Siouxphan27
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1 hour ago, Redneksioux said:
The owners of the plant and the governor of South Dakota blatantly failed to protect the workers at this plant as well as the safety of South Dakota residents. It didn’t need to shut down due to the Coronavirus but I’m sure there’s a number of measures that could have been taken to prevent 600 plus from being infected. Yet they continued to work shoulder to shoulder, thousands sharing the same break rooms and restrooms, and were urged to come to work while ill.
If this is is too difficult for you to comprehend maybe you’d be a good candidate to work for Smithfield when they ramp production back up.
If you are indeed a fortune teller as you suggest, your time to shine was two months ago; not now. The really sad part is even now after the fact, your ideas still don't make any sense. Choosing corona protection over food. Once again, brilliant.
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51 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:
Oh yes I understand everything is essential, unfortunately more essential than human life.
I just realized I have some Smithfield bacon in the freezer packed in March. Do you want it?
You are correct; when weighing the “value of human life,” as in this case comparing the possibility of getting corona vs dying of starvation, we should choose starvation. All food production should have halted at the first whiff of the virus in the U.S. As you suggest, people should’ve just stopped eating food altogether, eliminating the possibility of getting corona from anyone involved in the food industry. Brilliant.
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6 minutes ago, dynato said:
Lobby your governors. They obviously think COVID is a larger threat to our way of life than your inability to get a haircut.
You need to be able to reasonably tell them why they are wrong and how they fix it for them to make a change that benefits you.
You gotta fight!
For your right!
For a haaaaiiiiiiiirrrrr cut!!
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13 hours ago, Kab said:
Look at the raw milk being dumped
why not use this, make cheese and use it next year at schools,
fruit and vegetables being left in the fields because of low demand
? Can’t be frozen for schools.
Would be a great idea. But the time, money and risk involved to figure out the logistics of how to reroute these perishables, and the unknown timeline of how long the shut down will last is unfortunately resulting in a lot of wasted raw food products.
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1 hour ago, Redneksioux said:
Thanks I missed you guys!
It is a mess but it was a mess that was allowed to happen.
How essential of a business is it now that they are shut down?
So now your argument is that food is not essential, and that darn South Dakota governor should’ve shut it down?
Why don’t you ask your question of the livestock producers that are now sitting with full yards and pot loads of slaughterweight livestock already heading to market. Or the end users who now are suddenly unable to secure product.
You remind me of the type of person who might think that milk originates at a grocery store. Or that the brown cows produce the chocolate.
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15 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:
Would the meat packing plant (food production) have been shut down under a stay at home order?
Nope. Essential business.
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2 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
Research underway in Germany.........
Interesting. I just assumed they threw people in jail who ate ice cream too fast.
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1 hour ago, southpaw said:
And if we only select people who have the letter P in their last name, that's basically like 3 people. That many people died yesterday from eating ice cream too fast and their brain literally froze.
Clearly, these stats show coronavirus isn't a problem.
Love ice cream, hate the brain freeze side effect. Maybe this is an opportunity to shut down the country for months on end until we finally develop a vaccine for ice cream headaches.
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Yeah those Germans have proven they’ll do anything they’re told.
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12 minutes ago, southpaw said:No, I want Americans to start realizing significant changes to the entire system need to be made.
In 2009-10, 12,500 people died in the U.S. from H1N1. What did we learn from that? Clearly nothing, as that many people have died from Covid in the last week.
When there needs to be a swift response, many people were lazy to react and the models bore that out. Now that most states are on board, we are going to see those effects in a couple of weeks. The ones that acted quickly are already seeing their numbers flatten.
The US system isn't designed to care for the average worker. MM loses his job, and that sucks, but what support does he have when that happens? The government shut things down, so the government should provide for those impacted.
We are all going to get a $1,200 check. Those who lost their jobs will get unemployment and an extra $600 per week.
How can the often self-proclaimed "greatest country in the world" only manage to help Americans with a tiny sum of financial support? The small businesses that have had to lay off employees and may not survive this, are getting road blocks left and right.
Corporations that spent millions using the 2008 bailouts to buy back their stock are getting bailed out again, because why? Do we really need to save another horribly run airline that overcharges customers yet gives executives multi-million dollar bonuses each year?
There are thousands of people in Texas trying to get food, while farmers in Wisconsin are dumping out milk because they can't sell it. In what world does that make sense? Only in one where it's always "me first," whether that's an individual who won't bother to stay at home because of "freedom," or a company that lays off thousands of employees because you gotta keep those shareholders happy and you can't dare lose money for a quarter or two, to the politicians who would rather give handouts to the companies that donated to their campaigns than the people that actually do the voting, to the President who is more concerned about the Stock Market and the ratings of his daily pressers than saving the lives of Americans.
Why is it always the same people on the same side who despite the rules here, always choose to go political?
I could say 83% of all corona deaths in the U.S. thus far have occurred in the 24 states with democrat governors, therefore, they must not care at all about their citizens.
