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Bubba is following the ac formula of running game and defense to be successful, I would suggest Faison follow their scheduling formula as well.
Lessons learned.
Really, its just the UND and Dale Lennon formula from about 2000 to 2007 that Bubba is following.
Most people forget that UND's best FCS win is not 2012 vs. Montana, or 2011 vs. SUU, or even 2009 vs. Cal Poly, but rather in 2006 vs. #3 Northern Iowa.
In 2006, and the rest of Lennon's years, UND was a balanced physical offense (not a delicate air-it-all-over-the-place offense) with a physical pressure defense. Bottom line, they played smart, physical, balanced football with local area recruits. Why Mussman got away from that, I'll never know, because he witnessed all the successful Lennon teams in person.
Nevertheless, Bubba knows how to make UND successful, because when UND was DII with Lennon, they were already a "top FCS-caliber" team. Bubba both coached for and against Dale Lennon's UND teams. Furthermore, Bubba was with Lennon for the past 6 years.
Bottom line, Bubba knows what it takes to make UND successful. Maybe not SIU, but he knows the formula for UND.
This thing is on the right track with Bubba.
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I am not willing to call for Faison's job over this. The before/after picture of what was going on in the athletic department prior to his arrival here speaks for itself.
That being said, for Faison to accept a two road game deal in Fargo would make my blood boil to a point that it becomes too difficult to put into words. A two road game FCS deal. Not even a two for one at home? Nobody offers that. Nobody accepts that.
In the NFL they talk about respecting the shield. Well goddammit, it is about time someone started respecting the Kelly Green and White (if we can no longer do so for the old logo). You do not devalue your program by agreeing to such unprecedentedly lopsided terms. Someone earlier referred to "whoring" out the program, and making the UND program their "bitch", and that's exactly what it is. It would be nothing more than a walk of shame down I-94 for those two games and then staring at a phone that ain't ringing. And then you know what happens? Every other program believes they could ask the same thing from you because you know what? You did it once...you'll do it again. Now other programs will approach their negotiations differently from the start and expect they will be able to low ball you because you are the whore that goes on the road for two games with no return.
I'm not getting into a discussion with the ac faithful about this offer, as it merits none. It's a sham. A joke. I don't give a s**t about the legitimacy of the offers/counteroffers that have been made until now. This "offer" changes the game because it sends the clearest possible signal that your negotiating partner believes you to be a piece of s**t that deserves no better offer, and is treating you as such.
End rant.
Agreed.
Basic principles here:
1) Agree to home and home with fellow FCS North Dakota State
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2) Agree to home and home with OTHER FCS football program
Simple course of action in my opinion.
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This is the most competitive camp I've seen in the four years I've been here. I won't get into specifics, but there are some good ongoing battles and it'll be interesting to see the results come Aug. 28.
I may be nitpicking here, but one of the things I miss from previous football seasons is the team photo that was typically posted on the UND athletics’ website. It was nice to see the team photo above the roster but that hasn’t been posted for the past few seasons.
Anyway that could make a comeback?
Nevertheless, great job on the fall camp coverage and keep up the good work!
Thanks and GO UND!
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Gotta love the authority in Bubba as he talks to his team. You can tell he's the boss and demands respect. He's so soft spoken with the media that it's tough to imagine him being good and talking to his teams. This is the opposite of Mussman who never really seemed to project absolute confidence.
Mussman's communication skills were not good. They were one of the things that had me doubting if he could be a successful head coach...then 2012 and 2013 happened.
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You can't really take credit for a "close game" against a Fresno State team that eventually wound up with a 4-9 record, can you? That was the same 2011-2012 season that included a "revenge match" game against NAIA Sioux Falls. North Dakota bounced back from what should be considered the most embarrassing loss in school history two seasons earlier with a 15-13 "thumping" of the Cougars. I think staying close with a San Diego State team in 2012 that wound up at 9-4 - and had wins over Boise State and Air Force - was more impressive. Of course, that season also included giving up 55 points against both EWU and Montana State and an end-of-season loss to Northern Colorado.
Mussman's teams were all quite inconsistent. He never installed proper discipline because he certainly lacked leadership ability. Of course, the talent and scheme/philosophy was also a bit down.
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Via Twitter, it kind of appears that RB Brady Oliviera (5'10”, 215, Winnipeg (Oak Park), MB) may be close to committing.
Hard to know the exact circumstances, but I sure hope it works out for him and he commits. He looks like the kind of physical RB we need for a physical running offense.
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I mean, when UND starts winning again, starting this season and especially in 2015, are we then going to be able to schedule a home and home?
Probably not.
There's no better time to schedule it than right now. The game is already overdue.
As for the state of UND football, stock is rising each and everyday. Mussman was an incompetent head coach and everyone knew it. He should never have been promoted to HC and he never should've had the job past 2011 or 2012. Bubba isn't a miracle worker, but he understands that UND has the resources to be every bit as successful as the other Midwest FCS schools like SDSU, UNI, and even NDSU. He also knows the template: recruit Midwest kids and put forth great physical and mental effort.
