zonadub
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If this was the logo, I would actually consider voting RR!
has as good of a chance as this
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So, from the ongoing discussion, our best chances of getting into playoffs occur under the following scenario:
UND wins
PSU beats EWU
MSU beats MU
SUU beats NAU (not sure about this one, correct me if wrong)
Checking the schedule, one could spend all day next Saturday watching things unfold. MSU/MU play noonish/early afternoon. PSU/EWU and SUU/NAU start late afternoon. UND plays Poly at 8 PM Central.
How long has it been since Montana, Montana State and Eastern Washington were all out of the playoffs? Maybe the sun comes up in the west that morning.
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Uff Da ...... the future?
yeah....... No.
Sundogs is already out.
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If only the results here are/were reflective of a shift in the actual vote.
85% - 15% after 24 hours...
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I decided not to work today, and will get to catch the first game. Thought there should be a thread.
As a former Wolford High student, I'll be voting for the team who was involved in my first nickname change, the North Prairie Cougars!
So that's the background for the Wolves nickname! takes me back to simpler times...
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Great sweep over Idaho tonight!
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assuming the same voting pool, 83.65% of nodaks voters would need to choose RR over FH. Not gonna happen.
out of curiosity, I ran the numbers of both votes against the finalists...
in the first vote, out of the votes cast for the 3 semi-finalists, the percentages were within a couple points of where they ended up in the runoff vote:
43% Fighting Hawks
29% Roughriders
28% Nodaks.
Then if you cut that to only the voters who voted for either Hawks or Roughriders, it comes to to:
60% Fighting Hawks
40% Roughriders.
If you consider only the votes cast for the two finalists during the runoff, it came out to:
62% Fighting Hawks
38% Roughriders.
Even though there were thousands more voters, the percentages stayed relatively consistent.
so, my conclusion is that there will have to be a monumental shift of voters OR a huge influx of new voters to defeat Fighting Hawks.
Oh F'Hawk.
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145 votes this time vs 241. Approx 60% of the original exit poll. Will the actual vote also see the same decline? Which nickname will suffer from the largest drop off? Which one will benefit?
Since the vote closes at noon, will the results be made public by close of business today?
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Added tto not replaced by. Hence the comparison to Mizzou or Ole Miss.
I'm looking to get through this "adopt a new name" B.S. process as painlessly as possible. Most people agree that our choices suck. Nodaks doesn't suck as a secondary nickname as the schools mentioned use two names and as we have used Nodaks in the past.
We can add another name later and do it the right way. If for nothing else to do it without the help of the Kelley admin.
... many of the Roughrider supporters are voting for something rather than against something. That speaks volumes. Lets face it, we were never going to get a consensus no matter which nickname we would pick...
Roughriders has the potential once people get over their biases to other names.
tnt has a valid point. Roughriders has been my first choice through this whole process. I don't think I'm the only one.
Unlike Nodak supporters who were Fighting Sioux (despite potential sanctions) forever, than only North Dakota, and now Nodak. And on top of that, many Nodak supporters want it only temporarily, so that yet another name can be selected.
That sounds like a great plan, let's let this hang over UND's head for another 10 years.
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Nobody anywhere has the name Nodaks! Hawks and RR on the other hand......
Go Nodaks!
there might be a reason for that... see thread title.
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Hope everyone that voted for Roughriders returns and votes again. Voter fatigue will take a toll on turnout, as will apathy as many favorites have been eliminated already.
Expect that the students will again vote for Fighting Hawks, despite efforts to educate them about the lack of originality and the logo passed around last month net being the real replacement logo.
Still cannot wrap my head around the Nodaks moniker. Just feels wrong. I think Petey is misguided, and this nickname will be with UND for a long time, so please think about that when you cast your vote. While Nodaks may be a shortened version of remaining North Dakota, it doesn't sound right as a permanent nickname for the flagship school of the state. As has been posted before, it's ok for a North Dakota based insurance company (who by the way sponsors Bison broadcasts, while Farmer's Union Insurance sponsors UND, iirc), an electric co-op or a retail hardware store, it just doesn't fit for the permanent nickname of UND.
