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Like it or not, the players have got the raw end of this deal. The length of this hiring process is particularly the reason. As we can see, without a leader and father-figure heading the program, some players get a bit restless and move on. Losing guys like Golladay, Jackson, and Brown are all major blows that shouldn't be taken likely. Whether you like it or not, this hiring process has been a failure. Perhaps not in terms of the guy hired, depending on whether Bubba/DeBoer pans out, but the length has been ridiculous. It's not coincidental that programs around the country make hires as quickly as possible; they realize a mass exodus of players, like we have seen here, is possible otherwise. Knowing the 15-day posting period was a requirement, Faison should have narrowed down the list to only 2 or 3 after Dec. 10 and had someone hired by Dec.12 or 13.

Stony Brook is a solid OOC addition. They are a quality FCS team. Good schedule pick-up.

Will you still want those things if the team has a losing record every season? Players that naturally want to play for UND are a rare breed now with NDSU stealing away the majority of pride and support of North Dakota and Minnesota kids.

Yeah, and Golladay will be playing on Sundays... Why would we ever want to recruit someone like that?

Losing Golladay was the final nail in the coffin. What in the world! This is beyond "normal" for when a coach leaves! Basically a mass exodus.... I'm honestly really disappointed. I want DoBoer, he can build a NC program. Bubba will "work" too

Bubba will put in place a good defense, which will ultimately allow this team to be more successful than any teams Mussman put together. With that said, how can you not want DeBoer!! As head coach, he lost as many games as national champions he won!! That's really impressive on any level! Plus he knows how to beat upper competition (UND in 2009)!! This is an example of a guy who has "it" !!

Both guys present positives: Bubba is a defensive minded guy from this state. Has UND and regional ties. DoBoer has an excellent head coaching record and possesses that mindset we need to knockoff ranked teams and FBS teams. Heck, he used that attitude to play spoiler against us! I think Bubba gets the job, but I'd like to see new blood in the program with DoBoer. Plus the attitude transformation that is required to beat the "big boys" would come with DoBoer.

Golladay had by far the most pure talent on the team; a team that went 3-8! Losing Golladay will hurt significantly. Thankfully this team can't get much worse. Only direction to go is up!

It's become the reality of DI UND football. It's been hard for some people to accept, including myself. Now, with UND non-hockey sports, I'm afraid the expectations are to try produce a high-quality product using average-quality resources. Need to have faith each and every season that UND football will be tremendously efficient.

The more I think about, either DeBoer or Schweigert would be fine. Flip a coin! They have gained valuable experience in the Missouri Valley Football Conference and have had success as head coaches, with DoBoer having the most. Once the head coach is hired, the most interesting aspect that comes to play will be the coaching staff that is hired. Both have probably made connections in the MVFC and I doubt they would be opposed to seeing if they could pull someone else's coordinator/position coach away from them. For example, if Bubba is hired, maybe he calls some OCs that he's been impressed with from the MVFC, or DoBoer would do the same for DCs. It's certainly a possibility, and if the assistant coaching salary has been raised enough, UND could get some quality coordinators to accompany Bubba or DeBoer.

I just want a guy that has leadership and the ability to recruit. I'd say both Schweigert and DeBoer know how to win championships since they've done it as a coordinator and head coach, respectively. Then again, we had our other coordinator from 2001 takeover the program and look how that turned out. For that reason I'm starting to lean towards DeBoer since he won titles as a head coach. I still would prefer a surprise hire of someone with FBS experience, but doesn't look like that'll happen.

So we need a slam dunk hire that will that BRING IN (recruits and transfers over the years) more talent than we have lost/will lose.

Where have you been the past five years? Yes there are exceptions, but DI experience is very crucial. DI is a different animal compared to DII, not just on the field but off it in terms of recruiting competition. To think all coaches work at all levels..that's an incredibly ignorant statement. You think a long time winning high school coach in North Dakota could do wonders at UND? I'll give you the answer: No. Malzahn coached for a long time at a high school in Arkansas, where high school football is a lot more intense than around here, and he had long term success. Than he went to OC and won a NC before getting a HC job. Kelly is not a good example for your point at all. He did the common ladder climb like most coaches. Grand Valley State assistant, then Grand Valley HC, and then jump to FBS HC at Central Michigan - be comparable to DeBoer if he gets the job.

