SiouxScore Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Anyway.............., to somewhat update everyone on where UND is in recruiting: Josh Parks may or may not be on his way to UND. Ezra is deciding between UNI and UND. We had a contingent in Michigan today to recruit at Brother Rice. There is speculation that Kacour is accepting a PWO to UofM. Did I miss anything fellow recruiting buddies? Roll tribe! Parks accepted a PWO offer from Minnesota yesterday and as for Kocour he hasn't officially taken the PWO from Minnesota and the picture earlier in this thread is a picture every official visitor takes at Minnesota but I could definitely see him ending up there as Minnesota doesn't currently have any official DB commits and he could have a decent opportunity there although it is believed one recruit has given them a silent verbal. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 You mean to tell me we're right on pace with this throw away class that will contribute nothing but warm bodies? Excuse me while I scrape my brain off the ceiling and pick my jaw up off the floor. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 You mean to tell me we're right on pace with this throw away class that will contribute nothing but warm bodies? Excuse me while I scrape my brain off the ceiling and pick my jaw up off the floor. Great coaches do great things. If Bubba and his staff's ability to recruit produces classes like this when they only have a month to recruit, what's it gonna be like when they have an entire season to work with? We're coming back baby!! Quote
Realguy21 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 I have a question: How many of these verbal commitments that we have were actually recruited and identified by the new staff. I have a feeling the guys we have committed at this point and time were being recruited by the previous staff even after everything happen in november? So how great of a job is bubba staff doing or are they riding the coat tails of previous recruiting?! 1 Quote
darell1976 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 I know Bubba is pushing hard for upper Midwest recruits (ND, MN, WI, etc), is it safe to say we won't have many from AZ, CA, and FL? Some of them were good, but I think its tough to recruit a player who is thousands of miles away. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 I have a question: How many of these verbal commitments that we have were actually recruited and identified by the new staff. I have a feeling the guys we have committed at this point and time were being recruited by the previous staff even after everything happen in november? So how great of a job is bubba staff doing or are they riding the coat tails of previous recruiting?! On one hand, nice try. I had a chuckle. On the other hand some of the recruits like Studsrud are obvious prospects for any staff in this region. Also Freund, the previous recruiting coordinator, was retained. So is it even possible to say he was riding his own coat tails? Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 I have a question: How many of these verbal commitments that we have were actually recruited and identified by the new staff. I have a feeling the guys we have committed at this point and time were being recruited by the previous staff even after everything happen in november? So how great of a job is bubba staff doing or are they riding the coat tails of previous recruiting?! Alright Mr. Pessimistic, as far as we know, a lot of the recruits were first contacted by the new staff. There were four verbals before Coach Schweigert got the job: DE Greely WR Ferguson DB Harris DB Montague After that, the recruits that are most likely exclusive to Bubba's staff are (5): WR Walker - Michigan connections from time at SIU OL Francis - From Missouri, near SIU; also had offer from SIU OL/DL Harris - from Chicago area; likely picked up on by Bubba & staff DE Dranka - from Chicago area; had interest from SIU CB Carter - from Michigan area that new staff has exploited (see Brandon Walker) Other from Minnesota/Wisconsin that cannot be confirmed (7): QB Studsrud - Minnesota TE Fielder - from Florida but has family connections to ND, so he may have been recruited by previous staff OL Stiner - Wisconsin OL/DL Cieslak - North Dakota LB Dylan Harmston - Wisconsin LB Hudson Walton - Wisconsin K Tauberheim - Minnesota So 5 out of 16 are almost definitively Coach Schweigert's doing. That number could easily be 8 or 9 considering the unknowns. Regardless, the fact that he came in, with only a month before signing day, and assembled this class is impressive any way you spin it. Go Sioux! Quote
Realguy21 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 On one hand, nice try. I had a chuckle. On the other hand some of the recruits like Studsrud are obvious prospects for any staff in this region. Also Freund, the previous recruiting coordinator, was retained. So is it even possible to say he was riding his own coat tails? wow. someone gave you some bad info i think on that 1! Quote
Realguy21 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Alright Mr. Pessimistic, as far as we know, a lot of the recruits were first contacted by the new staff. There were four verbals before Coach Schweigert got the job: DE Greely WR Ferguson DB Harris DB Montague After that, the recruits that are most likely exclusive to Bubba's staff are (5): WR Walker - Michigan connections from time at SIU OL Francis - From Missouri, near SIU; also had offer from SIU OL/DL Harris - from Chicago area; likely picked up on by Bubba & staff DE Dranka - from Chicago area; had interest from SIU CB Carter - from Michigan area that new staff has exploited (see Brandon Walker) Other from Minnesota/Wisconsin that cannot be confirmed (7): QB Studsrud - Minnesota TE Fielder - from Florida but has family connections to ND, so he may have been recruited by previous staff OL Stiner - Wisconsin OL/DL Cieslak - North Dakota LB Dylan Harmston - Wisconsin LB Hudson Walton - Wisconsin K Tauberheim - Minnesota So 5 out of 16 are almost definitively Coach Schweigert's doing. That number could easily be 8 or 9 considering the unknowns. Regardless, the fact that he came in, with only a month before signing day, and assembled this class is impressive any way you spin it. Go Sioux! interesting. as I look at the new list, besides the kids from michigan, i think all of those kids were identified by the last staff before bubba got in place!! I hope those kids can play bigger than what they are because we had undersized guys last year and were not very successful. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 wow. someone gave you some bad info i think on that 1! About what? Quote
