fightingsioux4life

As long as the Summit League has a good Men's Basketball RPI Rating (which, according to the NDSU-ites, is all that really matters), why shouldn't they be happy?!?!

I agree with this.

Shouldn't you be more worried about your own program right now?

I agree with your thinking, but you just can't assume anything in our world.

We still have that potential ballot measure that would enshrine the name and logo into the ND Constitution. If it gets on the ballot, we will have to take it seriously and not assume it will be defeated.

I am surprised you didn't use the boilerplate NDSU talking point in favor of the Summit League: we have a great Men's Basketball RPI Rating! The Summit League is a hodge-podge, ticky-tack conference for schools that don't have any better place to go. I have held this position right from the start and I was so happy that the Big Sky came calling. NDSU had better hope that the Missouri Valley Conference (Northern Iowa, Creighton, Southern Illinois) has openings in the future because I don't think the Summit League will be around in 5 years or so. And I suppose Kolpack and company will blame UND for that too.

Thank God.

Boy oh boy, once this rivalry starts up again, it's going to get meaner and nastier than it ever was in the old days!

I wasn't targeting you with my comment as much as I was targeting UND administration with their constant clinging to the tired old "penny wise and pound foolish" strategies when it comes to the management of our athletic department resources. Especially since our move up to Division I, I have always believed that it is very important to challenge boilerplate answers to questions like this. Just saying "it's not feasible" and then moving on to the next issue is simply kicking the can down the road. At some point, Hyslop will deteriorate to the point where it isn't safe to use it for anything and a decision will have to be made to either demolish it or renovate it. And it will cost a lot more money the longer we kick the can down the road. Once we secure the funding for the IPF, we should turn our attention to developing a long-term plan for Hyslop Sports Center and an aggressive fund-raising campaign to fund it. If we decide to keep basketball and volleyball in The Betty, then I think it would make sense to bring the pool up to modern 21st century standards so we can have first-class Division I Swimming and Diving Programs. Then the rest of the complex could be updated to include first class office space for our administrators, recreational facilities for the student body and classroom space for Physical Education classes. These are the tools that successful Division I programs have and that backwater Division I In Name Only programs do not have. I know which category I want to be in.

So it would be "feasible" to just tear it down? Don't be so sure. Demolishing buildings is not cheap, either (why do you think the old REA is still there). Either we tear it down and build something else there or we renovate it. As it stands right now, everything except the pool and the athletic department administrative offices are under-utilized and/or un-utilized spaces. We should push for maximum utilization of all of our assets, both old and new. That will help us be more successful in Division I across the board.

At least Rocky was entertaining (remember the 364 days in hell comment?). Amy was classless, tasteless and the biggest sore loser in the North Central Conference.

No, I am calling YOU an extremist, along with DaveK, Fetch, Chewy and a couple of others on here. All that nonsense that the sanctions were "a small price to pay" to keep the name and logo is what I am calling extremist. 68% of North Dakotans disagreed with that suicidal viewpoint. The Native Americans of this region have been used as pawns by both sides of the nickname debate for years and that is something we all should be ashamed of. If UND had done more engagement with the tribes over the past 30-40 years, this day wouldn't have had to come. But in order to save UND athletics, the name and logo had to be retired. There is no joy in my heart on this issue, just relief that UND athletics will have a fighting chance to succeed in Division I.

I wasn't.

UND had a certain period of time to get approval from both tribes. We got one tribe's approval (Spirit Lake), but when it was apparent that Standing Rock would not give us their approval and the SBoHE decided to begin the retirement process, I (and some of us on here) decided that enough was enough. And this whole thing would have died a long time ago if it wasn't for "Clueless Al" Carlson and the Spirit Lake Committee for Understanding and Respect. And, for the record, I could care less about being "part of the crowd" in anything. I have taken positions on this forum that are contrary to the majority opinion and gotten flamed for it. And I will do so in the future.

I wasn't talking about wins and losses and titles, I was talking strictly about class and professionalism. And Ms. Ruley was sorely lacking in both. One of the sweetest wins in UND Women's Basketball history was the 1999 North Central Regional title game at Hyslop where the Sioux destroyed the Bison. I was in the student section chanting "Warm up the bus" at poor old Amy. She had that coming for a long time.

I was a strong supporter of the name and logo, but I (unlike some people on here) would NEVER place the name and logo ahead of having a strong and successful athletic department. I knew as soon as the 2007 settlement was signed that it was game over. I was 110% against "Clueless Al's" stupid nickname law because I knew the NCAA would simply ignore it. And I was just as ticked off when the Spirit Lake Committee for Understanding and Respect put the issue on a state-wide ballot. But you are right, a lot of people on this forum were happy as pigs in slop when the nickname law was approved. Thank God the people of North Dakota did the right thing last week.

A school that once employed Amy Ruley as Women's Basketball Coach shouldn't talk about class and professionalism.

That is a shock considering that Fargo is the Center Of The Known Universe; EVERYONE knows where the mighty Fargo-Moorhead MSA is. They're the next Minneapolis, you know.

Why are you still here? Your extremist position was rejected by the voters of North Dakota on Tuesday, June 12th. You, DaveK and Fetch should all get together and form a lobbying group to get REA to replace UND with an AHL franchise, because all that matters with you guys is the name and logo.

I beg your pardon? I didn't realize that you legally owned the State of Colorado. Are you planning to secede from the Union and declare yourself President for Life? Please stop trolling and stick to the subject matter. Everyone would appreciate it. Thank you.

Just heard on KFGO's News and Views program that the ND Board of Higher Education has voted to allow UND to retire the name and logo. http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/238757/

This says it all.

But, but, but, but........Rob Port insisted that the Big Sky was "only bluffing" and would never, ever even THINK of kicking us out! Seriously, this is awesome news. I am so looking forward to the first season of football in the Big Sky Conference!!!

The repeal of the nickname law has a provision that prohibits us from picking a new name until 1/1/2015.

You are persistent, I'll give you that.