UND-FB-FAN

Agree. Advanced planning and alliances are now more critical than ever. This is far more important now to UND than any of those schools …

Fargo and tax payer dollars gonna keep funding all those flights to Hawaii? What a political joke of state corruption. Rick Berg and those connections need to be closely examined.

That’s irrelevant apparently. You’ve bought in to the Fargo is king and UND hockey - Fargo football marriage propaganda. That stance hurts UND, Grand Forks and the entire State of North Dakota.

Ag college troll ^

Increases revenue streams and marketability. Increased attention, coverage and publicity. Ultimately, in doing it, you have to win or it means nothing, but need to learn from the past. NDSU will likely win. What will UND do? The narrative in 2004 when NDSU went up to division I (FCS) and UND stayed behind in division II was “good riddance” and “NDSU will fail”. Ultimately it started the hockey-only emphasis for UND; UND athletics has been playing catchup to NDSU athletics ever since. UND needs to be very strategic here. They need partners (South Dakota, South Dakota State, Montana, Montana State) and they need to be aggressive. They need to be willing to spend aggressively (unprecedented) athletically or risk being mitigated completely within their own state. Grand Forks is a hockey town, but North Dakota is a football state. UND needs to make the next move here, of which being patient is the likely one, but it’s not the guaranteed right one. Next move by UND is an important one.

Yes. For starters, the governor of the state.

Correct. This is political in origin; hence, Rick Berg taking over as NDSU interim president is no coincidence here in terms of timing. UND and their political alliances (and strategic panel in terms of hockey vs everything else) need to now react accordingly.

Not in perpetuity, but political officials that will allow NDSU into the state of North Dakota’s pockets do …

Ohio state - Ohio isn’t a done deal. Ohio state has hockey, professional schools, etc., and North Dakota State does not. UND still has greater enrollment, Point is, UND has a chance, but there is a real threat that UND loses ground and NDSU jumps up enrollment if UND and its constituents don’t react accordingly.

That is the real threat

False, but certainly a protective narrative I’d expect from all ag college supporters.

They won this political round. UND needs to step up their game next round…. Big time

Don't make assumptions, Mr. Bison.

Would be nice, but doubt he does … more behind the scenes manipulation from Fargo I’d guess

This is the dark reality and is a fair (unfortunate) comparison.

Nice. Sound argument.

Aware. But that is still legislation that is manipulative and adversely affects North Dakota’s flagship university while justifying ag college fiscal irresponsibility. Most disagree, unless they’re supporters of Fargo, ag college, and/or agriculture, of which ND has a strong support group.

If they won’t, then und will have several dark years until the next cycle … or … longer. Need action not inaction here

Okay to be chill and concurrently acknowledge that ag college of North Dakota is suspiciously funding this

Our guys have a say… so need to keep speaking up. There are plenty of scandals aplenty with “farmers” and NDSU, that’s not new news, but it will be interesting to see … UND’s history would predict they be quiet here and fall further behind …. but they need to speak up as needed and get to work and combat this strategically

Size of community doesn’t correlate to FCS or FBS. Dollars do, however; private donors is one thing, but state dollars / tax dollars is a different story …

Yeah, that is a pretty ignorant statement. You should try a bit harder. But you graduated from NDSU I presume. I’d say do some research, but I doubt you were taught how. Pretty obvious which school provides professional degrees (JD, MD), aerospace science, etc. and which does not…both are fine institutions of higher education; but one is clearly head and shoulders above the other academically.

Can’t argue with that. Still playing catchup and now $10 million or so (actually more) behind that ag college … whether fraudulent or not … and it’s fraudulent we all know

Wrong. Awful move if you care about political transparency and UND being held in proper regard. There won’t be a rotation. NDSU won’t allow that … at least with UND. We’ve seen this before. It’s a repeat of 23 years ago. good riddance … NDSU will and should fall on their face this time

They will fully oppose any conference alignment that allows UND to partner with them. They will also of course be completely against out of conference FCS-FBS matchup with UND-NDSU. Ultimately this was the only move left for ag college and they did it. Now the monetary/political games either begin or UND non-hockey sports (namely football) fall behind again