siouxfan512

I like just North Dakota, but accept that it probably will not happen and for fair reasons. I am good with NoDaks. I am all about Roughriders, if the others do not work out. Anything else should basically be dismissed now.

Nope, I was reading too fast trying to catch up on posts, totally misread

Seriously? You know what a sundog is, right?

Completely agree, I've been saying that for a while Nodaks would be a way of basically keeping North Dakota, but with a nickname

Good lord, that hadn't even crossed my mind. Seriously, they are stretching for ways to eliminate options they don't want.

I'm not quite as worried about the energy of the staff, as much as the skill of our players. I feel like we have been waiting for the quarterbacks to live up to their potential since they were brought in, especially Mollberg, who was really hyped up. Hopefully this is a breakout year for him (or Bartels, or Studsrud), and hopefully Georges and Reed will stretch the field a bit. Our offense doesn't have to win us games, but it does need to keep us competitive and chew up the clock while our D dominates.

Love the optimism here, and I think we all agree that our D will be our strength; but i need to see some answers on offense before I'm willing to state we have a shot at the conference title. Really hope that is the case though. We should learn alot in the first 3 week by how we compete with Wyoming and NDSU. It is essential that we are competitive and make those close games. This team really needs an FBS win to get some momentum, we have come close in the past, but it is time to win one. Very excited for the season to start!

My thoughts exactly

For sure, there isn't a season the goes by that we cannot win a title. Hasn't quite happened yet, but we have certainly been capable.

gotta kick em out the same night, less to worry about in the morning. Back on topic .... I need more football new. I'm way too pumped for football season right now.

My irritation with the committee has nothing to do with whether they do or do not like my personal choices. When you give any legitimate consideration to Bison Slayers, or some of the other names that made the initial cut, it casts doubt on how serious you are taking the job. A handfull of people may think that is funny or clever, but as a committe that is supposed to be doing what is best for the University, you need to look beyond a handfull of people. If only a handfull of people supported the use of "North Dakota/No Nickname", I think the same approach would apply. However, many support that option, and do think it is in the best interest of the University (whether that is right or wrong is a who different argument). So, my opinion of the committee is really based on what I have seen them do and not do, not on if they pick my favorite choice. I know I am not the only one to express concerns on this either.

Probably not, but it really would give them a good concenscus of what people think.

Whatever, I'm for North Dakota. If that is not cool, then I guess Roughriders and Cavalry, but please please please not Spirit, Pride or other intangibles. Its just embarassing.

The point you fail to capture is that not everyone want to remain North Dakota because they wasn to be the unofficial Fighting Sioux. Sure there is a group of people that have that reasoning, but that same group of people will refer to UND as the Fighting Sioux regardless. A lot of us just prefer North Dakota over the other options that have been presented. Now I'll admit that Roughriders and even Cavalry have grown on me, but I still don't love them. And I certainly prefer No Nickname over Spirit, Blaze, Pride, Sun Dogs, etc. So when you are going to rant about something becoming ridiculous, check the rest of your jibberish at the door. Essentially, what you said was "if you have an opinion thats fine, but you're opinion is wrong so shut up". Ultimately the most ridiculous part was your comments. As we have said before, first step should be for the university to confirm with the NCAA if North Dakota can be used, then publicly state it. That would alleviate alot of argument right there.

Incredibly sad. Apparently the committee only represents itself and its opinions. Supposed to represent the school and those with a vested interest in the school (ticketholders, students, alumni), oddly those opinions don't seem to be reflected through public statements like his. Its almost as though the committee is saying "We need to make it appear as though we care what people think, but actually we already have an agenda in place" Hope this get done the right way.

So much for that. I would have expected a little more from Dave St Peter too.

If this is true, I've lost ALL respect for him.

It seems like we have two arguments here: 1. Do we pick a new name or have no nickname? Strong opinions on both sides of the argument, all of which are very understandable 2. Is no nickname an option? or would that leave us in violation of the agreement with the NCAA? This argument hinders the outcome our our first argument, and there is not one person on this message board who is not speculating on the actual answer, and can give a definitive truth to whether or not the NCAA would accept remaining just "University of North Dakota". As has been mentioned, the first thing this task force and President Kelley need to do is confirm with the NCAA whether or not North Dakota/No Nickname is an acceptable path. If they have already done so, they need to make it crystal clear to the public. This would clear the way to make a informed vote on our first argument. -If the NCAA approves the use of remaining University of North Dakota, there will be much debate as to what we will be going forward and why. As I stated earlier both sides of this argument hold merit. -If the NCAA does not approve the use of remaining University of North Dakota, we all save ourselves alot of debate and discussion and will likely move forward with Roughriders (based on the conscensus of these threads). There are alot of strong and conflicting opinions on this website, but I do believe the vast majority are in the consencus that we do not want the intangible names. If Spirit, Pride, Blaze, Force are in the top 3 then this committee is not doing their job (A job which to an extent they have already not been doing).

Agreed, I think that would put the majority of this argument to rest. If "North Dakota" is acceptable, it will likely be the favorite. If "North Dakota" is not acceptable. Roughriders will likely be the favorite. But we should at least have all of the information, prior to a vote.

well put

haha, nice. I didn't even catch that one first time around.

ok, here is my summation from other threads. North Dakota has been my 1st pick. Roughriders is my second, Cavalry is surprisingly not too bad. Disappointed Nokota didn't make the top 15, and I think Flickertails is better than the majority of that list. I DO understand why there are people who want a new nickname, and if that is there opinion then I respect that. What I don't respect is trying to use BS logic and trying to play pseudo lawyer to demean other people's opion that University of North Dakota would be a suitable option. I am incredibly disappointed in the list put out by this committee, but as other posters pointed out ... anyone who even entertains Bison Slayers as a legitimate option, should not be taken seriously. Overall this entire process has been a pathetic failure. SO .... North Dakota or NoDaks Roughriders (like some of the logos ideas that have been tossed around) Cavalry

But I'm already so tired from having this argument on like 5 other threads

All hail Mafia! This is so true. It is the direction of this situation, the country and world. Nobody can have hurt feelings, everybody gets a trophy, nobody loses and everybody wins (except for those with opposing view). All view matter, unless they are not PC. Scary stuff, and a mentality I will definitely not use to raise my children. Go out, play the game, play hard, if you lose, you work hard and try again. So sick of this liberal, PC bull. Spot on Mafia.

Let's not get crazy now... haha