Siouxphan27
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2 minutes ago, Old Fella said:
AND?
And there’s plenty of room in the Fargodome for that one old dude to get well.
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11 minutes ago, dynato said:
Not believing/trusting the numbers in this case means having a bias that the physical death count being reported by medical professionals is too high and that the death being experience by COVID should instead be reallocated to different categories as the primary source of death.
Even after new York decided to lump all unattended deaths into the covid category, the total deaths are still trending well below the early doomsday estimates.
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4 minutes ago, dynato said:
To be fair, you never trusted the numbers to begin with, despite input from medical professionals in this forum and validation from our president.
Not to speak for him, but if I recall Cratter never believed the doomsday death projections. It's looking like he was correct.
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6 minutes ago, Cratter said:
It's almost as if someone decided to switch how coronavirus deaths were counted all of a sudden...
It's almost as if the U.S. epicenter of the virus decided to call all deaths corona related, regardless of any evidence...
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5 minutes ago, southpaw said:
They said probably. I know this is difficult, fourth grade stuff, but here's pretty, moving pictures to explain:
If only running a meat processing plant was as easy as playing with ping pong balls...
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15 hours ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said:
Only tangentially relevant, but still...
Maybe I'm alone on this, but I don't ever recall getting horny opening a container of margarine.
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1 hour ago, Redneksioux said:
Not gonna argue with this. Smithfield's Sioux Falls plant being shut down indefinitely sure isn't going to help the situation. If they would have acknowledged and addressed what changes had to be made in their plants months or even weeks ago they'd still probably be operating at some level in SD. Instead we still have people arguing that we aren't New York or Chicago. Well it's getting too late for that argument.
How do you know this?
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6 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said:
Going to have to have the mating hogs practice self distancing.
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4 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:
It's no surprise this happened in South Dakota with the way their governor has touted on Fox News how well their state is doing and that they are not New York.
She continues to defend her stance saying they are not Chicago even though the Sioux Falls infection rate per capita has exceeded Chicago's.
Unfortunately this attitude is passed down to the employer level and what's done is done.
Maybe we can get something positive out of this and regulations will prevent this from happening over and over again, probably not in South Dakota though.
I don't know the right number but I can tell you that I'd take 50% over 0%.
Can you explain why other plants in other states not run by Republican governors are also experiencing outbreaks in their large meat processing plants?
Could you point me to the scientific study proving that cutting capacity to 50% would’ve prevented the spreading of the virus?
I’ll hang up and listen.
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4 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said:
There were two semi loads of Canadian hogs that came down hwy #2 from the west yesterday, went through GF and headed south on I29, hopefully not Sioux Falls.
Hopefully the industry can work together and reroute to other plants that can hopefully handle the extra workload. I've heard slaughter weight piggies are in limbo in many barns right now, getting a little fatter. Unfortunately it's creating a bottleneck on piglets heading to those barns.
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1 minute ago, Redneksioux said:
Wouldn't 50% be better than 0%?
Again Nostradamus, you have all the answers now. Where were you before the outbreak began? Why didn't you specifically warn everyone that out of all the food processing plants in the United States, Sioux Falls Smithfield was going to be the one to get hit hardest with corona, forcing a shut down?
Or are you naïve enough to think all food processing plants across the nation could've cut down to 50% production to protect against a corona outbreak without causing severe food shortages?
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51 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:
It’s unrealistic that a business change their model to run at say 50% production in order to allow some social distancing and extra cleaning to be done? It’s unrealistic for an employer to implement an if you are sick policy to stay home rather than forcing sick to show up to work?
What’s realistic is that they are now shut down indefinitely.
If the governors can force certain businesses to be shut down they surely can implement some policies for employers.
50% production...what do you plan on doing with the other 50% of cattle and hogs 20 hours off feed, standing in line at the slaughter plant waiting their turn? Let them tip over in line and end up being destroyed instead of slaughtered? Think it through man.
Some jobs, some industries can't just stop on a dime as you suggest.
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1 hour ago, Redneksioux said:
The owners of the plant and the governor of South Dakota blatantly failed to protect the workers at this plant as well as the safety of South Dakota residents. It didn’t need to shut down due to the Coronavirus but I’m sure there’s a number of measures that could have been taken to prevent 600 plus from being infected. Yet they continued to work shoulder to shoulder, thousands sharing the same break rooms and restrooms, and were urged to come to work while ill.
If this is is too difficult for you to comprehend maybe you’d be a good candidate to work for Smithfield when they ramp production back up.
If you are indeed a fortune teller as you suggest, your time to shine was two months ago; not now. The really sad part is even now after the fact, your ideas still don't make any sense. Choosing corona protection over food. Once again, brilliant.
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51 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:
Oh yes I understand everything is essential, unfortunately more essential than human life.
I just realized I have some Smithfield bacon in the freezer packed in March. Do you want it?
