bison73

Nobody said it would work out EVERY year. But thats what they want to achieve on a regular basis. Dont understand whats so hard to understand about that.

Agree with you both. Too many years of missed opportunities.

Ive always felt that if you win a championship its a hell of an accomplishment regardless of the division. As far as what can be done now is be proactive and be ready to make a move when the Big5 shake up happens.

He was just being honest. In this day and age one needs to be aware of their surroundings.Being proactive keeps one safe.

The silver dollar is ok. Cassies has much better food along with the Wyoming Rib and Chop House.

Yes it is tough to get hunting tags out there. The drive from Cody to Yellowstone is more than majestic. WOW doesnt do it justice.

Second game.

Many came from father out. I personally know people who came from IA, MI, WI, MASS,WA, OR and FLA.

This year. But you knew that. Then we play The University of Iowa Hawkeyes in 2016. Have fun in Laramie. WY is a great state. Was out there last year on an elk hunt out of Cody. Cant wait to go back.

Funny we had 20,000 that drove 233 miles to the cities. I guess the appeal of playing a big ten team is much better than playing GFCC. Question how many tickets would be available for Bison fans at the tin shed? Considering not many most would have to watch the game on the computer wouldnt they.

And you represent GFCC in a favorable light?

For some reason you folks seem to think that all the communication via email defines this situation. So you are trying to tell that over the two year gap that there was no communication via phone? They never talked?

Now now dont try and confuse him with facts. Mindless accusations and hyperbole are his strong points.

Thank you for clearing up any misconceptions.

They lost to Upper Iowa and Winona State not to mention Sioux falls??? Oh my!

May be should have said that in the first place?

And it wont be as bad as you are hoping it will be.

Originally Posted by Bison03 That is the biggest thing about this article that I think most UND fans fail to see or understand. They seem to think that in 2011 that a deal was made, it wasn't. Then almost 2 years later, Faison finally said they should sign a deal. When Taylor says no to that deal, UND fans think Taylor is backing out. Do they not understand that circumstances change over time? When NDSU first moved to DI, we needed games because of being in a 5 team Great West Conference. Taylor offered UND a 4 game contract with 2 games at each school; to keep the rivalry going. UND turned it down because they felt it would give an unfair advantage due to more scholarships and because of how the playoff commitee viewed playing DIAA games. UND was doing what was best for UND. In 2007, when UND moved up to DI, they desperately needed games because they were in the same 5 team Great West Conference. Faison wanted to play every year in order to fill their schedule. UND was doing what was best for UND. Taylor turned down that deal because he wanted NDSU to have more home games and an FBS game every year for revenue reasons. NDSU was doing what was best for NDSU. In April of 2011, NDSU was not selling out the dome, creating a waiting list for thousands of people for season tickets, and had yet to win an FCS championship yet. At that time, teams were willing to come to the dome for reasonable guarantees to play. I'm sure Taylor figured it would be easy to get a non conference home games or two at an affordable price in the future and therefore able to sign a home and home where the Bison could go to GF in 2017. NDSU was doing what was best for NDSU. The deal was never signed for unknown reasons. Fast forward to January 2013. NDSU is coming off back to back national championship seasons and sold out home games for 2 years. Teams are harder to get to come to Fargo to play non conference games. Georiga Southern had bought out a game and soon Montana State would buy out as well. Taylor even says as much when he says, “A lot has changed since 2010 with our ticket demands and revenue number we need to generate out of football." Taylor makes getting 6 home games as well as an FBS game a priority, not scheduling UND. Maybe in 2017, Taylor wants to keep as many dates open as possible so that they can get to that 6 home game goal. Wanting a home game with UND in 2017 as well then makes sense. NDSU was doing what was best for NDSU. Fast forward again to last week where Taylor again offered for just one game in Fargo next year. Taylor wanted to just get the rivalry started again. Faison rejected the deal either because he didn't like that the guarantee had lowered or that he more then likely wanted the return game so they could sell out the Alerus with increased ticket prices, therefore making more money. UND was doing what was best for UND. So it is not just Gene Taylor that is in the minds of UND fans being selfish. Both AD's have the interest of their schools and athletic departments in mind when figuring out a deal. UND will do what is best for UND, and NDSU will do what is best for NDSU. Without a signed contract, a verbal proposition is just that...A proposition. In business, the terms change constantly...If they can't understand that, it's on them.

Another view point--- Originally Posted by Bison03 That is the biggest thing about this article that I think most UND fans fail to see or understand. They seem to think that in 2011 that a deal was made, it wasn't. Then almost 2 years later, Faison finally said they should sign a deal. When Taylor says no to that deal, UND fans think Taylor is backing out. Do they not understand that circumstances change over time? When NDSU first moved to DI, we needed games because of being in a 5 team Great West Conference. Taylor offered UND a 4 game contract with 2 games at each school; to keep the rivalry going. UND turned it down because they felt it would give an unfair advantage due to more scholarships and because of how the playoff commitee viewed playing DIAA games. UND was doing what was best for UND. In 2007, when UND moved up to DI, they desperately needed games because they were in the same 5 team Great West Conference. Faison wanted to play every year in order to fill their schedule. UND was doing what was best for UND. Taylor turned down that deal because he wanted NDSU to have more home games and an FBS game every year for revenue reasons. NDSU was doing what was best for NDSU. In April of 2011, NDSU was not selling out the dome, creating a waiting list for thousands of people for season tickets, and had yet to win an FCS championship yet. At that time, teams were willing to come to the dome for reasonable guarantees to play. I'm sure Taylor figured it would be easy to get a non conference home games or two at an affordable price in the future and therefore able to sign a home and home where the Bison could go to GF in 2017. NDSU was doing what was best for NDSU. The deal was never signed for unknown reasons. Fast forward to January 2013. NDSU is coming off back to back national championship seasons and sold out home games for 2 years. Teams are harder to get to come to Fargo to play non conference games. Georiga Southern had bought out a game and soon Montana State would buy out as well. Taylor even says as much when he says, “A lot has changed since 2010 with our ticket demands and revenue number we need to generate out of football." Taylor makes getting 6 home games as well as an FBS game a priority, not scheduling UND. Maybe in 2017, Taylor wants to keep as many dates open as possible so that they can get to that 6 home game goal. Wanting a home game with UND in 2017 as well then makes sense. NDSU was doing what was best for NDSU. Fast forward again to last week where Taylor again offered for just one game in Fargo next year. Taylor wanted to just get the rivalry started again. Faison rejected the deal either because he didn't like that the guarantee had lowered or that he more then likely wanted the return game so they could sell out the Alerus with increased ticket prices, therefore making more money. UND was doing what was best for UND. So it is not just Gene Taylor that is in the minds of UND fans being selfish. Both AD's have the interest of their schools and athletic departments in mind when figuring out a deal. UND will do what is best for UND, and NDSU will do what is best for NDSU. Without a signed contract, a verbal proposition is just that...A proposition. In business, the terms change constantly...If they can't understand that, it's on them.

The nonsense you speak of are you referring to just me or all the other nonsense that is posted here? You cant keep using the excuse that GT will change the agreement to not take the deal. Much has been discussed over the years between GT and BF and nobody really knows what has transpired over the last 4 years in those conversations. Take the current deal. If GT changes the deal I will be with you in denouncing it as BS.

I just find some of your superfluous verbiage entertaining.

The Weber game was a return game we owed them for coming to Fargo when we needed a game. So that arguement is a non starter. Why do you keep bringing up hypothetical scenarios? They do nothing for the point at hand.