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  1. 31 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:

    So what was the hoax?

    He was referring to the media, who were accusing him of doing nothing to prepare for the corona virus.  He called it their newest attempt to discredit him, aka their latest hoax.  

    Listen to the entire clip of his statement sometime instead of the carefully edited videos from CNN.  

    Or, just ask yourself, why would he order the first quarantine in 50 years when he ordered no travel from China on February 1st.   And then, on February 28th, call the Corona virus a hoax?   Hint:  the timeline of the main stream media's ridiculous accusations make zero sense.  

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  2. 32 minutes ago, FGHTNSX Hawkey14 said:

    Some assorted thoughts:

    - I like the idea of a black conference champs banner

    - I also wouldn't mind if every team would hang a black banner that just says "2020"

    - The NCAA should establish a precedent for awarding the natty if the championship game can't be played in the future.

    - We were totally going to win :-(

    How about the black banner, illuminated from behind with a soft kelly green light/glow.  You know, like a corona??

  3. 44 minutes ago, southpaw said:

    Here it's because of need. People aren't buying cases full of it and trying to make a buck off it. Most will get a bottle or two and make sure there's more for others. I can still get toilet paper at every store, just not hand sanitizer. 

    The media coverage here has been 100% on how big of a virus this is and how it could shut down the EU. No politics about it. Nobody calling the seriousness of it a hoax. That's the biggest difference between coverage here and in the states on this. Both countries have journalists pointing out how serious this is and yet the response by the people has been incredibly different. 

    Nobody. Ever.  Called it a hoax.   If you can’t get past that simple fact, no wonder you can’t look at any of the work being done to fight corona objectively.

  4. 26 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

    Not really.  

    We’re now at the point where pundits, from both sides of the isle, are starting to put politics aside and realize we may be in for some long days ahead.  Its gonna take a collective effort. 

    Here’s Newt, of all people:

    NEWT GINGRICH: I AM IN ITALY AMID THE CORONAVIRUS CRISIS. AMERICA MUST ACT NOW—AND ACT BIG 

    https://www.newsweek.com/newt-gingrich-i-am-italy-amid-coronavirus-crisis-america-must-act-now-act-big-opinion-1492270

    By putting politics aside, I assume you mean one side will quit blaming the other for a futuristic worst case scenario outcome of a crisis that has barely started, and the other side will not have to waste time defending it's prior decisions to armchair quarterbacks. I sure hope you are right.   Although I have a hunch tonight at 7pm central on CNN you'll be proven wrong.  

  5. 46 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

    Shut down airports?  No.  Should Trump have had the foresight and common sense to properly staff airports before implementing the travel ban?  Absolutely.  This is just the latest of this admin's hastily ordered and thoughtlessly organized policies as it pertains to Covid-19.   

    Mind you, this occurred at customs,  These people, returning from all over the world, were jammed together for hours with no coronavirus protocols in place - then they all entered the country.  Holy crapballs.         

    As for shutting down subways and malls?  Depends on how severe cases are by region I suppose, and it should left to states/localities to decide.  China for instance had hot zones, other areas were relatively covid free.  That said, for several reasons, we have so little information as to the severity and spread of covid-19 in the US.  

     

    Same thing happened at O'Hare

     

    I’ve been hearing for about 3 years now that not allowing anyone into our country for any reason is extremely racist.  So it’s clearly a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation.  

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  6. 16 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

    This isn’t a black/white, all/nothing scenario,  Nor should it be political. This should be about facts, truth and public health.

    Trump is doing a fine job as of late.  I applaud him. :) However his initial actions have left us behind the curve as it pertains to preparation. He systematically dismantled the Office of Pandemic Response and never replaced them. This isn’t ‘fake news’.

    As such, it greatly affected management, communication and chain of command as it pertained to the ability to effectively implement a comprehensive strategy and response to the pandemic. Health security officials were screaming about this 2 years ago.