Am I saying UND will start winning national titles soon; no, but I'm saying with a competent coaching staff UND should win at least 6 to 7 games annually. Give it time; by 2015 or 2016 it will have begun. As for NDSU, they can only go down. Craig Bohl was a great leader and the 2013 senior class was a one of a kind. Like it or not, the programs will even out sooner than you think.
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I was replying to siouxscore's post as to the strength of the Gophers program over the years. Maybe you should follow your own advice.
Propagating a misplaced argument; very nice.
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Minnesota is not good at football. They haven't been for a long time. You think Mr. Seizure is the next Dr. Lou? You just might need a room at the state hospital back home in Jamestown
Where are your wins? UND fans always make excuses for our wins over FBS teams. Fact is we were just a better team at the time.
Someone from your passionately insane fan base initiated the continual comments regarding Minnesota football, so I'm not sure why you're now including the topic of NDSU's FBS wins into this 2015 UND recruiting thread as a rebuttal.
Please know the context of a post before replying; if you do not, it only further exposes your intent to troll and add nothing constructive to the conversation.
Thank you
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UND fans may not like playing in Fargo twice, but the fact is they are the better team and have earned that power. Until UND proves otherwise , I see no reason not to play in Fargo. Get the series back and maybe by 2018 we will be on the same page.
Umm NDSU scheduled a home and home with Weber State for goodness sake!
It doesn't matter if you're the better team or not, you schedule home and homes with teams at your same level (FCS), especially when the respective schools are rivals, only 70 miles apart, and have a long and heated history!
Alabama does it, Florida State does it. Michigan does it. Oklahoma does it.
Even more similar, Iowa-Iowa State do it, Georgia-Georgia Tech do it, Utah-Utah State do it, etc. etc. etc.
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Only schedule a home and home with NDSU. If they won't do it, don't cave Mr. Faison, just continue to negotiate and hope that NDSU eventually comes to their senses and schedules a home and home. Whether that starts next year and whenever, just keep trying for only the home and home.
In the meantime, why not try and schedule other Midwest FCS programs to home-and-homes to fill our schedule. I would love to see games with Northern Iowa, Southern Illinois, Illinois State, Indiana State, etc. Heck, even try get some east coast teams like New Hampshire, Maine, Delaware, etc. to agree to deals.
I believe NDSU should be UND's highest priority in terms of trying to get a home and home; however, if they won't do that (especially when they will schedule Weber State and Eastern Washington to such agreements), then move on to other opportunities with FCS clubs.
Eventually, we'll either meet NDSU in the playoffs or NDSU's athletic department will have something click upstairs and they'll schedule the home and home. Only two options in my opinion.
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Albeit the defense should be farther ahead of the offense at this point, I like how the defense is playing so far.
I think the coaching emphasis on defense along with the pressure they apply will greatly help the defense. I sure hope UND's defense can surprise a lot of people this year and be darn good.
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Please drop this "Flagship" crap. It should embarrass us all that neither school makes the top 400 in Forbes rankings or the top 150 in US News rankings. This wouldn't be the case if either school or the state took "areas that really matter" seriously.
Regardless of ratings, The University of North Dakota best fits the mold as the flagship university of the state of North Dakota. Apparently you are heavily biased towards NDSU; therefore, you don't want facts to interrupt your personal view on reality.
Flagship universities are typically public universities, so they don't stand a chance in college rating lists such as Forbes or US news due to the amount of private universities ranked. Nevertheless, UND offers a tremendous amount of opportunities for in-state residents that a lot of other states don't mutually provide. For example, how many other states can offer their residents opportunities in world-class aviation, biomedical research, ecological studies, petroleum engineering, etc. Not only that, but the professional schools at UND attract established faculty from around the world to help share their wealth of knowledge. States such as Montana, Wyoming, and Idaho do not even possess an allopathic medical college. The point is, UND offers opportunities that are in high demand across the country and world, and whether you like it or not, they offer more of those opportunities than NDSU.
And if its worth anything, UND is higher than NDSU in the US news ranking you referenced. If you're a North Dakota resident looking for an affordable education (which is becoming more and more pressing all of the time), having a flagship university is important, so please don't discount that.
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A couple questions first on the QB situation how does Jake Hanson compare to the other two, possible 3 man race? Also you say our RB look good with this OL, once the OL gets more solid, could we see the running situation we had prior to Muss??
Hanson isn't in it. Too short, too many throwing errors, and mental errors.
The RBs are solid this year (no more 160 lb. Miller). Also, I think the OL will be okay once the lineup is found and stabilized.
The TEs will have more than a few catches this year; they are heavily emphasized in the short to intermediate passing game.
