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  1. 5 minutes ago, Goon said:

    I noticed that too, that Grand Forks has put closed signs on playgrounds. Are they going to arrest people that don't comply?

    i normally don't bike on the south end...i normally go past the skater park and that playground i've seen plenty of people using that park over the last few weeks but i biked past the pond by king walk and there were signs and then the park a few blocks south of happy harrys had a sign and like all good nodaks both of those parks were 100% empty

  2. 3 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

    Montana "stay at home" order expired yesterday. Montana gets back to business today. Retail stores can open. Places of worship/churches opened their doors yesterday. Bars, restaurants, breweries can open 5/4. Schools can open 5/7. Montana has 300K more in population yet they have performed almost 8000 less tests than ND. Their positive hit rate is around 3.5%. ND's is slightly above 4%. Drumbeat from day 1.....save lives and flatten curve for the hospitals. MT 14 deaths. 61 total hospitalizations. ND 17/71. MT governor is.........a Democrat. What am I missing? Or the better question is.....What is Doug missing?

    is ours a rhino and theirs a rhido?  on my bike ride on saturday night i noticed signs up at a few playgrounds around town saying they were closed?  wtf?

  3. 13 hours ago, gfhockey said:

    All the homeless people tho are just partying cause they can’t get in the mission drunk. 

    there was a group of about 12 walking down behind the toasted frog...wouldn't say all of them looked homeless but the few i saw face to fact while biking by looking high or drunk...one guy on the corner with the sign gave up after a bit and was walking back to town square park where the other half dozen were sitting 

  4. 3 minutes ago, keikla said:

    I've often seen throughout this thread that those who are at risk should quarantine while everyone else should be able to carry on as is.  I'm just curious how people envision the logistics of that, since that could include a rather large portion of the US workforce.  Here's a couple of scenarios I'm interested in what people think about:

    1. Sally is 35yo with type 1 diabetes.  She and her dr feel that she is at risk, and she should quarantine.  She works for a company where the work could be done from home, but the employer wants people to actually be in the office for various reasons.  Does the employer have to let Sally work from home?  Does Sally have to disclose health issues (even if it's just a generic dr note) to her employer?  

    2. Bob is 53 (remember, our stats on the low mortality stop at age 49) and just beat cancer a few months ago.  He is a chef at a very busy restaurant.  Obviously his work cannot be done from home, but his dr feels that he is very at risk and should quarantine.  Is Bob's employer required to still pay him when he can't come in to work?  Does he only get paid if he has available sick leave/vacation days?  He's already out of annual FMLA coverage because of his cancer treatments.  Does Bob get furloughed/fired based on his health status?  Does any of this change if it were health issues that Bob could possibly mitigate (i.e obesity, certain patients with high blood pressure)?

    I'm not trying to be facetious; I'm genuinely interested in how people seeing the logistics play out.  If covid becomes an annual issue with the same deadly strain (as opposed to a weaker strain), these questions very well may need to be answered.

    good questions but you can't shut down the entire world trying to answer these questions. you just can't

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  5. biked thru campus the other day...can't tell if they will be traffic stop lights on univeristy or if they will just be flashing lights for pedestrians to cross university...looks to be quite a few between the union and the coulee (they are covered with bags and non-functioning which is why i can't tell what they are)

  6. 2 minutes ago, keikla said:

    I didn't say that he shouldn't be able to.  In fact, I specifically said that's not what I'm saying.  What I'm saying is that I don't find the stat they used in that article to be useful or applicable to a lot of people.

    sorry didn't say you...just maybe some of the govs that have lockdowns til mid june based on faulty numbers...

  7. 22 minutes ago, keikla said:

    Right, but when decisions were initially being made, we didn't know what that death rate would be.  Many extreme decisions were made based on early/minimal data and applied nationwide.  Can/should things be re-evaluated now?  Absolutely.  But just like the shutdowns weren't one size fits all, also the removal of restrictions shouldn't be.

