UND @ NDSU 11/19/2022

[UND-FB-FAN]

7 minutes ago, SiouxFan100 said:

I don’t remember a lot of dropped passes this year.

No doubt.Catching has been good. Catching plus speed/separation is better. more work to do. 

Belquist is very good and has elevated that whole group’s production. Maag also can catch, despite being slow. 

[wheelsup]

Just so I have it clear in my head…. 
a group of mediocre.. below average WRs (except belquist).. somehow have participated in an offense which is near the top of the Missouri valley.  Man our coaches must be really good to end up with those kind of stats with such a bunch of mediocre talents.. .. lots of sarcasm in case it didn’t come through.

I’ll take a belquist/maag/red/Dennis type every year.. and maybe wish for a true burner type as well (although maag has been plenty open on many deep routes) 

the wr group has been one of our positives this year and about 100th on the priority list behind pretty much every defensive position.. 

[iramurphy]

3 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

No doubt.Catching has been good. Catching plus speed/separation is better. more work to do. 

Belquist is very good and has elevated that whole group’s production. Maag also can catch, despite being slow. 

Geaux_Sioux says Maag is our fastest receiver. I wouldn’t know but I have no reason to doubt his comment. Maag is an effective receiver and has shown the ability to get open. If he is our fastest guy, then he is a 4.6 or better guy. If our guys can run disciplined routes and accelerate off their breaks 4.6 is fine. How much separation do you think there is between a 4.5 guy and even a 4.7 guy within the first 20-30 yds?  There are virtually less than a stride apart. The deeper the pattern the more important the elite speed is. Otherwise I will take an athlete who can read the coverage and is quick enough to accelerate off the break or into the seam and catches the ball. 

[Sioux>Bison]

On 11/24/2022 at 8:07 AM, Midwestern Hawk said:

Get them?  Get who?  Don’t  they develop them. Who are all the giant NFL bound DL playing at the SU’s?   

What about USD? What talent have they landed that we are passing on?

[CMSioux]

On 11/25/2022 at 11:22 AM, iramurphy said:

My comments aren’t defending the coaches. It is a comment on the regurgitation of the same stuff week after week by the same posters. I have commented that I believe it derails many discussions. I have felt because there will be no change during the middle of a season it serves no purpose to insert the same complaints about coaches into virtually every discussion. I have believed that before we make wholesale change we better have a viable solution in place that we have full confidence will not set the program back but will likely be an improvement. Most of the fire the coach comments don’t show much more than a shallow understanding (if that much) as to the total picture and the complexities of building or tearing down a program. I am of the opinion that I support my staff up until the day I let them go. Each year staff is evaluated and among other things, they are asked what else they need to be successful. Then as an employer or a supervisor, before I consider change I self evaluate as to whether or not I have provided all of the resources that we mutually agreed were necessary for success. I am not sure that means I’m narrow minded or not. You may think so but I don’t believe I see a depth of understanding in the majority of fire people posts. Some want faster receivers. I posed the question: how fast is fast enough?.  4.6 fast enough? We know 40 times but I would rather know how quick we get off the LOS, how quick we can accelerate to full speed, how quick can we play FB within 20yds on both sides of the LOS. Arguably the fastest WR in our history struggled to catch the FB. We need bigger guys. Our listed sizes are similar to listed sizes for NDSU and SDSU. This is a pretty darn good group of asst coaches and from what recruits and parents have told me they do a good job. Show me an upgrade and I’m all for it, but let’s do that when the season is over. If that’s narrow minded then I’m guilty. Otherwise these guys have slowly improved the program so they have my public support until I see a change that will do better. Just my opinion which is no more valid than most anyone else’s. 

We were told we would never be competitive in the MVFC, third season and we are #3. It is BS to say the conference is down this year. If you really follow the team you get to know some of the parent's of the players and you hear how much they support Bubba and the staff and how much their son is enjoying his time at UND. Of course there are exceptions but the overall vibe you get from the parent's is positive. Most would never come to this site and I'm quite certain they would be perplexed of the negativity they would read (from a minority thankfully). 

[Sioux95]

12 minutes ago, CMSioux said:

We were told we would never be competitive in the MVFC, third season and we are #3. It is BS to say the conference is down this year. If you really follow the team you get to know some of the parent's of the players and you hear how much they support Bubba and the staff and how much their son is enjoying his time at UND. Of course there are exceptions but the overall vibe you get from the parent's is positive. Most would never come to this site and I'm quite certain they would be perplexed of the negativity they would read (from a minority thankfully). 

For what it's worth, we were much more successful in our first 3 years in the Missouri valley than NDSU was. I'm not sure about South Dakota state,  but I would assume the same. I know that's not an apples to apples comparison because we had our stint in the big sky, but still something that stands out as better than a lot of people expected.

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

1 hour ago, CMSioux said:

We were told we would never be competitive in the MVFC, third season and we are #3. It is BS to say the conference is down this year. If you really follow the team you get to know some of the parent's of the players and you hear how much they support Bubba and the staff and how much their son is enjoying his time at UND. Of course there are exceptions but the overall vibe you get from the parent's is positive. Most would never come to this site and I'm quite certain they would be perplexed of the negativity they would read (from a minority thankfully). 

Way too much negativity.
Mods' friends are the trolls. Only site I know in MVFC that allows trolls to troll in a game day.
There are negative posters that support troll's negative posts against our team.

Scientific. Through research by Heaphy & IDed.
"For every negative comment you make, you need to share 5 positive comments as well"



As the saying goes. 

[SiouxFan100]

This game is over and done

onward

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4 hours ago, iramurphy said:

Geaux_Sioux says Maag is our fastest receiver. I wouldn’t know but I have no reason to doubt his comment. Maag is an effective receiver and has shown the ability to get open. If he is our fastest guy, then he is a 4.6 or better guy. If our guys can run disciplined routes and accelerate off their breaks 4.6 is fine. How much separation do you think there is between a 4.5 guy and even a 4.7 guy within the first 20-30 yds?  There are virtually less than a stride apart. The deeper the pattern the more important the elite speed is. Otherwise I will take an athlete who can read the coverage and is quick enough to accelerate off the break or into the seam and catches the ball. 

That stride you are talking about is what separation is. There are athletes that can read coverage and are quick/fast. Nice combination, exists more commonly than you would think, but it’s high in demand.