But I won’t, because despite that statistic being true, it’s an inaccurate characterization of the efforts and the situation.
Happy Easter one and all!
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3 hours ago, UNDlaw80 said:
To add to that....
Since this country still doesn't have adequate testing available for everybody, some researchers have been analyzing sewage a method of tracking Covid rates. Some interesting initial findings:
Sewage analysis suggests a New England metro area with fewer than 500 COVID-19 cases may have exponentially more
https://abcnews.go.com/US/sewage-analysis-suggests-england-metro-area-fewer-500/story?id=70068740
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6 hours ago, southpaw said:
The US passed Italy today for total deaths from Covid 19, so no, we're not Italy.
We're #1!
If New York was a country, it would have the 6 most deaths in the world.
Having almost 6 times the population of Italy is a pretty important factor I would think.
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I thought some were still saying 3.7% will die.
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32 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:So are going to have a temperature check before entering the Alerus center for Football games. If so I will pass on season tickets. Not drive from Williston to be turned away.
Yes, but I heard they’re giving away free rectal thermometers to the first 1000 fans.
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8 minutes ago, dlsiouxfan said:
Well let's look at what we have and what we don't have twelve weeks into this
Dont' Have
-Wide spread testing (we also have no timeline for getting it in the future)
-Sufficient PPE (nor do we have a system to allocate PPE to support hospitals during outbreaks as evidenced by NYC, Albany GA, Michigan, etc.)
- Sufficient monetary support to individuals and small businesses impacted by the shutdown to prevent foreclosures and other personal financial hardship.
-Sufficient financial support for hospitals to keep them open and fully staffed during the outbreak
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-$500 billion slush fund with virtually no accountability and no concrete plans for deploying
-$390 billion SBA loan program that has turned into a boondoggle with little to no actual funds being disbursed
-Some retroactive tax cuts that will take months for taxpayers to monetize
-Six or seven distributors of PPE that get free products from the federal government that they turn around and sell at an extremely high mark up to the various state goverments
Describing our response as second world is extremely charitable as there are multiple third world countries who've addresses this better than us.
D.L. ….does that stand for Don Lemon?
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1 hour ago, MafiaMan said:
Add me to the list of unemployed as of noon yesterday.
Sorry to hear! Wishing you the best as you navigate through this.
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Just now, Oxbow6 said:
IHME today has projected MN with 456 deaths by 8/4. Peak is around 4/23.
So just a tish under 74,000?
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interesting view on the ventilators
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Ever since this thread started I can’t get this song out of my head-
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1 hour ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said:
Trying to stay on topic here. Just like your guy that got killed by the 5G tower falling over, there's many ways of counting or not counting deaths.
We mentioned earlier, how the Chinese statistics are hard to take seriously.Our statistics also don't show the total picture.
There seems to be an under reporting of deaths.
An estimated additional 180 - 195 deaths per day occurring at home in New York City due to COVID-19 are not being counted in the official figures. "Early on in this crisis we were able to swab people who died at home, and thus got a coronavirus reading. But those days are long gone. We simply don't have the testing capacity for the large numbers dying at home. Now only those few who had a test confirmation *before* dying are marked as victims of coronavirus on their death certificate. This almost certainly means we are undercounting the total number of victims of this pandemic," said Mark Levine, Chair of New York City Council health committee [source]
A study by disease modelers at the University of Texas at Austin states that "Given the low testing rates throughout the country, we assume that 1 in 10 cases are tested and reported. If a county has detected only 1 case of COVID-19, there is a 51%
chance that there is already a growing outbreak underway" [source] [source]
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
“We definitely think there are deaths that we have not accounted for,” said Jennifer Nuzzo, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins University Center for Health Security, which studies global health threats and is closely tracking the coronavirus pandemic.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/05/us/coronavirus-deaths-undercount.html
I can understand how difficult it would be in getting a completely accurate count in the midst of any pandemic. Your links spell out some good reasons as to why. Just look at how the swine flu numbers changed after the fact:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-swineflu-idUSBRE85O1DF20120626
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27 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:
My kids are busy building this today...
Ventilator sold separately?
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I’m off hot water.
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1 hour ago, TheFlop said:
Must be having some trouble with the death count not growing as exponentially as some predicted (5G and non 5G related Corona cases of course). https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/coronavirus-death-toll-americans-are-almost-certainly-dying-of-covid-19-but-being-left-out-of-the-official-count/2020/04/05/71d67982-747e-11ea-87da-77a8136c1a6d_story.html
If you have the virus but feel fine, and a 5G tower falls on your head killing you instantly...what’s the determined cause of death?
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7 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:
My sister and family are on the 1/2G network in Fairfield.
The Original Gigsters.
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2020 Dumpster Fire (Enter at your own risk)
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50% production...what do you plan on doing with the other 50% of cattle and hogs 20 hours off feed, standing in line at the slaughter plant waiting their turn? Let them tip over in line and end up being destroyed instead of slaughtered? Think it through man.
Some jobs, some industries can't just stop on a dime as you suggest.