    I will say that I find it interesting how people manipulate stats to prove their point.  This is nothing new.  Heck, even in sports people will say "so-and-so is 11-1 in their last 12" because going back further than that would show they were 11-9 overall.  It's all about picking your data sets and ranges to make the numbers look the way you want them to.  This is not something that is political, because everyone and every side does it.  Even when reviewing new medical research, I always make a point to analyze how they manipulated the stats...who they eliminated from the study and why, what effects that exclusion likely had on outcome, did they use the appropriate statistical tests based on data type, etc..

    This article is looking at deaths per 100,000 of those who are under 50 and have no comorbidities.  Nationally, roughly 1/3 adults have high blood pressure and 40% of adults >20 years old meet the criteria for obesity.  Obviously, there is likely to be a lot of overlap between those two groups but not everyone.  That's A LOT of people being excluded from the stat this article is using to show how this virus isn't a big deal.  I can't emphasize enough that I'm not saying that the lockdowns were right or wrong or now how much they should be loosened.  Especially not on a national level.  My firsthand experience showed me that the lockdown helped immensely in the heavily affected areas of NY, but NY is a different ballgame with this thing.  And even then, NY needs to find a safe way to slowly ease the grip.  I'm just pointing out that using the 5 deaths per 100,000 in the healthy under 50 group for the rationale doesn't make a ton of sense when a large portion of the general population doesn't fit into that stat.

    thats fine but why should darnell who is 35 and owns his own barber shop(s) and is 6'0 175lbs and walks an hour every day of the week not be able to give a haircut to a customer because darrell who is 48 and 5'8 275lbs and watches romcoms everynight after work is "at risk"

  8. 6 minutes ago, GeauxSioux said:

    Agree or disagree, there are some valid points here.....https://www.zerohedge.com/health/ripple-effects-government-lockdown-are-only-starting-take-shape

    You would not, in the slightest, in any kind of sane world, shut down an entire economy and lock down everything when you have a 5 per 100,000 death rate for the overwhelming share of the population.

    in a country where school is canceled bc its "too cold"...not snowing or blizzarding...."too cold" i can see it yeah.

  9. is the death of a 90 plus year old from any ailment worthy of breaking news on the the heraldo webpage anymore...is it time to report the mosquito trap count yet?

  10. 15 minutes ago, dynato said:

    Also for anyone curious, Dartmouth put together a project to map current cases and recent case growth on a population basis. Not a single region in California is in the top 50 for cases on a population basis. Only one city, LA, is in the top fifty on a percentage case growth basis. California is doing surprisingly well compared to other states

    https://test.dartmouthatlas.org/hrr-mapping/

    lots of rich people in la holed up in their mcmansions that don't need to get tested, lots of homeless people in la holed up in their cardboard boxes that don't want to be tested, and a few people in the middle.

  11. just a thought but now that it's warmer out should grand forks close all the north/south streets downtown  and put tons of park bench (socially distantly enough tho) in the streets and allow restaurants to serve food and drink outside?  close kittson for urban stampede and rhombus pizza/brewery? bonzers could use the alley behind their building? or make the city square park one large open air dining area.  just a thought

  12. 6 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:

    Could we start with the two gun slingers pictured in this article?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/04/coronavirus-protests/610363/

    Or maybe the 150 people in Bismarck earlier this week seen standing shoulder to shoulder, shaking hands, and talking into loudspeakers into 40 mile per hour winds? Didn't they hear, the president never asked them to liberate North Dakota.

    gun slingers...nice.

  13. 2 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said:

    Based on watching him at the podium it was clear to me that he was being literal.  If you watch BIrx when he was talking you can see that she was mortified and thought so too. 

    I don't believe he thinks through a lot of what he says but he starts riffing and can't stop himself from going off on wild tangents.  

    Last night the WH claimed that he didn't say it.  Today it is that he was being sarcastic. You are saying that he wasn't literal. 

    which is why his rallies had sold out arenas and hillary had to have jay z open for her (then they all left)

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