Yeah, and then he went DII coordinator, DII head coach, and DI FCS coordinator.... Bottom line is Bubba is way more experienced than Morrell. If Morrell comes in as position coach, then I'm fine with it, but not defensive coordinator. We're not DII anymore!! If you want to hire local boys with minimal to no DI experience all the time, then UND football will stay right where it has been - a mediocre FCS team. Need proven leaders and recruiters at the DI LEVEL. The proof is all around the country if anyone cares to look. For example, one institution is just 70 miles south.

Considering how talented Golladay is, if he is actually leaving it will be a HUGE loss. Losing Hardin (of course to graduation) Jackson and Golladay in the same offseason will take the WR position from a strength to a questionable position group. This hire better be a home run or else this process has been just as ridiculous as the football program in general over the past 5 years.

Morrell has coached at Sioux Falls and Montana Tech...... If he's hired as DC, that's plain ridiculous. Never mind FBS experience, he doesn't even have FCS experience. I'd rather have Kotelnicki at DC than Morrell. Edit: I see he coached one season for USD as defensive coordinator in 2009. That still makes for a weak resume. If DeBoer gets the job, hopefully he has more qualified connections than just his USF buddies.

You're claiming I don't like that coaches and administrators have to report inappropriate behavior and intervene to the best of their abilities? That is common sense administrative policy, so not only do I "like it", but I agree with it. Nevertheless, there's always a risk when you hire someone, certain individuals moreso than others. I believe some, including yourself, are associating Pflugrad with a greater risk than what actually exists. If he does get a second chance to be a head coach, you'll see zero administrative faults on his part, particularly when it comes to following disciplinary policies and communicating with administrators.

Morrell didn't have much success at Montana Tech this past season; went 3-7.

This hire with assess Faison's competence as AD in my opinion.

Given their current salaries, more likely Schweigert gets head job and DeBoer gets offensive coordinator if you want them both.

According to http://dailyegyptian...iu-salary-data/ Schweigert makes approximately $87,000 a year at SIU. Would be smart to only offer him around a $150,000 base salary with incentives that could potentially take him over $200,000. Let the saved value be distributed to the assistants, so we can hire quality DI offensive assistants to accompany Schweigert and presumably Schmidt. Also, considering Kalen DeBoer makes approximately $68,500 a year, is it possible he could be hired as offensive coordinator for Schweigert? Pay $150k for Schweigert and somehow get $80k for DoBoer? Maybe a slight possibility…

I agree either DeBoer or Schweigert would be somewhat disappointing hires given the title "national" search, but we have to deal with what we can get I suppose. The biggest factor could really be the increase in assistant's salaries - that could allow for experienced assistants to be hired, not just former players.

I think saying Chappell was 200 lbs is a bit of push, but not too far off I suppose. Anyways, you have to consider the offensive lines of UND when Chappell played. They were far more physical than what UND had to offer Jake Miller, which is really discouraging since UND was DI and had their former O-line coach as head coach. Regardless, I'm not trying to endorse Miller. His size and strength were not good enough for DI runningback.

If Mollberg and Bartels both continue to play musical chairs quarterback over the years, then UND won't be successful. Need to pick one and let the other one go his separate way, because I doubt either one of them wants to be a three year backup.

In my opinion, your claims are unrealistic and biased. There's only so much a head football coach can do on and off a campus. Yes, there are programs that could've been initiated to try and combat the issue at hand, but even that is no guarantee to work. For example, education programs on sexually transmitted diseases (STDs), such as AIDS, have nationally existed now for decades and STDs are certainly still a problem. Albeit STD transmission is not always associated with a crime, the same principal exists in that education problems do not lead to entire eradication. I hope you are just trying to make sense of why Pflugrad is not being considered at UND, or taking the stance you are taking for argument's sake, because otherwise you are shining an unnecessary, wrongful light on Pflugrad. There's only so much a coach can do. By no means did Pflugrad meaningly promote asexual assault or compliance incoherence. Some things are out of people's hands, whether you like to believe or not. In my opinion, Pflugrad deserves a second chance and it should be with UND. With that said, I don't think he ends up here.