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Third time the charm? Often can be

Wouldn’t even make the top 100 for what the NDSU bozos do… Chuck will be fine. good kid and will make a huge impact in 2026.

Financially it will never make sense for an FBS to visit a FCS school. Fargo and the big heads would never agree to play in Grand Forks again anyways. Game will be only in Fargo or be on hold again for X number of years until UND goes FBS, which does need to happen in 3-5 years. In the meantime, start to (and need to) dominate the FCS.

No doubt many left for more money. But as we’ve seen around the country and even here at UND in other sports (hockey and football), players will stay despite $$ offers if you have the right plan and fit for them here. Tradition, culture and fit still matters some. The coach is very important in that plan. And having an NIL that is at least in the ballpark is also important. UND basketball doesn’t even have a trace of NIL right now and that needs to change or 3rd in the conference is the best we can all hope for … oh, and the coaching ….

Everyone knows about Treysen, but the other guys he’s lost didn’t go out and get big time dollars. There was also apparently a component of just wanting something different. I’ll admit, because it is true, that Sather is definitely not the only issue with UND basketball. The program needs way more support for the 1000th time. Lack of NIL for basketball is hurting as much as coaching, if not more.

Some of the lack of retention issues are due to Sather. So yes, Sather will remain, and so will mass departures after the players get to know their coach. I’d guess most if not all of the major contributors leave and UND MBB is once again starting over for 2026-2027…

You’re correct, unfortunately for UND MBB… but that doesn’t mean you settle for mediocrity and just hand out extensions like candy try find a diamond in the rough, up and comer young coach who will be the next superstar … who knows what happens doing this Chaves extension thing doesn’t look quite as good now as it did a couple weeks ago, and it didn’t look great then either

If you actually care about winning in this day and age, then yes, it is one of many head coaching responsibilities. Many coaches are getting out of the profession as such but it is in fact now one of the responsibilities if you want to be successful.

Ha!! one of the most accurate depictions on this site in recent memory good work @gfhockey

He needs more support, in terms of facilities, assistants, NIL (having better players always helps), but of course paying him more won’t make him a better coach. It’s a convenient excuse though for those who are buddy buddy with him … Results matter in this business. We went through the same issue with football and the inevitable outcome happened we all knew needed to happen 3+ years in advance. This feels like the same damn thing but now with basketball … good work, Chaves, you tool

You’ve eliminated results from a result-orientated line of work (as most work should be). That doesn’t allow for an accurate assessment. I appreciate the sentiment, but it is exactly the type of thinking that keeps programs mediocre and away from excellence. The UND men’s basketball (MBB) program needs more support ($), no question, but that additional support doesn’t change the characteristics of the individual. If you don’t change the culture up front, the culture will change you. It’s too far gone for Coach Sather - he’s a shell of himself. He got the money, but he won’t find major success at UND MBB, and UND MBB is locked into mediocrity for another 2-3 years. Wake me in 2028-2029 and maybe we can talk excitement with UND hoops then. In the meantime, I recommend you turn your attention to UND hockey and UND football. They’ve got the support and leaders you need to have a chance.

yup … only one … poor us someone please continue to provide the pity

With this logic you could have a 5-year-old on the bench coaching the guys …

It’s f**king awful this is unforgivable

honestly, there’s really only one way for UND to handle all of this: start kickin’ some ass Anyone. Anywhere. Anytime.

Fair predictions but I don’t agree. UND beats Nebraska and thus owns the FCS in ‘26. I’ve seen this story before. Ya’ll better get ready to go.

Choke job … ouch

Here’s to hoping Coach Sather takes the next step here at UND. I’m thinking he will … but he will require more support from UND administration and donors.

Ahh yes … good players and good coaching … and the title of this thread is … reality is in this day and age funds and facilities (mostly funds) drive acquisition of said players and coaches. Little different era now in college athletics than the D2 days of the Hyslop

Winning, environment, facilities all bring butts to the seats, not the other way around … hockey gets the butts because of the Ralph and winning (mostly the Ralph). Pure and Simple. Betty is underwhelming. Need new facility and wins to get the butts you speak of funding and facilities are hot topics for und basketball and need to be to help take und athletics to the next level Ag college of nd took und to the cleaners this year in both mens and women’s basketball … sad

The irony … extended 3-years after losing 83-66 at home to in-state rival… I respect the work, but expectations are low. Raising pay is important, but won’t matter unless the job is opened to attract better candidates. It highlights UND MBB’s weak finances currently …likely the worst Summit League coaching job. Hockey hockey hockey. No reallocation to help the little guy, just keep recycling to the bell cow. Strategy is a bit stale I’d say but it is the culture. Hope funding improves soon.

Ok, fine, I’ll hold back on the profanity and criticism for now on this …. but … the clock is ticking.

UND men’s basketball needs more support / private donations but also I think it’s time to try a new strategy and voice in the room …

This one still burns. I’m okay with a new coach / direction again at UND … same ol’ same ol’ ain’t cutting it

No. To pump the brakes would be incorrect.