Also, I agree the defense will be much better. There just is more discipline and emphasis on that side of the ball now, but of course the FBS transfers help in the talent department too.
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So we got a Nazi....a high ranking in producing doctors who work in small towns and a top ten online business program for veterans.... Those two are awful specific. ... And rather worthless.
small towns? Those are the small towns that produce many of the athletes I *thought* NDSU valued. Additionally, nearly the entire state of North Dakota is considered rural, so if you consider NDSU to be even somewhat loyal to their craft, you would respect rural medicine in North Dakota. Nevertheless, I've already pointed out your disrespectful demeanor and mental incompetence.
Move along.
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Ralph is not an alumni I'd claim... Top business school? Since when? One of the worst med schools in the nation...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Engelstad
http://und.edu/news/2014/05/best-online-business-program.cfm
I know this is hard for you since you're associated with NDSU, but why don't you read the above links and educate yourself.
Thank you
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.....11>1 and you say NDSU is not big outside of Fargo....? What do you think UND is?
NDSU educates a lot of international students in aviation? Did not know that.
NDSU educates professionals in medicine and law? Did not know that.
NDSU has a top business school? Did not know that.
NDSU has a MLB president? Did not know that.
NDSU has produced alumni whom are capable of donating entire athletic arenas?
NDSU has produced star players in a major professional sport league (NHL)?
The list goes on and on...
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The Wikipedia page lies. Further review... Indicates you are correct. Further...I was not looking at playoff games.
Still won more titles in the 90's.. Which is also equal to UND's total of championships. Way to strive for average!
Your ability to compensate is childish at best. Then again, that may be appropriate for you.
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I'll fill you in on some reality....
If UND keeps winning natties at its current rate... And NDSU disbands our program..... You won't catch up for over a millennium. Let that sink in.
That certainly means a lot coming from someone with your cerebral stature [verbally ironic].
Again, you wonderfully demonstrate the ridiculous intellect that you and your fellow NDSU supporters possess.
NDSU is not a big deal outside of Fargo; that moronic NDSU flag project is the perfect example of how the university tries to make its supporters feel less insecure.
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Minnesota is not good at football. They haven't been for a long time. You think Mr. Seizure is the next Dr. Lou? You just might need a room at the state hospital back home in Jamestown
Last season Minnesota had several good wins, including Nebraska. Nebraska crushed South Dakota State last season; that's right, that's SDSU from the untouchable MVFC.
Also, your childish demeanor is not appreciated or respected by anyone on this board, nor should it be by anyone for that matter. Jerry Kill has demonstrated great moral values by continuing to coach and by raising awareness for epilepsy. For you to disrespect not only Jerry Kill, but also millions across the country and world with epilepsy, by despicably calling Jerry Kill "Mr. Seizure", you have shown your true colors.
That is, you represent your petty and mentally insignificant NDSU community very well.
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Those were all true back in 2003.
Well, now in 2014, the schools haven't magically become farther apart. Also, the history and tradition are still there. The potential revenue and attendance boost also hasn't changed.
Where you make no sense is where you state the OOC rivalry template and open schedule dates were true in 2003. In 2003, UND and NDSU were not out-of-conference rivals, so that would not apply whatsoever. It just goes to prove you ag tech supporters are blind and selectively believe whatever forms your own pretty little reality; how sad.
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LOL.....worst school in the BSC standings. flagship that!
A flagship university, when looking at examples from across the country, is often the most prominent public university in the state. Additionally, flagship universities are often the first to be established within the state and have the most state support.
The University of North Dakota has greater enrollment than North Dakota State University (UND > 15,000); UND has professional schools and a world-renown aviation school whereas NDSU does not; UND was founded in 1883 and NDSU was founded after in 1890. Therefore, basic logic would reveal UND fits the mold of flagship university better than NDSU. Apparently, certain individuals associated with NDSU find it difficult to embrace reality.
Also, how in the world did you come to the conclusion that football standings affect flagship school status? That's laughably idiotic.
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Two comments:
1) Be prepared to be reminded of your comment regarding "SU being lucky to make the playoffs" about four months from now!
2) This is a UND website - why in the helll are we wasting any time talking about SU??
Two Replies
1) NDSU may make the playoffs, but they won't be a top 5 team.
2) This thread is about FCS Preseason Polls, which have NDSU at either #1 or #2; therefore, they are a hot topic regarding preseason polls.
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4th commitment to 2015 recruiting class - OL Zack Williams, 6'6". 265 lbs. (Murdoch MacKay) Winnipeg, MB
http://www.hudl.com/...7/zack-williams
Of the 4 commitments, 2 are from North Dakota, 1 is from Minnesota, and 1 is from Canada.
Gotta love the early regional emphasis!
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Very true.
If UND could put together the type of teams they did in 2006 and 2007, they certainly can do it again moving forward.They just need to get the scheme, philosophy, and recruiting strategy reinstalled that got them there in the first place.