Generic bird nicknames don't reflect strongly for a flagship school, either, so might have a tough time if there is yet another round, and may become another victim of voter fatigue if Rouhriders is eliminated this round.
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And if Hawks or Riders wins we are all at the mercy of an already untrusted leadership to somehow produce a logo that's good enough to elevate a mediocre nickname to greatness.
Nodaks, on the other hand already has a built-in logo, the interlocked ND.
Kelly will have retired by the time a new logo is commissioned. On the other hand, pretty sure Faison will still be at UND.
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Yeah I've been a life long hunter but dislike big game & killing just to say u got one as a trophy
Y'all are applying 21st century political correctness to this process (as you are with some of the quotes attributed to TR). Wild game trophy hunting was not considered to be a negative circa 1900. Political correctness is what got us into this mess in the first place, and now you are aligning with the PC crowd in your arguments.
Edit: if you deer hunt for that trophy buck, you aren't trying to get the tasty meat, those big guys are not tasty.
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The apathy/disillusionment rate concerns me. Which of the names will lose the most support? Either by apathy or being disenfranchised by their favorite name already being eliminated or just being tired of the drawn out process.
I wonder if that is part of the strategy to get F'Hawks to come out on top. If the poll on this forum is an indication, there may only be half the votes cast as there was in the first round. If that is the case, if enough supporters of any of the 3 remaining names stay the course, it may very well win the 50% required to be the next nickname this round. The comforting thought about this is that Roughriders has polled the best here, so hoping that translates into more apathy in the Nodaks and F'Hawks camps and allows this stupid process to end this week with the selection of Roughriders as the new UND nickname.
Go 'Ridas!
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This thread is as big a mess as this whole process.
FWIW: I voted RR and now will be voting Nodaks.
I am begging you... Please do not do that.
agree that this is a mess, but don't compound the problem and allow Kelly's manipulation to change what the runoff candidates should be, based on the result based on the original vote
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Voter turnout....will it be more this time around or about the same??
my $$ is on lower
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They're educators... They gotta grade on the curve.
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spoken like a true supporter/fan of the University of North Dakota! congrats.
maybe switch that to "I'm voting for the option that's BEST FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH DAKOTA?
While I am on your side wanting Roughriders, I tend to agree with these posters that you are teetering on the edge of pissing them off.
Ask the Nodak voters to join us, but your real target should be the North Stars and Sundog people. They are the ones whose favorite candidate lost and have the swing votes going forward. If you can get, let's say, 75% of them to vote Roughriders and swing some Nodak'ers, that should put 'ridas ahead of Hawks.
Just my my two cents.
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I dono, I think its kind of a refreshing change of pace, so everyone can remember were talking about real humans.
I think we need a QB change to, but the way most are posting about bartels, its like he killed off the last unicorn or something.
Go ahead and be critical, but dont be a keyboard warrior, it makes you look stupid.
if his concentration and/or performance is being impacted by his personal situation, maybe a leave of absence should be considered. (Good) Personnel and play calling need full attention.
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Me too. If FH wins, I will say a prayer that the logo is not an animal but a plane, helicopter or UAV.
good luck with that.
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Academic all conference. 4.0 GPA. Last semester. Supportive of his teammates. Never been arrested. Stays at UND in summer. Works with special needs kids. He will be first college FB player in history benched for going to class. Having the opinion he shouldn't start or play if that's how you feel is fine. Taking a cheap shot like that can unfairly hurt a guys reputation. You need to retract that.
something seriously wrong if this is true.
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Was there a Sioux, Cherokee, Arikara, Hidatsa, Mandan, or any other tribal chief named "Fighting Hawk"?
it may not be as politically correct as people are assuming.
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Quick... Someone create a Roughrider logo with feathers on it to pass along to the lemmings via social media...
start with the horse head and color in the mane...
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Yes, I know only the interlocked ND is owned by UND but the others can be modified.
Why Vote For Roughriders?
in UND Nickname
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If this had been circulated like the Blackhawks logo, Roughriders might have had a chance against being the 43rd Hawks.