Change the name gaining support

[jodcon]

Oh, I see, the media decides what is "big deal" and what isn't huh?... Nice one!

Of course that's the way it is, the media is all about the big story...and the big story almost always focuses on bad news.

In this instance the big story is the NCAA's imminent crackdown on UND for not bowing down to the rules set forth in the settlement, how it got to that point, and what it will mean for the university.

That SL is filing a lawsuit to try to retain the name will be a one-liner somewhere in the drivel, if mentioned at all. It doesn't have the eyecatching appeal that the media wants, so to them it doesn't matter that much. Sad but true.

[yababy8]

I just did a quick search. I found mentions on time.com, washingtonpost.com, foxnews.com, yahoo.com and many other sites. All mention that the Spirit Lake tribe has filed a lawsuit against the NCAA and that tribe members were an active part of the referendum process. I'm sure that there were many more. Just like I said, no one is hiding that fact. But it hasn't ignited any groundswell of support that you keep looking for.

Let's see the links friend?

You are absolutely full of sh;t! Show me one national article published since Full-of-it-ton's interview where he did his best Duple impersonation which states the fact that the spirit lake tribe started the petitions and that the Tribe is suing the NCAA.

I believe the washington post article identified the Spirit Lake Tribe as "a group from Spirit lake" but it was a page two position near the end of the article.

Just attempt to imagine, for example, that condescending article written by that woman in the Star Tribune including in it those two facts. It would make her assertions laughable, any rationall reader would be compelled to ponder the irony of it all.

To suggest that these two facts do not significantly alter the tenor of these misleading articles is simply not accepting reality!

[82SiouxGuy]

Let's see the links friend?

You are absolutely full of sh;t! Show me one national article published since Full-of-it-ton's interview where he did his best Duple impersonation which states the fact that the spirit lake tribe started the petitions and that the Tribe is suing the NCAA.

I believe the washington post article identified the Spirit Lake Tribe as "a group from Spirit lake" but it was a page two position near the end of the article.

Just attempt to imagine, for example, that condescending article written by that woman in the Star Tribune including in it those two facts. It would make her assertions laughable, any rationall reader would be compelled to ponder the irony of it all.

To suggest that these two facts do not significantly alter the tenor of these misleading articles is simply not accepting reality!

You can be so childish. It really doesn't reflect well on you or your cause when you constantly insult others.

The lawsuit was news when it was filed. People aren't going to keep going back to it every time they write something. They will cover it if something actually happens with the lawsuit.

I was actually going to post a bunch of links for you, but I decided you could go find them yourself. Just Google spirit lake sued ncaa. Stories come up from Nov 1, 2011 into Feb 2012. Besides the sites I mentioned earlier you can add the Boston Globe, Time for Kids, Minnesota Public Radio and ESPN. I'm sure I could add more recognizable names if I wanted to search a little further.

And no, I don't think that it would have changed Ms. Blounts column much to add the lawsuit information. The fact that the information has been out there across the country since the day the lawsuit was announced shows that it isn't the issue that you think it is. People across America don't care what the nickname is for the University of North Dakota athletic teams. They don't care what the NCAA is doing. They don't care that the NCAA is holding 2 states hostage over the Confederate flag and they don't care about sports nicknames. If the country cared about Native American nicknames in college sports it would have been an issue some time between Aug 2005 and now. Like when the University of Illinois had to give up their Chief. That would have gotten a lot more coverage than a nickname in North Dakota.

People also don't care what the tribe is doing. Every town in the country has an issue that someone thinks should be national news. Most of the time it isn't. Sometimes, thanks to the internet, it will show up in places across the country, people will comment on it and then they move on. Because there will be another issue that shows up for them to comment on. But the general public across the country is not going to jump on this issue or make a big deal out of it.

[yababy8]

You can be so childish. It really doesn't reflect well on you or your cause when you constantly insult others.

I just cannot decide if this is ironic hypocracy or hypocritical irony???

I lean toward the latter.

Either way, your post goes from bad to worse in this regard. It is my intention to respond to the rest of your post later but I will throw out a little sneak peak now;

Peope(readers) don't care huh? I guess they care enough to get an article, just not enough to include some really relevant facts (even in stories with a hystory review included in them, which about every one of them did)

I will end with a little journalism writting excersise for you. Don't worry you won't need to actually write an article, you will simply need to add two facts to an already written one.

[82SiouxGuy]

Your original post:

Anybody paying attention to the FACT that not one of the National or out of North Dakota media stories being written regarding the latest round in the Fighting Sioux Name fight have included in them that the Spirit Lake Tribe has sanctioned a lawsuit against the NCAA and that the same group started the petititions?

No biggie, it just changes the tenor of the whole debate; I'm sure it was just an oversight in about a dozen national articles/talkshows regarding our fight; I'm sure they would have accomplished the same goal of making us look like a buck of over zealous;retarded and ignorant sports fans even with that little FACT added to their stories? huh scottM??

I gave you multiple sources for stories that talked about Spirit Lake filing a lawsuit against the NCAA and also being part of the group getting petition signed. Some of the articles were from November when the lawsuit was filed and some from the past couple of weeks. All from sources out of state, including major newspapers across the country, ESPN and Time. That isn't enough for you, now you want every article on the subject to mention these facts.

How about a couple of more facts that they might also want to include in those articles. Like the fact that every Sioux tribe across the country, except Spirit Lake, has officially come out against the nickname. Or the fact that every other tribe in the Great Plains, other than Spirit Lake, is against the nickname. The last vote was 11-0 with 5 tribes missing last spring. The vote previous to that was 15-0 with Spirit Lake missing. Or how about the fact that in the past few months the Governor of North Dakota, approximately 2/3 of the North Dakota Legislature, the State Board of Higher Education, the UND Alumni Foundation and the UND Administration have all come out in favor of changing the nickname. Or how about the fact that some of the people most affected by continuing use of the nickname, including the UND Student Senate, the UND Student Body President and coaches of the 2 biggest athletic programs on campus, have come out in favor of changing the name. Some people would think that all of these are relevant facts.

You don't get to pick and choose which facts are used by people writing articles. They may not find the same things relevant as you do. But your original premise, that no one on a national basis has reported that Spirit Lake is part of the efforts to keep the nickname, is false.