zonadub
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Stupid question, 'cause I don't know the answer...
When end the defense is stacking against the run, is Rudolph's offensive scheme so rigid that the quarterback is not allowed to call an audible? Shouldn't the quarterback recognize the defense and change the play at the line of scrimmage?
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How not to choose a mascot? How about not changing our mascot from "Native Americans" to 'White Men on Horses."
the Roughriders at San Juan Hill included Native Americans.
btw, how does that fit with Roosevelt's supposed racism?
edit... Also, I didn't know about this one - the siege of Santiago!
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Well first, it's called an Offensive coordinator. Second, I don't think there are any limitations on where UND coaches open a search although they obviously have connections in the midwest.
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I thought the thread title was a clever play on words about the offensive play calling being offensive, as in the op was offended by the lack of imagination being used. Seems to be a reasonable extrapolation of his intent.
The play calling has been too predictable and needs a change of pace... First down plunge into the middle of the line, second down off tackle or sweep, third down desperation pass leads to fourth down punt unless you shake things up.
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Last day of the vote and Nodaks is making a push on the exit poll on SS. Is that a reflection a surge in the official tally?
doubt that either North Stars or even Sundogs actually come out as low and also think there will be more support for Fighting Hawks outside this forum. Will it be enough to displace Nodaks or Roughriders? My guess is that this forum would tend to be more aligned with the hockey team's wishes , or any of the athletes for that matter, than the other 75,000 or so people eligible to vote. Are any of the names strong enough among the casual fan or even the interested alumni to get them to actually take the time to make sure they can vote?
Since the email addresses in the UND.edu domain are the automatic votes, the preferences of the students and faculty will play a larger part in the final tally. With the students, it sounds like they are leaning toward Fighting Hawks iirc, while I expect that the faculty may be more Sundog supporters than most of the public.
Many alumni out of the area will more than likely not be following the debate closely enough to have heard the hockey team references or the discussions about the dozens of other _____ Hawk names and other reasons covered on the forum. The alumni who are hockey supporters more than other sports may be more likely to vote than the general casual fan, but they may prefer the North Stars name, especially those in the cities.
The Roughrider reference as the state nickname, even if it's unofficial, will have more support from the out of region alumni, the question is, will they vote?
so, predicting an upset ... Fighting Hawks will sneak into second place ahead of Nodaks, Sundogs may hit double digits, but barely. North Stars will also pick up support, but not enough.
Run-off between Fighting Hawks and Roughriders. In the end, the Hawks pick up the anti-Roughrider vote and the new name you hear will be University of North Dakota Fighting Sioux Hawks.
btw- voted Roughriders
have made no secret of my dislike for Nodaks
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Didn't take long for the Nodak'ers to realize that it was a 'poor' name, so now let's add Fighting to make it seem less (I want to say fugly, but let's go with) lame. Nodaks alone is a less than insipiring name, so if, God forbid, Nodak does get the nod, by all means, let's add Fighting as soon as we can.
Sorry about the negative and derisive post, but imho Nodaks is absolutely the worst option left. I would much rather see any of the other names win.
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Maybe this is the long con?
UND chooses Roughriders for name.
They incorporate Roosevelt into the marketing/logo/etc.
The Native American's already upset that the NCAA and UND removed Fighting Sioux start protesting at UND events and march on Indianapolis to draw attention to the hypocrisy and racist insensitivity of the NCAA and by force UND.
NCAA acquiesces and orders UND to return to Fighting Sioux.
Profit!
Sweet!
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... It is also free from all possible offensive or derogatory connotations, so we'll be free of that nonsense once and for all. It also permits us to be creative with respect to coming up with a unique mascot/logo design.
Seriously? You haven't seen the Nod!cks references?
As for logos - besides the interlocking letters and the hick farmer portrayed in the Forum, does not seem that there are a lot of options for Nodaks logos ... Maybe a lightbulb guy holding an electric shock.
Not it advocating it, but I am advocating it... Turn someone like Bennett Brien or someone with his talent loose and confident they can come up with something. That said, the Cedar Rapids Rough Ridets horse head has some wonderful possibilities, as does the Roosevelt profile. Turn Mr Brien loose and see what he can do with those.
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Have friends that are Michigan grads. They do not follow hockey at all. Only the major sports - football and basketball. Same with the Notre Dame grads we know.
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UND Nodaks, Fighting Nodaks, or just Nodaks doesn't sound so bad. Did you ever ask people if they were going to the North Dakota Fighting Sioux hockey game? or did you ask them if they were going to the Sioux game? Did you cheer "Go North Dakota Fighting Sioux!" from your seat? or did you cheer "Go Sioux!" You can make it try to sound ridiculous, but it does have to be. I was always in the camp of just remaining UND, and this seems to be the closest option, but it gives the school something they can still brand and tie a logo to.
I'm really leaning towards Nodaks, and know several others who have moved their picks to this name. It almost seems like in the past there was some hesitation over this name because people didn't know if it was really even going to be in the mix. It has definitely picked up steam though. Roughriders wouldn't be terrible and I could live with Fighting Hawks (Boring)...
Freudian slip?
it does sound ridiculous, if you are honest with yourself.
Nodak is ok for an electric co-op or a hardware store, but just doesn't feel right as an athletic team nickname.