    So what happened? Covid spread for several weeks, without most people knowing anything, nor did the administration care to do anything about it.  "We have it totally under control.  It's just one person coming from China.  It's going to be just fine." - Trump, Jan 22, 2020

    And here we are, with a lack of diagnostic testing, delay testing labs result, etc.  As I said, continued problems in communication and supply chain.  Recent article from LA: 

     

    Problems mount with coronavirus testing, limiting access and sowing confusion

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-11/coronavirus-testing-kits-lack-key-ingredient-causing-confusion

     

    Thanks.  That’s all I have heard as well, is regarding the test kits.  Seems to be a lot of criticism of the handling of the entire situation if test kits is the only problem.  

     Again, I wish someone would put out their numbers for infections and deaths if we would’ve had test kits earlier.    And then subtract from that number the estimated lives saved by halting travel from China at a time when the WHO admonished the administration for making that decision 

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  7. 1 hour ago, UND1983 said:

    He, as a supposed expert, is openly promoting the "fact" that 1 million people are going to die from this virus and only because of Trump's inaction early on.  Yah, no politics involved at all.  

    Repeat: 1 million people are going to die.   

    Not to worry; if Corona doesn't end up being as bad as these prognosticators suggest, they will be the first to come forward and walk back their critical comments of the handling of it all, and instead praise the President and everyone involved in making the difficult decisions surrounding this crisis.    Right??  ******

     

    Also, i'm curious, with all these experts being able to predict the future under the current administration's handling of the situation, what are their estimates for infections/deaths if someone else would have been running the country, relying on their set of experts to make the hard decisions?  It should be just as easy to come up with those estimates.   No deaths?   March Madness in full swing next week?  #9 hanging in the Ralph a month from now?   Let's hear those estimates.

  8. 44 minutes ago, planetearth said:

    Question of the day:

    What tips the scales for how you deal with the issue:  follow the experts vs thinking for yourself?

    I suppose this is could be a political question too if you want it to be... (though not the intent).

    I think it depends largely on which media outlet employs your "expert."  

  9. 3 hours ago, CMSioux said:

    Interesting article.  I wish it would explain how things would be different if the proposed funding cuts and other actual cuts had never occurred.  More test kits?  Fewer travel or group bans? 

    I see it was written Jan. 31st.  It reads more like someone trying to Monday morning quarterback a crisis, before said crisis happens.  

    I miss the swine flu.  You know, those good old days when an epidemic could occur without half the country finger pointing, manufacturing outrage, and inducing panic by claiming those in charge aren't doing enough before the apocalyptic event even began.    

  10. 1 hour ago, green_sioux said:

    "deliberate misleading statements".????   that's beyond dumb.   enjoy the cult.

    Yes.  Like the one posted here from an MSNBC link, claiming Trump called the corona virus a hoax.  Which is why I replied in the first place. 

    enjoy your kool aid.  

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  11. 1 hour ago, CMSioux said:

    In the midst of this he made sure to remind us that even though the stock market is down more than 20% in a week it is still higher than when he took office - comforting that this is where his priorities and concerns are. 

     I guess he should’ve said the stock market is probably headed towards zero, and anyone not severely weakened by the coronavirus should climb to the top of the nearest building and jump 

  12. 39 minutes ago, green_sioux said:

    wow, that's uniquely dumb.

    “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”
     Issac Asimov

    So by stating facts, and pointing out the deliberate misleading misstatements by cnn and msnbc, I’m uniquely dumb?  

    Very appropriate you chose to quote a science fiction writer  

     

  13. 2 hours ago, SiouxBoys said:

    It’s sad that about half the country still believes outlets like msnbc and cnn.  You would think after they lied everyday for 3 years about Russian collusion, people would get the hint of what their true agenda is. 

    And now in the midst of a global pandemic, their main goal is not to inform and educate, but rather manipulate statements and data all in the goal of trashing everyone tasked with making the difficult decisions.  

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