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1 hour ago, SiouxFan100 said:
Is this just posters dreams and wishes or is there any discussion amongst college presidents on any of this?
who knows...all i know is that the nchc was started with this kind of thinking and whether you like it or not it has worked out well both for the smaller schools "left behind" and the bigger schools "moving forward"....
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16 minutes ago, ND-fan said:
I have a few questions the switch to different conferences weren't there additional costs to joining the conferences. Also weren't there still be on going costs for those programs that were cut because commitments to coaches and players to be honored. Also the football program has had no decrease in costs for travel now with us continuing to play a Big Sky schedule. To me all this leading up to we won't know what final numbers for expenses and revenue for UND will be until the transitions are fully complete. Also on the revenue side of things Summit did nothing to help with scheduling of games this year to help promote attendance. Having all three of bigger rivalry games scheduled on Wednesday nights hard to promote on middle of the week games and then we in return get weekend games with all three on the road. I don't see where either NDSU or UND move up a division in football. The first thing is neither one of them have the money to compete at that level. Go look at these FBS programs they are spending money on their football like we spend on all of our sports some of them are paying their coaching staffs over 50% of what we are spending on all sports. Then add in it will require new stadium that at least seats between 40 to 50 thousand people this alone would require expenditure of over 100 million to get it built. Then it also comes to filling that stadium and it will not be like it is now where your consistent winner year in year out . I just don't see it in the cards now or even in the future. I know there are FBS schools with smaller stadiums but I don't think the economics are there if you don't get increase in attendance to compete in upper division. From what I can read there are a lot in FBS division that are really struggling to make it work and it may not work for the long term. The summit conference could use could use couple more members to help with scheduling and also get better travel planning. It seems to me that Northern Colorado would be likely member to be part of Summit conference. Also what happens to NDSU on budgeting if the program comes back to rest of pack in Football where they just don't see the success they have had in playoffs how does that effect there budgets and revenue. They have had very good run but like all things luck changes where you can be successful but may not be winning repeated championships how will that effect them long term I can't help but think revenue will drop for them.
no fees to enter or exit any of the 3 conferences....travel is probably a wash...trading moscow, missoula, and bozeman for fort wayne, macomb, and oral roberts.....and FBS is availalbe down the road if it makes sense...it works for the MAC and Sun Belt and our finances and endowments are just as good if not better than a lot of schools in the MAC and Sun Belt.
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Endowments for the new WAC
Denver University-711 million
UND-270 million
Idaho-238 million
USD-215 million
Seattle University-211 million
NDAC-202 million
Montana-177 million
SDAC-122 million
Montana State-120 million
Essentially trading Seattle (211 Million), Montana (177 Million) , Montana State (120 Million), and Idaho (238 Million) for Western Illinois (60 Million), Omaha (72 Million), Oral Roberts (38 Million), and PU-Fort Wayne(60 Million)
746 Million versus 230 Million
New WAC Endowment=1.7 Billion for 9 schools
New Big Sky Endowment=620 for 9 schools
New Summit Endowment=548 plus Grand Canyon for 11 schools
Denver, UND, Idaho, USD, Seattle, and Montana all have Law Schools
UND and USD have Medical Schools
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didn't know that cal-state bakerfield is leaving the WAC for the Big West...i know that bozeman, missoula, grand forks, fargo, brookings, and vermillion in the winter time aren't the most beautiful....but when it comes to athletics aren't you supposed to strive to play higher echelon of competition (and academics too maybe!!).....for a school like Seattle why are you associating yourself with dixie state, cal baptist, grand canyon, chicago state, utah valley, utgrvr...and soon metro state?
siouxvolley is 100 percent correct...the commishs the big sky, summit, and wac need to pickup the phone and "trade schools" and the schools with football all end up in the WAC and have a plan to jump to FBS in the next 5-10 years with the goal of being the MAC of the West....Western Athletic Conference.
WAC
Montana, Montana State, UND, NDAC, USD, SDAC, Idaho, Seattle, and Denver (7 FB, 9 Total)
Summit
Chicago State, UM-KC, Fort Wayne, Western Illinois, Omaha, Oral Roberts, Texas-Rio Grande, Grand Canyon, Dixie State, Cal Baptist, and NMSU (WIU drops FB or closes and NMSU gets a FBS conference invite down the road?...)
Big Sky
Weber State, Sac State, Portland State, EWU, NAU, SUU, UVU, Northern Colorado, Idaho State (UVU adds FB?....)
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2 hours ago, SWSiouxMN said:
When Rebraca puts on 15-20 pounds and can bang inside a little more and be more selective in blocking shots he will be a force.
agreed...
fil>marko
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58 minutes ago, Cratter said:
Is that also why they are no longer at the Wal-Mart's either?
not sure...just heard that the new owners of the buidling on wash asked too much for rent and they walked...down the street
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39 minutes ago, dmksioux said:
Although I agree that GF has too many Subways (do people even eat at Subways anymore?), this "new Subway" is replacing the Subway on 24th ave S. So it's not adding an additional store to the market, just relocating.
rent got too high at the "Food and Drinks" emporium on 24th and washington...
