I have a lot more faith in Massey (last numeric column) than the BCS system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 I have a lot more faith in Massey (last numeric column) than the BCS system. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You think UND is the 46th best team in ALL of college football? UND is real good this year... but not that good IMHO computers do a decent/good job of comparing teams within divisions, but not across them due the limited amount of interplay between teams across divisions. DII has an additional "problem" in these ratings as you have 13 team leagues such as the GLIAC which have played a total of 4 non conference games and the 10 team NE-10 has played 6 total non-conf games. Pretty difficult to get a read on relative conference strength where you have conferences in which less than half the teams have played non-conference games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxMD Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 UND is real good this year... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Holy Cow! I will be sure to remember this day...a Bison fan acknowledged that UND has a good team!!! Thanks for the comments...good luck this weekend against UC-Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 You think UND is the 46th best team in ALL of college football? UND is real good this year... but not that good <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No they would be the 91th team in all of college football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirtcoach Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 NDSU Math??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodakvindy Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 No they would be the 91th team in all of college football. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> North Dakota is 91 in the Massey BCS ranking, which does not consider margin of victory, per BCS rules. In Massey's true rating, North Dakota is indeed 46 overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BisonSuck Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I like that. ndsu fans brag up the Massey Rating all the time. This gives me more "fire power" down here in Fargo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 IMHO computers do a decent/good job of comparing teams within divisions, but not across them due the limited amount of interplay between teams across divisions. I said "more". I never said how much in either. The computer rankings that seems to most match what my eyes tell me is the PWR (used to seed the DI mens hockey tournament). There aren't enough games played in football to do a PWR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge Posted October 26, 2005 Author Share Posted October 26, 2005 www.mratings.com Chng Team W L Rating Sched Massey 1 Texas 7 0 2.808 2.44 ( 7) 1 IA 2 + 2 Alabama 7 0 2.587 2.29 ( 27) 9 IA 3 + 2 Virginia Tech 7 0 2.529 2.20 ( 36) 3 IA 4 - 2 USC 7 0 2.519 2.14 ( 50) 2 IA 5 - 2 Georgia 7 0 2.466 2.17 ( 45) 14 IA 6 Penn St 7 1 2.424 2.45 ( 6) 4 IA 7 + 5 UCLA 7 0 2.375 1.99 ( 79) 13 I 8 + 1 Wisconsin 7 1 2.335 2.30 ( 25) 11 IA 9 - 2 LSU 5 1 2.328 2.43 ( 8) 15 IA 10 Oregon 7 1 2.252 2.18 ( 43) 6 IA 15 + 4 Minnesota 5 2 2.181 2.42 ( 10) 17 IA 73 - 1 Grand Valley St 8 0 1.453 0.81 (165) 94 II (top dII, non DI) 78 + 2 Appalachian St 5 2 1.407 1.46 (118) 103 IAA (top Iaa) 88 +33 Texas St 6 1 1.323 0.88 (161) 77 IAA 89 - 4 W Kentucky 6 1 1.322 0.77 (171) 90 IAA 90 - 1 Furman 7 1 1.319 0.98 (142) 118 IAA 101 -10 North Dakota 9 0 1.197 0.50 (211) 58 II (#2 DII) 107 -21 Cal Poly SLO 5 2 1.173 1.14 (133) 87 IAA 113 -15 Ball St 1 6 1.115 2.18 ( 42) 137 IA 114 -11 Saginaw Val 7 1 1.109 0.68 (188) 130 II 116 Montana St 4 3 1.071 1.29 (125) 110 IAA 117 +27 UC Davis 4 3 1.069 1.23 (127) 104 IAA 129 + 2 Carroll MT 7 0 0.966 0.20 (246) 164 NAIA (top naia) 130 +35 Arizona 1 6 0.958 2.08 ( 60) 99 IA 131 - 5 Temple 0 8 0.947 2.37 ( 16) 188 IA (eh rocky) 132 - 8 Northwood MI 7 2 0.943 0.67 (190) 178 II 142 -14 N Dakota St 4 3 0.872 0.98 (144) 107 IAA 151 -14 FL Atlantic 1 7 0.813 1.86 ( 87) 176 IA 153 +16 Morningside 7 0 0.808 -0.08 (298) 241 NAIA 156 +41 Weber St 4 4 0.795 0.99 (140) 125 IAA 157 +18 S Dakota St 4 3 0.795 0.76 (172) 134 IAA 162 +14 NE Omaha 6 2 0.757 0.51 (210) 150 II 178 -26 St Cloud 7 2 0.675 0.26 (236) 151 II 186 - 4 South Dakota 8 1 0.630 -0.05 (294) 144 II 187 -29 N Alabama 6 2 0.629 0.32 (229) 135 II 202 + 3 St John's MN 8 0 0.527 -0.48 (397) 198 III (#2 DIII) 203 +13 Sioux Falls 7 1 0.510 -0.10 (303) 299 NAIA 204 +67 SE Louisiana 2 4 0.507 0.97 (145) 195 IAA 205 + 2 Pittsburg St 7 2 0.498 0.08 (268) 168 II 224 +12 MT Tech 7 2 0.398 -0.03 (289) 319 NAIA 227 -10 Linfield 6 0 0.334 -0.67 (453) 177 III 228 + 4 St Olaf 7 0 0.333 -0.78 (493) 259 III 243 -28 N Colorado 2 4 0.281 0.73 (179) 213 IAA 255 +24 Concordia Mhd 6 1 0.235 -0.42 (384) 270 III 256 - 6 Concordia MN 7 2 0.231 -0.24 (337) 239 II 260 +27 Augustana SD 4 5 0.218 0.36 (225) 248 II 317 +28 Mary ND 7 1 -0.025 -0.78 (494) 344 NAIA 375 +12 Dickinson St ND 5 3 -0.200 -0.48 (399) 378 NAIA 422 -15 Ark Monticello 1 8 -0.397 0.30 (232) 387 II 463 -18 Moorhead St 1 7 -0.517 0.10 (263) 446 II 571 -15 Northwestern MN 7 2 -0.894 -1.81 (682) 518 NAIA 572 -34 MN Crookston 0 9 -0.895 0.02 (280) 643 II 698 - 1 Trinity Bib 1 7 -2.190 -2.07 (687) 701 Mixed 702 Nichols 0 7 -2.527 -2.20 (694) 698 III (the bottom) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farce poobah Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 As is often said on this board, "The only computer rankings that matter are the computer rankings that you hang your banners on." Or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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