geaux_sioux Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 interesting. as I look at the new list, besides the kids from michigan, i think all of those kids were identified by the last staff before bubba got in place!! I hope those kids can play bigger than what they are because we had undersized guys last year and were not very successful. Guess how many of those undersized guys graduated. Quote
Realguy21 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Guess how many of those undersized guys graduated. not enough I dont think. football is and always will be a big man game in alot of ways Quote
Realguy21 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 About what? it never said coach freund was the recruiting coordinator. Obviously part of the staff but not the coordinator Quote
geaux_sioux Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 not enough I dont think. football is and always will be a big man game in alot of ways We graduated undersized lbs DBs a rb and undersized DBs transferred. That's a lot of undersized players no longer on the team. They're replaced by much bigger players. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 it never said coach freund was the recruiting coordinator. Obviously part of the staff but not the coordinator I'm not sure what 'it' is but he was. Quote
Realguy21 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 I'm not sure what 'it' is but he was. ok (if you can honestly say that) Quote
geaux_sioux Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 ok (if you can honestly say that) Are you referring to the roster or something as your 'it' that you referenced? Quote
Realguy21 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 We graduated undersized lbs DBs a rb and undersized DBs transferred. That's a lot of undersized players no longer on the team. They're replaced by much bigger players. you are right and they are bringing in are bigger in some area (which is not hard to do), but still recruiting the "not so big" guy in other positions. Also running the same defense......with also losing All of the offense production from last year. Getting rbs will definitely help (believe me we all have seen) but you have to block up front and have threats on the outside to keep the extra hat out of the box Quote
Realguy21 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Are you referring to the roster or something as your 'it' that you referenced? huh?! Quote
geaux_sioux Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 you are right and they are bringing in are bigger in some area (which is not hard to do), but still recruiting the "not so big" guy in other positions. Also running the same defense......with also losing All of the offense production from last year. Getting rbs will definitely help (believe me we all have seen) but you have to block up front and have threats on the outside to keep the extra hat out of the box Who are the not so big ones? Quote
Realguy21 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Who are the not so big ones? carter, good wieght size, but lacking height dranka, saw this game already. he is a 4-3 de, not a 3-4 de (check out carrothers) the linebacker for mehominee, he going to play olb, (finley, bennett, idowu last year) cieslak, true tweener, not a de (ability) or dt (size), more effective in a 4-3 scheme i think (just my opinion) Quote
UNDColorado Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 The trolls only come around when they feel threatened...keep it up Bubba and staff! Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 interesting. as I look at the new list, besides the kids from michigan, i think all of those kids were identified by the last staff before bubba got in place!! I hope those kids can play bigger than what they are because we had undersized guys last year and were not very successful. Incorrect. You obviously possess a stance that you will not budge on. I have a difficult time considering you a UND supporter/fan/alumni because you have yet to identify a single positive with the program. 1 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 carter, good wieght size, but lacking height dranka, saw this game already. he is a 4-3 de, not a 3-4 de (check out carrothers) the linebacker for mehominee, he going to play olb, (finley, bennett, idowu last year) cieslak, true tweener, not a de (ability) or dt (size), more effective in a 4-3 scheme i think (just my opinion) Carter is 5'10" there's nothing wrong with that if he has good technique. I don't know if you know much about prototypical NFL measurables, but have you seen Brandon Flowers (Chiefs), Darelle Revis (Buccaneers), or Joe Haden (Browns); they're all 5'9" to 5'11" , so with that said, you're being nothing but unrealistically critical when saying Carter isn't tall enough. Dranka has ability; he can play in a 3-4 at 250 lbs. You really don't understand defensive football that well, so let me tell you, a big part of defense is not the system being run (which, yes, is continuing with the 3-4 pressure scheme) but rather the timing of the plays called (when to pressure and how much) and the positioning of the players (put into the best spots to be successful). Bubba and Schmidt will bring defensive experience from the MVFC and get this thing rolling again. And to say Cieslak doesn't have DE ability; you've got to be joking? Judging by your earlier analytics, I don't think you are capable of determining that. You are trolling and, well, clueless. 2 Quote
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