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28 minutes ago, streetsahead said:
New Starbucks opening at the old Arby's/Sweeto Burrito/Sickies, etc location. If anyone can succeed there it's gonna be them.
The "old starbucks" has their new Subway sign up on 13th and washington...gotta be getting close to opening?
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19 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said:
Both
yeah...might be too late for keienan tho.
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7 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said:
Rebraca's goal for the offseason: Add 20 lbs.
u mean walters right?
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10 minutes ago, bison73 said:
WBB yes. The other womens sports are doing pretty good.
pretty good=FBS invitation
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22 minutes ago, Milo said:
Athletic budgets this size aren’t successful with a full slate of D1 sports and hockey. All the others are still D2 with hockey. Omaha dropped football to properly fund their other sports.
UND has already dropped a lot of sports and cut back on their Big Sky adventure by retreating to the cheaper Summit and MVFC. There are fund raisers for basic safety equipment. Coordinators and other staff coaches get their start here and the head coaches aren’t very successful. The pay scale is too low. The budget model doesn’t work. It needs 2-5 million more to compete in D1 hockey and football.
There isn’t going to be any FBS move. It would be a disaster. The admin would never approve of the move unless something material changes.
have u seen the current state of female athletics at the ndac??? somewhere amy ruley is cutting up pictures of comrade chapman.
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3 hours ago, Milo said:I don’t think there is going to be any huge changes. It’s looking more and more like NDSU will get an FBS invite of some kind. The rest of us might rearrange the deck chairs a bit.
Their success on the field is the result of that entire athletic department transforming itself into a wall-to-wall juggernaut. Their success is huge financially, with the fans and on the field. They have been building it for a generation or more and it’s really growing into something very impressive and primed for growth.
Some people are starting to wonder if UND will even keep football. The Omaha model for athletic budgets this size is more workable if you want D1 basketball. otherwise a full slate of sports using the UMD model of D1 hockey D2 football and other sports is successful for the schools using it. We just don’t have the money to compete at this level in all sports. By trying to do it, all sports are suffering.
funniest post of the year so far......
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2 hours ago, zonadub said:
After a couple of years with the new nickname, I still cannot refer to the teams as Fighting Hawks. First, if it had to be an animal, why a bird? If it had to be a bird, why the 321st rendition of a hawk? Heck there are Red Hawks playing baseball in Fargo and Blue Hawks playing NAIA in Dickinson. And then, if it had to be a hawk, why the modifier "fighting"? Hawks don't fight, in real life hawks are often chased and harassed by little birds. They try to get away.
I did buy a Fighting Hawks headcover for 1 of my golf clubs to go with the old interlocking ND ones. Still not particularly fond of the name.
Also have a set of Brien logo headcovers, bought at the end of the Fighting Sioux era, that may make an appearance one of these days.
every time someone complains about the new logo/name...........it......could....have been worse!!!!
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11 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:
Because he was a back ally abortion of a qb coach and OC.
i still look back and wonder about bubba's judgement or talent evaluating for coaches and or players if rudy was such a hard coach to coach against!!!!??????
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time for danny f to win this recruiting battle...missed on case to fbs but this is fcs v fcs...time for danny to get this one.
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1 hour ago, SWSiouxMN said:
At least the Thurs/Sun BSC stuff was consistent.... when the Summit gets to 10, I hope they go back to that instead of this "Everyday is a game" Summit plan.
consistent but still no fan friendly...for schools that close to their partner (und/ndac...usd.sdac) to to friday/saturday....for schools like denver and iupiui go friday eve/sunday afternoon...and for the love of god bring back umkc instead of adding augie@!
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after seeing the pathetic crowds after rejoining the ncc 2.0 why doesn't the league switch to the old ncc 1.0 scheduling format....every friday and saturday night at 7pm...true travel partners for every team (with augie or umkc joining the leauge)...but those BSC thursday/sunday stuff or the summit's random wed/thrusday/sunday stuff sucks....and i don't care if there is hockey next door at the exact same time as basketball.
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22 hours ago, UNDBIZ said:
How about they clear the snow from the grass in the winter and have parking on it?
they do that at purpur
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5 hours ago, gfhockey said:
I’d laugh if ralston gets suspended again. Jones walked off in middle of post game interview. He’s just so awkard
not sure if anyone saw but sometime in the first half jonesy called a to and as the team was walking past him he slowly ripped up a small piece of paper up about six times right in someone's face (not sure if it was intended for the whole team or just one player in particular)....very odd grandstanding by jones.
worst game i've been too since we beat umc by 1 on a 50 foot bank shot about ten years ago
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don't forget omaha's wrasslin' team.........
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6 minutes ago, tnt said:
So they are going to put the 4 old video boards in the 4 corners of the upper deck?
above the large floodlight perches?
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4 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:
Uh, um, ... FIPPA is Canadian law. Pretty sure that doesn't apply to the University of North Dakota ... unless what Gopher fans have claimed all those years really is true.
hadju=canadian (makes sense now)
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1 minute ago, geaux_sioux said:
And keeping the sioux thing on the bottom. Cut the damn chord already.
no chance.
Conference Realignments - Take 2
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The West/Midwest needs one more FBS conference......BBWF....Bring Back WAC Football