UNDvince97-01

Understood. But it's so bad in the red with no ROI is my point.

The Ralph loses money on Womens Hockey. They'd be more profitable without it. With our Olympian twin sisters, who are/were great, we didn't even make the final 4 did we? Correct me if I' wrong. That was the peak. There is zero chance of revenue potential. How would you offset 2 million dollars of operating budget when you are bringing in around $20,000 or so in revenues? Title IX is not an issue for cutting womens hockey. Fallacy. It can be done. I promise. Who are these big contributors? There are none. Not even Marvin Windows. Who else?

Our DC Eric Schmidt.

Just want to state this again...

Hence, UND is, has been and always will be the "flagship" university in the state of North Dakota. By most all measures.

The Citadel always seems to play well against SEC competition. They beat South Carolina 2 years ago I believe.

I believe hes going to Maine.

You trying to "one-up" Bison Dan or what? Good job bud. Thumbs up.

Dan, what's it like being................... ....you?

Yes that is correct. I'm aware of the gindorff commitment. He's 40 minutes down the road from me. Then they offered Zeke Ott this week as a TE. Ndsu offered him.

Ha! Yep, good point.

Listen dummy... ndsu offered Zeke Ott a scholarship. Not as a DE. As a TE. Zeke told them no. Now take a lap. EDIT: Because Zeke said no to ndsu, it appears that the "next man up" for ndsu could be USD TE commit Jensen from Wayzata.

Got me to laugh out loud.

There was absolutely disappointment from that aspect from many here, including myself. The timeframe was ridiculous. I agree. I'm saying many here were very disappointed that Bubba was the choice, regardless of the time frame. Jamie Marshall, Jeff Mills, Robin Pflugrad etc. "New Blood" with "D1 head coaching experience". Some were even giving Deboer more time than Bubba to turn it around because he was a UND guy. In a siouxports.com poll, 60% favored Kalen over Bubba here. "With Bubba it's 3 years.." I love the fact that you can search the forum archives here.

Im just asking again because I never got an answer 8 days ago. My understanding was that his theory was based on UND not going Summit/MVFC. That it would NEVER happen. I'm honestly just wondering if this changes his thought process but I havent heard anything yet.

I remember the day Bubba was named head coach. I wont name names, but many here were so disappointed and upset that the national search had yielded Bubba Schweigert. Turns out "Lowell Schweigert's circle of friends and influence" were right in the end. I'm guessing and hoping the end result for UND in the Summit/MVFC will be similar. We will see. I hope I'm right.

Ok what now, SiouxVolley? If it becomes official today after the vote, what happens?

Did we just close the doors on the University or change from the Big Sky Conference to the Summit/MVFC? Some pros, some cons. Some losses, some gains. Overall it's a net gain in my opinion and we have some opportunities now we didn't have before. I understand and respect the frustration by some here who had personal preferences for the BSC. I even agree with some of them. However, this is the BEST move for UND right now given all the variables in my dumbass opinion.

Perhaps...maybe say....2020'ish?

I will defer to SiouxVolley on that one. He has all the details.

Grab your Summit pom poms...

Lol. Respectfully, what are you talking about? Do you have any idea what is going on and what needs to be done to fix it? You haven't been paying attention apparently. Who ever said "lets cut womens sports and be done with it"? We have to cut mens or womens or both to fix the problem, which nobody "likes" but is the unfortunate sad truth. Whichever makes the most sense. Womens Hockey happens to make a lot of sense and it has NOTHING to do with people "liking" or "disliking" Womens Hockey. By the way, I LOVED UND Baseball. How bout you?

The University has said many things regarding the budget and athletics over the past 3 years. Many of which have proven not to be true.

Kennedy will cut sports. Take it at face value, but book it. His hand is being "forced" this time. Cut womens hockey and the requisite Title IX mens sports for compliance and be done with it. Schafer whiffed and now Kennedy has whiffed. 3rd time is a charm. Right now, there could be a lawsuit from the mens side of the equation for title IX. We are over the compliance requirements in the opposite direction. And how can Faison survive this without being held accountable by 3 different Presidents?

Ok......but you have always said you don't believe for a second we are going to the Summit, correct? Do you still believe there's no way that happens? I guess I thought you said we would never go Summit because of your WAC theories? Forgive me if I'm incorrect on this. I'm just a big dummy trying to connect the dots here. Like I said, I like your ideas to a certain extent and so do others here, but just not sure how it happens any time in the near future. I hope you are 100% correct on the huge gift for a new stadium.