Siouxphan27
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2 minutes ago, TBR said:
Show me where I've been wrong.
The conversation we were having before you replied was about whether or not President Trump referred to the coronavirus as a hoax. He didn’t. Read the entire thread if you have anymore questions
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13 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:
CNN interviewed Cuomo the other night - you could actually see the disappointment on her face when Cuomo said that he had a good conversation with Trump regarding how things were going in New York.
It’s nice to hear federal and state officials setting differences aside and working together on this. But that doesn’t fit the narrative of conflict and orangemanbad that cnn’s business model is based on.
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2 hours ago, Redneksioux said:
The lengths some will go to defend him considering how wrong he was on this is frightening.
Who had it right? Biden? The democrats? Laughing at trump cutting off travel with China on feb 1st?
Amazing how it doesn’t bother you at all to find out the main stream media has been lying to you over and over again, fanning the flames of fear, all in the name of tearing down the administration. Consequences of over reacting to the virus be damned.
NY Gov Cuomo just said the fear is more dangerous than the virus. I couldn’t agree more.
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9 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
Unemployment rate 3.6 in January. New report estimates, from this crisis and at a minimum certain recession, 7.4M jobs lost from restaurant industry. Hotel industry loses a 1M+ in a few months with more thereafter.
3.6 + 2.5.....6.1%. That's the tip of the iceberg.
What's the over/under timeline when Mnuchin runs out of $1000 checks?
If he does run out and the group gathering restrictions are still in place, there will be some sort of revolt. Millions will be crippled financially during these 8 weeks.
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7 hours ago, TBR said:
Trump didn't directly call the coronavirus a hoax. He refered to Democratic criticism to his early response to the virus a hoax. Given the disconnection between Trump and the recommendations of the chief epidemiologist in his own administration, it's not a stretch at all to say Trump's downplaying of the seriousness of the virus was unwarranted. Splitting hairs between saying the significance of something is improperly minimized and calling it a hoax is also unjustified.
Lol. The lengths some people will go to to avoid admitting they were wrong Unbelievable.
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51 minutes ago, Kermit's Luck said:
Trump compared the coronavirus to a hoax. Is that better than saying he called it a hoax? And by the way, the things he compared it to weren't hoaxes either. They were investigations into his sketchy behavior. The executive branch doesn't get to call any check on their power a hoax - unless everyone is fine with moving closer to a dictatorship. Apparently some of you are - except the tweaker conspiracy theory folks. Definitely my favorite on this site - if I knew how easy it was to find internet wackos, I'd have engaged long ago. Hope you loaded up on tin foil!
I've finally done what I should have done a few days ago when I was first called an idiot for daring to spread the truth on the internet. Here's the entire speech. It's impossible to find a short clip of what Trump actually said, because the main stream media has edited them all to convince their followers that Trump called corona virus a hoax. Starting at the 10 minute mark, listen for about a minute of the speech. Anyone capable of reading and comprehension above a third grade level will clearly understand what he said.
And to anyone so biased due to TDS; don't bother listening to the speech, and keep claiming you know what you're talking about while the rest of us laugh at your ignorance.
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9 minutes ago, Kermit's Luck said:Trump compared the coronavirus to a hoax. Is that better than saying he called it a hoax? And by the way, the things he compared it to weren't hoaxes either. They were investigations into his sketchy behavior. The executive branch doesn't get to call any check on their power a hoax - unless everyone is fine with moving closer to a dictatorship. Apparently some of you are - except the tweaker conspiracy theory folks. Definitely my favorite on this site - if I knew how easy it was to find internet wackos, I'd have engaged long ago. Hope you loaded up on tin foil!
No, he didn't. The fact you don't know that by now tells us all we need to know.
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40 minutes ago, JohnboyND7 said:
The guy I share my "apartment" with is from Wuhan.
Is it a condo? House? Cave?
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1 hour ago, UND1983 said:
I watched CNN tonight and got an expert lesson in Fear Mongering 101. It was amazing. Anyone who watched that show and the "expert" they had on should be convinced that the minimum number of deaths in the U.S. will be "hundreds of thousands, if not millions" and the administration should have been more like Hong Kong in their reaction.
The entire show all negative, all doomsday.
