SIOUXFAN97
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2 minutes ago, keikla said:
I didn't say that he shouldn't be able to. In fact, I specifically said that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that I don't find the stat they used in that article to be useful or applicable to a lot of people.
sorry didn't say you...just maybe some of the govs that have lockdowns til mid june based on faulty numbers...
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22 minutes ago, keikla said:
Right, but when decisions were initially being made, we didn't know what that death rate would be. Many extreme decisions were made based on early/minimal data and applied nationwide. Can/should things be re-evaluated now? Absolutely. But just like the shutdowns weren't one size fits all, also the removal of restrictions shouldn't be.
I will say that I find it interesting how people manipulate stats to prove their point. This is nothing new. Heck, even in sports people will say "so-and-so is 11-1 in their last 12" because going back further than that would show they were 11-9 overall. It's all about picking your data sets and ranges to make the numbers look the way you want them to. This is not something that is political, because everyone and every side does it. Even when reviewing new medical research, I always make a point to analyze how they manipulated the stats...who they eliminated from the study and why, what effects that exclusion likely had on outcome, did they use the appropriate statistical tests based on data type, etc..
This article is looking at deaths per 100,000 of those who are under 50 and have no comorbidities. Nationally, roughly 1/3 adults have high blood pressure and 40% of adults >20 years old meet the criteria for obesity. Obviously, there is likely to be a lot of overlap between those two groups but not everyone. That's A LOT of people being excluded from the stat this article is using to show how this virus isn't a big deal. I can't emphasize enough that I'm not saying that the lockdowns were right or wrong or now how much they should be loosened. Especially not on a national level. My firsthand experience showed me that the lockdown helped immensely in the heavily affected areas of NY, but NY is a different ballgame with this thing. And even then, NY needs to find a safe way to slowly ease the grip. I'm just pointing out that using the 5 deaths per 100,000 in the healthy under 50 group for the rationale doesn't make a ton of sense when a large portion of the general population doesn't fit into that stat.
thats fine but why should darnell who is 35 and owns his own barber shop(s) and is 6'0 175lbs and walks an hour every day of the week not be able to give a haircut to a customer because darrell who is 48 and 5'8 275lbs and watches romcoms everynight after work is "at risk"
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6 minutes ago, GeauxSioux said:
Agree or disagree, there are some valid points here.....https://www.zerohedge.com/health/ripple-effects-government-lockdown-are-only-starting-take-shape
You would not, in the slightest, in any kind of sane world, shut down an entire economy and lock down everything when you have a 5 per 100,000 death rate for the overwhelming share of the population.
in a country where school is canceled bc its "too cold"...not snowing or blizzarding...."too cold" i can see it yeah.
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if the state retested those same 1901 people tomorrow what would the results be? 56? 59? 51? 66 positives?
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5 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
ND most tests in a day. 1901 tests.....56 positives. 1 death.
Doug just punched the reset again.
#2moreweeks
what is hell is doug waiting for?
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is the death of a 90 plus year old from any ailment worthy of breaking news on the the heraldo webpage anymore...is it time to report the mosquito trap count yet?
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2 minutes ago, Goon said:
From the USA Today.
to clarify this is cuomo's (cnn cuomo) wife christina.
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15 minutes ago, dynato said:
Also for anyone curious, Dartmouth put together a project to map current cases and recent case growth on a population basis. Not a single region in California is in the top 50 for cases on a population basis. Only one city, LA, is in the top fifty on a percentage case growth basis. California is doing surprisingly well compared to other states
lots of rich people in la holed up in their mcmansions that don't need to get tested, lots of homeless people in la holed up in their cardboard boxes that don't want to be tested, and a few people in the middle.
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just a thought but now that it's warmer out should grand forks close all the north/south streets downtown and put tons of park bench (socially distantly enough tho) in the streets and allow restaurants to serve food and drink outside? close kittson for urban stampede and rhombus pizza/brewery? bonzers could use the alley behind their building? or make the city square park one large open air dining area. just a thought
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3 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
Who's shocked by that? Same parents that would prefer to claim unemployment and have lockdown go until their kids graduate HS.
if it saves even one life.....
