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  1. 15 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

    So was the comment out of context or was it said sarcastically? Or it should be ignored like your infer. So many messages on how to take an exact quote from the president. It's ok to criticize people for making mistakes and also approving of proper decisions. People on both sides would be better off accepting that idea. 

    I guess put me in the category of I don’t know/care.  It was off the cuff and anyone who has paid attention the last 3.5 years knows his style. 

  2. 3 hours ago, jdub27 said:

    So something like what then? Please clear it up since the White House and President haven't decided which actual defense they are going with.

    First he was taken out of context and now he claims he was being sarcastic. I literally don't have an issue with what he said. He was clearly just rambling about info he had recently gotten and was thinking outloud and took it a bit far. But the fact that he can't just admit that and the people who defend him to no end is as laughable as the media that covers him is.

    Something like, let it go.  

    Not you personally- just my thoughts on people once again making a mountain out of a molehill.   

  3. 35 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

    Well, now he's come out admitted he said it but he was being sarcastic. His words were literally "I see that the disinfectant knocks it out in a minute, is there a way we can do something like that, an injection inside,". 

    And I would think there is a difference between advancing out of the box ideas vs. pondering such things as the President in a national press briefing. As was mentioned previously, Birx looked horrified at where his random train of thought was going.

    I would also say that the media played it up much worse than it was but I'm not sure who's worse....Trump not being able to admit when he's wrong or has made a mistake or the other side, including many media members, who criticizes every single breath he takes even when he does the right thing. Absolutely maddening.

    “something like that” ....  the three key words in your quote everyone who hates the President is suddenly incapable of comprehending.  

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  4. 54 minutes ago, keikla said:

    Just a friendly reminder to not ingest or inject the following: disinfectants such as bleach, lysol, rubbing alcohol.  Also UV lights.

    I’ve been sticking to a steady diet of fish tank cleaner, so I don’t feel the need to try these new unproven remedies. 

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  5. 6 hours ago, dynato said:

    For anyone curious, this is (was) the national strategy for pandemic influenza - implementation plan that president Bush orchestrated. It has a little bit of everything for everyone. 

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/pdf/pandemic-influenza-implementation.pdf

    "Low-cost or sustainable social distancing measures should be introduced
    within the workplace immediately after a community outbreak begins, and businesses should prepare for
    the possibility of measures that have the potential to disrupt their business continuity. Decisions as to
    how and when to implement community measures will be made on a case-by-case basis, with the Federal
    Government providing support and guidance to local officials. "

    It appears this is what is happening currently.   Evidently someone must’ve saved a copy of that old plan. 

  6. 9 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:

    Yeah it seemed a little odd, and then he encouraged people to press their providers to get them tested if they want to be tested. If the testing resources are available, why aren't more LM people getting tested? Why hasn't the mass testing at the state's long term care facilities started yet?

    I agree his comments didn’t make a lot of sense. Maybe he was still celebrating 4/20. 

  7. 1 hour ago, yzerman19 said:

    Who determined if someone was clear of infection?  Did someone have to get sick first or was everyone presumed sick until they had a test to prove otherwise?  This is the slope that I am worried about.  

    The idea of having to prove that you are "healthy" in order to function in society is scary.

    Are we on the road to this?

     

  8. 1 hour ago, southpaw said:

    So during an emerging pandemic you chose to go to a hockey game while sick? I believe others have provided different definitions of the word idiot, but would certainly fit.

     

    If it was known as an emerging pandemic at that time, why then, a week later, was de Blasio, and every other high ranking official in his administration in NYC encouraging everyone to get out and about, go to parades, and live life normally?

     

  9. 1 hour ago, wasmania said:

    In summary:  There are too many variables and too many unknowns to allow us to provide any accurate information other than to encourage the strictest of social distancing measures.  Once there is enough hard data available and the trend becomes obvious, our models will also make sense, and not produce erratically variable daily results.

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  10. 2 hours ago, dynato said:

    I'd suggest you drop the conversation on what additional preventative measures current industries can take. Most are likely doing as much as they can without financially ruining themselves or laying off people. This virus has been found to be asymptomatic the first few days. It is also highly contagious, even when showing no symptoms. Meaning it spreads to many people before it is known to even be an issue. 

    Exactly.  His/her posts are devoid from reality.  But hey I guess if everyone was able to permanently stay at home in a cocoon of bubble wrap, maybe every single outbreak could be avoided.    

  11. 19 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:

    If it’s not preventable then why test? Why close the business down?

    When essential businesses have a number of cases, they are shutting down to help slow down the number of cases at once. (Hint- the business is shutting down AFTER it has a number of employees testing positive.)

    Or would you have preferred all essential businesses being shut down for the last month, resulting in no food, no power, no water,  no sewage plant operation, no emergency services available, etc?    

    How would that have gone over?

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  12. 5 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:

    All LM Wind employees to quarantine for two weeks. It sounds like 110 tested positive and there's about 50 test left to process.

     

    I'm curious what the plan is to prevent this from continuing to happen at these essential businesses. 

    It's not preventable.  

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  13. 2 minutes ago, wasmania said:

    Defending the process of epidemiology is not the same as defending  results. The process is scientific method.  The results are what they are, objectively calculated given the data at hand but innacurate.   If by stating the obvious over and over, that the models are misspecified and wont be as accurate as you want until the data matures is 'defending the models', what do you want, should I join the tantrum and the conspiracy mongering?

    I think people are arguing two different points here.   Some are saying the modeling thus far is useless as it changes dramatically every day.  I don't think those same people are questioning the capability of the epi's; they're just questioning the value of their current info.  Others like yourself are taking great offense to this.  For what reason, I have no idea.  

    Providing useless info over and over again will eventually result in lost confidence, and people will respect their info about as much as the boy who cried wolf.  

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  14. 27 minutes ago, wasmania said:

    not very much use except to build planning scenarios  that need to be updated constantly until the data is known,  and its still being discovered. every day. all over the world.

    So if the models usefulness currently can be described as "not very", what is the point of constantly defending their results?   Instead of the roller coaster of calm and fear they are currently providing, why don't they just wait with the announcements until they can provide some useful stats with a margin of error something less than 1000's of percent?     

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