That’s where the panic and misinformation posted online originates. I just read an article posted today that again mentioned ‘Trump called the coronavirus a hoax.’ 18 days after they deliberately misquoted him, they’re still pushing that lie, still pushing that narrative to lead people to think we’re all gonna die, all for the sake of maybe gaining a few votes. Pathetic.
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9 minutes ago, dlsiouxfan said:
If a person presents with symptoms and is negative for the flu and other diseases can they be tested for Covid19? Can nurses, doctors, EMT's and other personnel who are exposed to Covid19 be tested? They absolutely cannot in most metropolitan areas and absolutely cannot be tested in the state of Minnesota per the Minnesota Department of Health's statement in the Star tribune today. That's unacceptable.
Also I call BS on your statement that insulting people who disagree with your opinions is what led to Trump's election. Insulting his political opponents is all that he does as evidenced by him going after the Democratic Governor's of Michigan, Illinois, and Washington for defying him politically. If he'd devoted one-tenth of his attention to this epidemic as he does to insulting people on Twitter and at his hate rally's we wouldn't be in this place.
Just curious- what place would we be in?
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23 minutes ago, dlsiouxfan said:
We wouldn't have this lockdown situation if the country would have had access to testing earlier and had testing readily available. We didn't have access to testing and do not have access to testing now because Trump declined the WHO's test. He declined the tests because he figured positive tests would be bad for his re-election. He also fired most of the people with experience handling something like this in 2018 and hampered the work of those left behind.
You can try and blame this on the media all you want but we're here because this administration is incompetent and criminally corrupt and you're not going to get 60% of this country to turn a blind eye to it just because you have.
He did not fire most of the people working on “something like this” in 2018. There was a restructuring. A couple people who were there then, and are still there now, have recently spoken out against these ridiculous claims. But I wouldn’t expect you to know that since you probably also think Trump called it all a hoax a month after he banned travel from China
What were your thoughts on Obama, when a much less deadly virus killed over 12,000 Americans 10 years ago?
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1 hour ago, yzerman19 said:
I’m still at a loss trying to understand why this is so different than H1N1 flu. I understand trying to mitigate an explosion, but you can avoid dying in a car crash or a plane crash by never leaving home.
H1N1 wasn’t politicized by the main stream media. H1N1 didn’t involve having the main stream media putting the fear of God into people, creating overblown panic, resulting in a domino effect of government and businesses cratering and taking drastic measures.
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42 minutes ago, MrEdway said:
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Quit whining and do what YOU need to do.
I’m sorry. I assumed the people whining about every little detail done/not done while blaming Trump for everything regardless of outcome, were the ones whining.
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16 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
CDC just announced a recommendation of no events of more of 50 for the next 8...…...EIGHT weeks!
When is trump going to start taking this seriously ????!!
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1 hour ago, Redneksioux said:
Been stuck under a rock I take it?
it was a matter of days ago that trump said this is nothing to worry about. Now he is recommending to not gather in groups larger than 10 and to stay home.
It was also a few days ago that Fox News was defending trump’s stance and making jokes about social distancing. Now they are admitting they were wrong and practicing social distancing themselves.
Do we start start taking this seriously finally?
Have a good day everyone and please stay safe!
Good leaders know enough to not stoke panic and fear. Would you rather he announced the apocalypse was imminent?
You should get your remote control fixed. There are plenty of clips out there of CNN, MSNBC, etc. reporters making fun of both the social distancing plan and also making fun of Trump’s China travel ban.
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7 minutes ago, UND1983 said:
What?
What I don’t get is why isn’t the virus fully contained and everyone cured in all countries not headed by Trump?
Also, North Dakotans are clearly not taking this seriously with the skyrocketing infection and death rates maintaining at 1 and 0.
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10 hours ago, yzerman19 said:
I respect your opinion as your right. I disagree on the accountability you describe. As partial and incomplete information comes in, you trust your people and make the best calls you can. Is FDR accountable for Pearl Harbor? Is Jimmy Carter accountable for AIDS?
Test kits, test kits, test kits- Not the damn issue. It was how aggressive to respond. It isn’t a simple CDC public health question. Way more variables and considerations.
Thus far we’re looking at the equivalent deaths of lightning strikes. If it ends up being twice H1N1, was it worth blowing up the economy? Less than H1N1? We’ll never know, because we won’t know what would’ve happened without intervention.
end of my rant- peace brother- good luck out there to you and your family.
