fightingsioux4life

This is the same argument that Gopher fans made in the 1980's and 90's; titles don't really matter, all that matters is that we are in the playoffs every year. I think consistent success and championships are the benchmarks of a great program, not just one or the other. Fair or not, all people remember are the teams that raise NCAA title banners, not teams that are "there year in and year out". For example, Miami (OH) won't be considered a top echelon program until they get over the hump and win a national title. We haven't won a national title in any sport since 2001 (Football). Now with NDSU shoving their FCS football title in our faces 24/7, it is time we get over the hump. That would definitely shut up the "Fire Hakstol" crowd.

I don't care if the Beavers have Patrick Roy between the pipes, this is a series we can and should win 2-0. We are the better team and we are at home. If we don't win the series, we don't deserve to go to the NCAA's.

I really don't think it matters, the league is so tough and balanced that any team can beat any other team in the playoffs. I think we'll see more than one road team advance to St. Paul this year.

If Al Carlson doesn't like how the Higher Ed system is governed, why doesn't he use his position as Majority Leader during the next Legislative Session in 2013 to push reforms that would solve the problems? Why does he insist on fighting a proxy war over the Fighting Sioux nickname that will do tremendous harm to UND and the State of North Dakota? I think this fight is about massaging the man's already oversized ego. And I think it's absolutely disgraceful that he is chosing to put UND athletics in front of a firing squad to get what he wants. He just can't handle the fact that the Legislature is not with him on a lot of his crazy ideas. He needs to grow up or step aside and let adults take over.

Okay, that is fair. I guess I get a little passionate and ornery about this issue. Nothing personal.

I guess I am having trouble figuring out what your main point really is. Based on some of your comments on here, you don't seem overly concerned about the sanctions. But based on other comments, you are concerned about the sanctions. I believe you when you say you support UND, but I find you contradicting yourself on this.

When some people on this forum run around and insist there will be no major consequences for living under NCAA sanctions (even as they are being handed down), I get a little ticked off. The sanctions are real and are already having a negative impact on UND. That is a fact; it is NOT "just an opinion". And I will not stop sounding the alarm on this; the stakes are just too high.

You are missing the point, as usual. What the voting public thinks will darn well impact how this thing ends up. The stakes are just too high to shut up and say nothing. And if you REALLY think that the best student-athletes don't care about winning games and championships, then you are ignorant and out to lunch on this entire issue. The best athletes will go to schools without crippling NCAA sanctions because it will give them the best all-around student-athlete experience. And we'll settle for the leftovers. And I NEVER said anything about winning at all costs; I believe in playing by the rules and winning fairly against our competitors, like I believe we always have done. Last time I checked, our student-athletes do their own homework. As a supporter of UND, your ignorance on this issue is astounding (and very troubling).

I am calling you out because of your post telling prospective student-athletes that if they don't like competing under crippling NCAA sanctions, they can go to another school. The sad fact is, that is what they will do. The best athletes will go elsewhere (NDSU for example) and we'll get the leftovers. Just like Alcorn State, the poster child of the nickname-at-all-costs crowd. Your comment was irresponsible, reckless and is the type of thinking that threatens to destroy UND athletics forever and ever. That is not chicken-little thinking, that is the cold hard truth. Bottom line: Supporting the name and logo under sanctions is the same as supporting the destruction of UND athletics. That is the "common sense" position, not the one you espoused earlier. And if Star2City cannot accept those cold hard facts and truths, then he can just go over to SAB.com and have his "Big Sky is only bluffing" mentality affirmed over and over again. I am finished being Mr. Nice Guy to the nickname-at-all-costs crowd and their irresponsible, suicidal agenda. They must (and will be) called out for the damage they are doing to UND. And I disagree with you that our opinions don't really matter. It is the nickname-at-all-costs crowd that pushed the Legislature to pass this stupid law in the first place. It is the nickname-at-all-costs crowd that signed those petitions to put the issue on the June ballot. And it is the nickname-at-all-costs crowd that will (assuming the ND Supreme Court doesn't strike the law down) vote to repeal the repeal and enshrine the name and logo into ND State Law, which would ruin UND athletics as we have known them, forever. So it darn well matters what people think. That is why I will continue fighting for a pragmatic, common-sense conclusion to this matter so that UND will continue to produce both on the field and in the classroom.

Dear Cratter, If the nickname and logo are more important to you than the University of North Dakota and it's student-athletes, don't go to the games anymore, don't support the institution anymore and get the heck off of this forum while you are at it! Problem solved.

So that means Dave Hakstol is a coward? Should he lose his job? Nope, didn't think so.

We get it, all you care about is Men's Hockey. Please go back to the Men's Hockey forum and leave the intelligent debate to the rest of us that have a clue.

GPR further solidifies their position as Runner-Up High in ND High School Hockey (I think this is their 11th runner-up finish overall).

I was thinking the same thing tonight.

Grafton-Park River upsets GF Red River 5-3 to ruin the storybook season for the Riders.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJMkl04UgGc The perfect spokesperson for the nickname-at-all-costs crowd!

But Rob Port, Frank Black Cloud and the rest of the nickname-at-all-costs group will tell you that it's "a small price to pay"! Doesn't that make everyone feel better?

It's TRAVIS Brewster, not Tim. And no, I don't think he'll ruin the program.

I am finished playing Mr. Nice Guy with these people. They are endangering the future of UND as a whole and must be called out for what and who they are. And if you really think a clip from Billy Madison is "nasty", you haven't been online all that much.

And this is my response to them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0 It is time to call these people out and point out how reckless and irresponsible they are being.

Question my loyalty all you want son, but it doesn't change the fact that you and people like you are endangering this institution with your actions.

And what about "fans" like you that are willing to keep the name at all costs and who think the consequences are "a small price to pay"? YOU, my friend, are the problem, NOT me. Your incoherent rantings make all of us look silly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7w64fbqYQY

But remember, it's "a small price to pay".