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6 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
1119 tests....most in single day for ND. 39 positives.
two more weeks....
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6 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:
Could we start with the two gun slingers pictured in this article?
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/04/coronavirus-protests/610363/
Or maybe the 150 people in Bismarck earlier this week seen standing shoulder to shoulder, shaking hands, and talking into loudspeakers into 40 mile per hour winds? Didn't they hear, the president never asked them to liberate North Dakota.
gun slingers...nice.
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2 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said:
Based on watching him at the podium it was clear to me that he was being literal. If you watch BIrx when he was talking you can see that she was mortified and thought so too.
I don't believe he thinks through a lot of what he says but he starts riffing and can't stop himself from going off on wild tangents.
Last night the WH claimed that he didn't say it. Today it is that he was being sarcastic. You are saying that he wasn't literal.
which is why his rallies had sold out arenas and hillary had to have jay z open for her (then they all left)
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1 minute ago, Redneksioux said:
Trump's not the moron. It's his fish tank cleaning, chloriquine ingesting, liberation protesting followers that can lay claim to this name.
"liberation protesting"...please explain
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11 minutes ago, dlsiouxfan said:
I was just adding some context to your question..... To answer, Obama is light years more intelligent than Trump. Trump is a total moron who's functioning at the intellectual level of a 4 year old.
u still haven't answered the question.
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7 minutes ago, dlsiouxfan said:
Obama unfroze $6 billion of Iranian cash that was sitting US bank accounts in exchange for Iran suspending their nuclear program. Trump tore that up and now Iran has re-started the program. Trump is letting North Korea develop and enhance nukes in exchange for a few love letters from time to time.
you didn't answer the question.
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6 minutes ago, tnt said:
"any other route"? What, are gerbils going to administer it?
ask richard gere
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6 minutes ago, dlsiouxfan said:
Trump could control the narrative a little more if he actually took the time to prep for these briefings and didn't just utter every idiot thought that entered his head. It's not the media's fault that he repeatedly says insanely moronic statements at these.
what's more dangerous...saying things like maybe hydroclorquine and z pac "maybe should be looked into" or giving iran 6 billion dollars......in cash? whose the moron here.
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15 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:
Does this even crack the the top ten most ridiculous statements made by our president over the past three months?
how you give us your top 100...but all of them have to be in context...give two minutes of text before the ridiculous statement and two minutes after please.
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1 minute ago, UND1983 said:
Ask yourself this: if we didn't have social media or a fully developed internet would we even be doing any of this right now?
no...i keep asking people if the media would've done this exact same thing (woldometer, scare tactics, bad formulas) for the 2018 common flu (or 2017 not sure which was "worse") could they have scared people into locking themselves up for two months?
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if you were a business person looking to open a business of some sort I really hope they look at ND, SD, and Nebraska as potential sites to open/build bc our govenors didn't shut down entirely.
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4 hours ago, yzerman19 said:
I find it interesting that two heavily populated states with very left governors have seen such dramatically different results...CA and NY...
If the Federal government is so culpable, why are these otherwise similar states having such different results? NYC is more dense than The Bay Area and LA, but not on the order of magnitude of the covid delta...
could it be that healthcare is local and local decision making, such as the mayor of SF shutting things down immediately is actually the driver?
I mean the USA is bigger than Europe...I say you compare States to Coubtries over there...Germany much different results than Italy, just like CA and NY....
subway lines....get on grab a hand rail...still tired so rubbing your eyes and mouth and yawning ...on there for 20,40, 60 minutes with people being replaced at every stop.
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one of the grossest interviews i have ever seen.
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3 minutes ago, tnt said:
If we have gone to great lengths to protect the vulnerable people, does anyone else find it concerning that over 70 percent of deaths in Minnesota happened in nursing or eldercare homes?
isn't that where most old people go right before they die?
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biked thru campus the other day...can't tell if they will be traffic stop lights on univeristy or if they will just be flashing lights for pedestrians to cross university...looks to be quite a few between the union and the coulee (they are covered with bags and non-functioning which is why i can't tell what they are)