You are correct; when weighing the “value of human life,” as in this case comparing the possibility of getting corona vs dying of starvation, we should choose starvation. All food production should have halted at the first whiff of the virus in the U.S. As you suggest, people should’ve just stopped eating food altogether, eliminating the possibility of getting corona from anyone involved in the food industry. Brilliant.
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6 minutes ago, dynato said:
Lobby your governors. They obviously think COVID is a larger threat to our way of life than your inability to get a haircut.
You need to be able to reasonably tell them why they are wrong and how they fix it for them to make a change that benefits you.
You gotta fight!
For your right!
For a haaaaiiiiiiiirrrrr cut!!
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13 hours ago, Kab said:
Look at the raw milk being dumped
why not use this, make cheese and use it next year at schools,
fruit and vegetables being left in the fields because of low demand
? Can’t be frozen for schools.
Would be a great idea. But the time, money and risk involved to figure out the logistics of how to reroute these perishables, and the unknown timeline of how long the shut down will last is unfortunately resulting in a lot of wasted raw food products.
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1 hour ago, Redneksioux said:
Thanks I missed you guys!
It is a mess but it was a mess that was allowed to happen.
How essential of a business is it now that they are shut down?
So now your argument is that food is not essential, and that darn South Dakota governor should’ve shut it down?
Why don’t you ask your question of the livestock producers that are now sitting with full yards and pot loads of slaughterweight livestock already heading to market. Or the end users who now are suddenly unable to secure product.
You remind me of the type of person who might think that milk originates at a grocery store. Or that the brown cows produce the chocolate.
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15 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:
Would the meat packing plant (food production) have been shut down under a stay at home order?
Nope. Essential business.
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2 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
Research underway in Germany.........
Interesting. I just assumed they threw people in jail who ate ice cream too fast.
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1 hour ago, southpaw said:
And if we only select people who have the letter P in their last name, that's basically like 3 people. That many people died yesterday from eating ice cream too fast and their brain literally froze.
Clearly, these stats show coronavirus isn't a problem.
Love ice cream, hate the brain freeze side effect. Maybe this is an opportunity to shut down the country for months on end until we finally develop a vaccine for ice cream headaches.
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Yeah those Germans have proven they’ll do anything they’re told.
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12 minutes ago, southpaw said:No, I want Americans to start realizing significant changes to the entire system need to be made.
In 2009-10, 12,500 people died in the U.S. from H1N1. What did we learn from that? Clearly nothing, as that many people have died from Covid in the last week.
When there needs to be a swift response, many people were lazy to react and the models bore that out. Now that most states are on board, we are going to see those effects in a couple of weeks. The ones that acted quickly are already seeing their numbers flatten.
The US system isn't designed to care for the average worker. MM loses his job, and that sucks, but what support does he have when that happens? The government shut things down, so the government should provide for those impacted.
We are all going to get a $1,200 check. Those who lost their jobs will get unemployment and an extra $600 per week.
How can the often self-proclaimed "greatest country in the world" only manage to help Americans with a tiny sum of financial support? The small businesses that have had to lay off employees and may not survive this, are getting road blocks left and right.
Corporations that spent millions using the 2008 bailouts to buy back their stock are getting bailed out again, because why? Do we really need to save another horribly run airline that overcharges customers yet gives executives multi-million dollar bonuses each year?
There are thousands of people in Texas trying to get food, while farmers in Wisconsin are dumping out milk because they can't sell it. In what world does that make sense? Only in one where it's always "me first," whether that's an individual who won't bother to stay at home because of "freedom," or a company that lays off thousands of employees because you gotta keep those shareholders happy and you can't dare lose money for a quarter or two, to the politicians who would rather give handouts to the companies that donated to their campaigns than the people that actually do the voting, to the President who is more concerned about the Stock Market and the ratings of his daily pressers than saving the lives of Americans.
Why is it always the same people on the same side who despite the rules here, always choose to go political?
I could say 83% of all corona deaths in the U.S. thus far have occurred in the 24 states with democrat governors, therefore, they must not care at all about their citizens.
But I won’t, because despite that statistic being true, it’s an inaccurate characterization of the efforts and the situation.
Happy Easter one and all!
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3 hours ago, UNDlaw80 said:
To add to that....
Since this country still doesn't have adequate testing available for everybody, some researchers have been analyzing sewage a method of tracking Covid rates. Some interesting initial findings:
Sewage analysis suggests a New England metro area with fewer than 500 COVID-19 cases may have exponentially more
https://abcnews.go.com/US/sewage-analysis-suggests-england-metro-area-fewer-500/story?id=70068740
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6 hours ago, southpaw said:
The US passed Italy today for total deaths from Covid 19, so no, we're not Italy.
We're #1!
If New York was a country, it would have the 6 most deaths in the world.
Having almost 6 times the population of Italy is a pretty important factor I would think.
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