The Sicatoka Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Sicatoka.....unless you are on the inside knowing what is going on....dont comment on something you dont know about...and that is all i will say.....dont act like what you think you know is the way it is....thank you.... Hasn't this road been traveled once before but then regarding contracts and qualifications to read them? I seem to recall a conversation between you and PCM along those lines. Wasn't the resultant of that one don't "act like what you think you know is the way it is"? Do you know I don't have an "inside"? Are you sure? If it is the way you say, why not blow it wide open to Tom Dennis at the GF Herald? Why just dabble on an internet posting board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend334 Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 if you knew you wouldnt make the comments you make...that is evident...and if you do have inside information it is not good info.....need anymore proof ask some of the people who have dealings with the new building and you will find out more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Do you know I don't have an "inside"? Are you sure? Could it be that you and I have a different understanding of the same matters? If it is the way you say, why not blow it wide open to Tom Dennis at the GF Herald? Why just dabble on an internet posting board? The question stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend334 Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 indulge me on your insight information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 indulge me on your insight information. You were the person who came here claiming to have inside information based on having read the REA contract. I asked you in private to "show your cards" and prove to me that you knew what you were talking about. You declined. I know who the Sicatoka is. I know who he talks to. What he says makes sense. What you say doesn't. Who should I believe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend334 Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 enough said!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxMeNow Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 all I'll say about this is RT - TC - The Earl...et al...aren't pulling the strings as much as one TB who wants to move up in world of casino management... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxMeNow Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 and frankly I feel bad for RT because he's really caught between a rock and a hard place in this situation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAnswer Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 If this building doesn't prove UND SHOULD WIN EVERY GAME I don't know what does. What a joke, you UND fans are so lucky. And your men's basketball team was .500 or something? Wow, that is simply unreal and shouldn't happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 If this building doesn't prove UND SHOULD WIN EVERY GAME I don't know what does. Bzzzzt. Sorry, The Answer, but apparently you don't know The Question. Please pick up a copy of the SiouxSports.com home game, practice up and come back when you can provide An Answer that actually relates to A Question being discussed here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 I think Strinden is just talking about the $110 million plus that was donated for the hockey arena. I don't think they have donated anything at all specifically for the Betty. And it looks as though they don't intend to ask the Engelstads to do so. Maybe this is old news, but on the news tonight it said the Engelstad family donated all the money for The Betty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxMeNow Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Maybe this is old news, but on the news tonight it said the Engelstad family donated all the money for The Betty. Don't think that's true. When the arena was announced, REA officials said it would be payed for entirely with revenues from the Ralph and "anticipated" revenues from basketball. We'll probably never know if the Engelstad family kicked in any money for it but they certainly didn't pay for it all. I do know an alumni funddrive payed for the upgrade to leather seats - a nice addition than was not planned for in the original layout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND Fan Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 The fund drive is definitely continuing. I know that they are still looking for $75-100,000 to complete the weightroom. Plus, there are other needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGreyAnt41 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 The fund drive is definitely continuing. I know that they are still looking for $75-100,000 to complete the weightroom. Plus, there are other needs. Another weight room? The massive one in the ralph isn't big enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 "The dynamic in our business is with facilities. That's where the arms race is." -- Ohio State University Athletics Director Andy Geiger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND Fan Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Two reasons that I believe address the need for a weightroom in the Betty: 1) The existing weghtroom is for hockey, I don't think it was meant to be "shared". 2) Logistically, the hockey weightroom is a long ways from the locker rooms at the Betty. Reason No. 1 far outweighs anything else - and probably appropriately so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux goo Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 the weight room at the Hyslop is closer??? since that is where MBB WBB and volleyball will be lifting this year?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 I want the hockey weight room to be used by hockey players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux goo Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 thats nice!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 They are working to finish out the weight room at The Betty. Sure, this year they'll (BB, VB) have to go to Hyslop. That's a small inconvenience now to have their own space in The Betty in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 Don't think that's true. When the arena was announced, REA officials said it would be payed for entirely with revenues from the Ralph and "anticipated" revenues from basketball. We'll probably never know if the Engelstad family kicked in any money for it but they certainly didn't pay for it all. I do know an alumni funddrive payed for the upgrade to leather seats - a nice addition than was not planned for in the original layout. Yeah...I'm going to believe the media on this one. The Engelstad Family is indeed paying for The Betty. As 'UND Fan' has also pointed out: The Engelstad family built us a tremendous hocky arena. The profits from the arena have helped fund all UND athletic programs - including the very expensive Women's program. Now they agreed to make the payments on a bond issue that will allow the UND BB and VB programs to have room to practice as well as play some games in a first class facility. I am sure the fundraising is continuing, because fundraising frankly never ends. UND needs $100,00 to finish the weigh room and other "needs." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxMeNow Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 Yeah...I'm going to believe the media on this one. The Engelstad Family is indeed paying for The Betty. As 'UND Fan' has also pointed out: The Engelstad family built us a tremendous hocky arena. The profits from the arena have helped fund all UND athletic programs - including the very expensive Women's program. Now they agreed to make the payments on a bond issue that will allow the UND BB and VB programs to have room to practice as well as play some games in a first class facility. I am sure the fundraising is continuing, because fundraising frankly never ends. UND needs $100,00 to finish the weigh room and other "needs." got any proof that Betty "really" kicked in on her arena??? I don't...Owen Nitz is running Ralph's business end now (MAJOR Vegas TAN and all! - geez..he looks like a Soprano )...he helped out TRF with another check for a "mere" $300,000 and an admonishment to "not ask for any more...". UND got the Ralph and a certain "manager" pushed the Betty forward from there (mostly to make his OWN name in my opinion but that's ANOTHER THREAD ) Fact is...we'll never know the true financial picture but the facilities are here., bought and (mostly) paid for...NOW..it's up to US to make them a success! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 got any proof that Betty "really" kicked in on her arena??? I don't... This probably isn't "proof" to you, but go to WDAZ.com click "Sioux Fans Tour the Betty Engelstad Center" (gotta do it quick before the link goes away) and at the end Lori Cowan will state: "The arena was built with a seven million dollar donation to UND from the Engelstad family." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star2city Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Based on the press release from the Ralph, the Betty is almost certainly financed through profits from the main arena. UND received authorization from the state board to finance the Betty with bonds. Even Betty Engelstad's statement at the dedication reflect that profits from the Ralph made the BB/VB arena possible: When Ralph and I announced our gift in 1998, we expressed our wish for our gift to benefit the University of North Dakota, the communities of Grand Forks/East Grand Forks, and the region as a whole. It is very gratifying to see how our original gift has made possible, another fine facility for the benefit of the University and the communities. Today, I am humbled and deeply honored to have the newest addition of the Ralph Engelstad Arena complex be named after myself and a sincere thank you for those who made this decision. From: http://www.theralph.com/new2/Press_Releases/Aug242004.htm WDAZ's statements were incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxMeNow Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 This probably isn't "proof" to you, but go to WDAZ.com click "Sioux Fans Tour the Betty Engelstad Center" (gotta do it quick before the link goes away) and at the end Lori Cowan will state: "The arena was built with a seven million dollar donation to UND from the Engelstad family." that would be the first time the local media has made a mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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