Great post. Great examples given with FDR and Carter. I would add Obama and 12000 Americans dead from Swine Flu. It’s unfortunate that just 10 years later, one side has decided to make a serious health threat political.
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5 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:
You’re the one being political now.
That the democrats certainly would've screwed this up doesn't let Trump off the hook. This is not an either/or scenario. It’s about accountability. The buck stops at the top no matter who is in office. Like I said, Trump did a fantastic job shutting down travel to China, but he screwed up royally in other areas that has left us woefully unprepared.
But whatever, I don’t expect the Trump cult followers to be able to admit this. Same way left wing radicals wouldn't either in the same situation.
I think it's time to move on from this topic though. It's overkill. Everybody has basically had their say.
You’re blaming trump for the extent of the outbreak, but I am the one being political. Lol.
Do you remember all the fear mongering, panic, and political outrage during the swine flu epidemic that killed 12,000 Americans?
Yeah, neither do I.
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3 hours ago, UNDlaw80 said:
What's being implemented now should've been done much earlier. Times of war, disease, etc. is when the federal government is needed.
Trump's initial response was slow, muddled, lacked communication and chain of command; mainly due to 1. Trump not taking it seriously, 2. His dismantling of the Office of Pandemic Response. Health security officials were screaming about the risks of cutting that program 2 years ago. It wasn't until the stock market tanked did Trump start taking this situation seriously. That failure is most abundantly clear the lack of testing. We've tested a fraction of our people compared to other countries.
Take note, testing is the basic cornerstone of fighting any new disease. We're navigating blind without it.
Holding our public officials accountable shouldn't be an issue of politics in times like these. But, as Trump stated himself, he could shoot somebody on 5th Ave and not lose any votes. Unfortunately, these are the times we're in, on both sides of the isle.
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So to recap, Trump wasn't taking it seriously early enough, even though the media and democrats laughed at him for shutting off travel from China in early February. You say he didn't take it seriously until the stock market fell, which just happened; and btw it's currently not early February.
Just out of curiosity I would genuinely like to know how do you, and others, perform the mental gymnastics required to believe the same people laughing at Trump for banning travel from China would've spent the remainder of February stocking our country full of test kits and everything else necessary to essentially prevent any outbreaks here in the U.S.?
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33 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:
Instead of actually taking measures to protect US citizens, he was out calling out democrats and the media as this being their new hoax. And you see no problems with that?
The delay of preventing international flights coming into our country allowed more infected people to come in. In my opinion more incoming flights should have been prevented and much earlier.
And no I wouldn’t have been upset if we accepted the test kits that were offered by the WHO. But the cat is now out of the bag. It’s here and it has spread more than we know.
The lengths you are going to defend your political views are laughable. I understand this is not a political site so maybe you should set your political views aside and look at what is best to protect your family right now and I will do the same.
I am not protecting the president. I’m separating the facts from your fiction.
My only viewpoint is anyone who believes this is a serious, worldwide pandemic and is trying to make political hay out of the situation by second guessing everything, is pathetic.
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20 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:So was it a hoax?
Trump kept the blinders on for much too long. So many in the Republican Party stayed behind him and kept the message this is nothing to worry about. This all started when he declined to accept test kits from the WHO, a grave mistake that will likely result in the lives of many US citizens. We were assured for weeks by too many in the government that this was nothing to worry about. And now we are in scramble mode.
I provided you with the facts of the ‘hoax’ situation. when proven wrong, instead of admitting you were misled and wrong, you just move the goal posts. Neither you or the president can admit when you’re wrong.
The WHO and democrats admonished the president for shutting off travel from China on February 1st. It turned out to be an excellent decision. If the U.S. would’ve taken all those test kits, you would’ve complained orangemanbad took resources away from 3rd world countries that do not have the ability to manufacture their own test kits.
This is Siouxsports, not a political site. If you want to continue spreading lies about hoaxes, and bitching and complaining about things you have no idea if they will make a difference, go ahead.
Just don’t breathe on anyone.
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I wonder what that guy sitting alone in Ward county thinks of all this.
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2 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
5 days? WTF is going to change in 5 days.
Joe and Bernie will have it all figured out by then.
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Spit it out, Doug.
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