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No matter how bad you think Sundogs is, it is infinitely better than Nodaks.
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Haven't read through the thread to know if this has been mentioned already, but there was so much buffering on the Eversport webcast yesterday that it was almost unwatchable. Wondering if anyone else had the same problem.
I finally gave up on the web stream when the score was 31 - 22. Checked the score when I shut down eversport and UND was behind 37 - 31 with just under 5 minutes in the game. Must have been half a quarter behind or more.
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UND is not the worst offense in the league, if that's what you're implying via certain statistics. The worst offense in the league would not allow the team to be leading the conference in total wins. UND doesn't need to put up huge yards and points when they have the lead and a top ranked defense. If you look at offensive turnovers and rushing yards per game, which is actually complementary towards the defense, UND is one of the better teams in the Big Sky Conference.
Stats can lie if you're not interpreting them correctly.
who was that economics prof back in the 70's who assigned the book "How to lie with statistics"?
all I remember is "everybody want Cadillac". (70's are a really foggy memory)
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My post was about fan conduct and didn't have anything to do with buildings or hosts. The regional was an NCAA event, regardless of where it was held. Sic suggested that the NCAA was waiting to pounce on UND as a direct result of fan conduct at NCAA events and would do anything within its rule making power to do so.
I merely pointed out that not only did the NCAA not make a peep about the '15 regional in Fargo -- which happened to have been hosted by UND and where nothing but Sioux could be seen or heard from floor to rafter -- they went ahead and rewarded Fargo and UND with another regional in two years' time.
There are only two possibilities: (1) Sic is absolutely right and '17 is the biggest trap in NCAA history; or (2) the NCAA really doesn't intend to do a damn thing about Sioux-related fan conduct now that it is no longer UND's official nickname. My money is on the latter.
there it is ... money
the NCAA craves sold-out venues.
I dont support Roughriders, or even Hawks, or <gulp> North Stars or Sundogs or even (heaven forbid) Nodaks because what the NCAA might do or not do, it's just because no nickname or the next best/worse solution of Nodaks just does not make sense to me.
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Some good notes on the most recent commitment from Tom Miller. Thanks Tom.
http://millersports.areavoices.com/2015/10/08/und-commit-no-11-still-a-soft-verbal/
Wyoming? Watch for Bohl to pull out all his tricks to get this guy, if only to take him away from UND.
is there a reasonable reason why Nevermann was not allowed to play for UND other than the vindictive retributuion Bohl felt he could inflict on UND by denying an athlete the opportunity to play starting with game #2?
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Before you say it, yes I understand UND is the host
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Yes, but the NCAA just hosted a mens hockey regional in Fargo a few months ago. And unless I'm mistaken they didn't so much as ask a "Sioux" fan to clear the aisle.
And then, inexplicably, the NCAA just awarded a 2017 regional to…can you believe this…Fargo.
So you'll have to excuse people for not running scared from the NCAA right now.
Scheel's Arena is not the REA
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One guess one guess could be that ASU sees themselves as more similar to the B1G schools than a conference made up of a Big Sky, a couple MAC, a couple Summit, a couple Northern Sun and a D-III schools. The rust belt residents would probably enjoy a trip to Arizona during the winter, so may travel better to Tempe than to Madison.
That, plus, it will be much easier to win in the B1G than in the NCHC. (see Penn State). :)
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Wentz's uncle can probably enlighten us more, but UND did not have a chance at Carson Wentz. His brother played baseball at NDSU and it seemed that he was always headed there. Don't know (again deferring to family) if Wentz had offers from B1G or Big 12 schools, but didn't seem like UND was ever really in the conversation, Muss or not.
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Wow! Pull up the ESPN FCS standings page and who is the first team you see? The #1 team in the Big Sky Conference, that's who... NORTH DAKOTA!
Did not think that would happen so soon after Mussman's departure. Congratulations Sioux football, coaches and players.
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I wouldn't worry about ending up with Teddy as a logo. Rough Riders is not on the ballot. Roughriders is,
Not saying the logo wouldn't end up a white guy though.
An original Roughrider next to a Nokota horse...
(not sure about the saguaro cactus in the background though. betcha didn't notice that
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Picture is from the Nokota Conservancy.
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how was the quality? Were you on wifi or 4g?
Curious because I am supposed to go to the Oregon at Colorado game Saturday night but would likely miss the game if i cant use my phone. thanks!
picture quality was good, but froze up a couple of times. Audio kept going. Was on the golf course - 3G.
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Watch BigSky had an iphone app. Do you know if eversport does?
not an app, but just went to the eversport.tv website thru safari and was able to watch on my phone.
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that hawk with the headdress logo is too obvious and doesn't really look like a bird, but I think something could be done that resembles more of a hawk's natural look with feathers, that still reminds/resembles the shape and coloring of the old logo without the PCers crying "fowl".
I don't think white guys toting guns on horseback will pass the PC test.
The Rough Riders were a diverse bunch of men consisting of cowboys, gold or mining prospectors, hunters, gamblers, Native Americans and college boys.
They were not all white guys.
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I don't understand why one of the art classes hasn't had a logo design assignment. Doesn't UND have an Art and Design Department?
Predict the outcome
in UND Nickname
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off by a little, thought Roughriders would maintain the lead over Fighting Hawks this round, but looks like the tenor of the prediction may be spot in on.