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Watkins goes. Gee, we're not playing very smart right now.

Radke for elbowing. Pretty obvious penalty. Don't know why Radke was so upset.

Yeah, but he basically had an open net. dagies- I should clarify: Oshie hasn't been even sub-superb in every aspect other than that this season. He's amazing. Just snakebitten offensively.

Snake bitten. Any questions?

Cartright for Holding. Sioux PP. Let's make it 20 shots on the PP! P.S.THanks Sioux Hab It and SMoggy.

Some impressions thus far: Phil Lamoreaux has had a stellar game so far. I'm not sure why he flicked the puck down the ice at a stoppage in play early in the second period, though. Rylan Kaip vs. Chad Anderson: I don't know who got the better of whom. I guess Kaip got the better of him, but Kaip took Anderson down by the jersey, not by the fist. Thoughts? I don't know what to make of the defense tonight. When UAA enters the zone they've been able to keep it there for significant periods of time. Bina and Chorney have been stellar. Finley has been quietly good. Lee made one mistake early (Chorney came in to help so no harm no foul) but has been solid since. Jones been good too. I don't know. At least we're more physical. Oshie got a goal (though to be honest, I think Chorney's shot would have gone in regardless) which is good. Toews has been really good! Chris Porter has played a good game. Hey, Sterling, your thoughts? Nah, just demote him anyways. I'm NOT impressed with Beaverson. I can't imagine why Beaverson didn't get an extra two for kicking Fabian in the head. EDIT: Forgot to add: 11 shots on goal on the powerplay tonight. Anyone confused as to why we scored 2 goals on the powerplay tonight?

Nobody wants to go back there. So, let me ask you this: How do we make Hakstol pay for Oshie's misses last night? They could have put the game away. How do we make Hakstol responsible for getting the puck into the net? I mean, he wrote the plays and last night the plays worked except nobody finished. Uh, so that's Hakstol's fault? Let's put this in an NHL context. Recently Dallas' Patrick Stefan (a high first round pick at one point) missed an empty net goal. Should Dave Tippett be held responsible for Patrick's miss? In 2003, in the NHL something historic happened then (along the lines of UAA and MTU but in an NHL context). Tampa Bay won the Stanley Cup. Why is that historic? Because, by the UAA/MTU logic, Tampa Bay shouldn't win more than 10% of their games. They have always been a doormat. Same with the Hurricanes. OH! Let's revisit some other teams. Pittsburgh, Edmonton, Montreal, and the Blackhawks have garnered much past Cup victories. They haven't really competed since (except Edmonton). I think their head coaches should be fired until they get a head coach that can make them all win the Stanley Cup or finish in the top end of their league every single year. In 1995, New Jersey won the Stanley Cup with Martin Brodeur and arguably the least amount of talent otherwise compared to other playoff teams and even other Stanley Cup victors. Again, this shouldn't have happened. Anyways, it's not bad to be disappointed with the Sioux's performance, but I can definitely see why UAA and MTU are dangerous this year. Everyone thinks just like some of us do: UAA/MTU are patsies. So the players take the games for granted. Wow. Has it worked for UND yet? It should have by the reasoning provided here. Anyways, yeah. This year thus far has been a disappointment. Players haven't been able to finish plays. Who is accountable for that? THE PLAYERS. So, yeah, fire Hakstol.

Finley laid a bunch of people out last night around the boards. Lee cleared the front of the net physically. Genoway I didn't notice that much. Toews was playing as hard as I've seen him. He just never tried to shoot the puck as much as he needed to. He made some fantastic plays just keeping control of the puck and then passing the puck to a wide open Oshie who, instead of finishing it, simply drove a deep puck indentation into Lawson's right leg pad. Sure, the gist of what you say is correct. We need to be more physical around our own net, especiall if Freisma (or whatever his name is) isn't going to call blatent penalties). I really think our latent mistrust of our PK units is affecting our physicality. I remember in previous years that players hit with wild abandon because we knew that if we got called, we were pretty sure we could kill it off. Now, we've never had the best PK in the nation or even the WCHA, but we had one that was good enough to get the job done more often than not. I don't think this team feels the same way at all.

PCM is right about my post. You need to reread it along with the Gothmog post I quoted. I didn't say we should discontinue funding. I said that since Gothmog claims that UND has no chance of working with the tribes in the next 30+ years, that we are merely insulting the tribes' intelligences by doing what we do to support them? It's ridiculous to assume that UND and the tribes cannot work together. The problem is that there is too much politics getting in the way. UND has said repeatedly "Let's work this out" to the tribes and some tribal leaders have responded "Change the name and we'll work things out." (paraphrased) How is that compromise? How is that willingness to work with the University? If Gothmog is indeed correct and UND won't be able to work with the tribes, can UND be held responsible for such a breakdown if they are attempting to work with the tribes and the tribes refuse to work with UND? It seems more like the tribes' fault rather than the University's. Yet, everyone is willing to point fingers at UND because of a nickname and the fact that, like most of North Dakota, it is predominantly white. UND is also run like a business, not a commune akin to socialistic idiologies. Why that is worth noting because that seems to be the growing mindset among many minorities towards the white person and white-run industry. The White people should do everything in their power to make things easier for minorities to compete except expecting them to perform at the same level as white people. Why? Now, perhaps Gothmog or undsportsfan can help me answer this one. I thought the only difference intelligence wise between a Native American and a White person was... um... I don't know. I don't see any difference in intelligence between the two. Saying that there is would be like justifying people who long ago said that the reason why blacks are slaves is because they are incapable of thinking like a white man. So, if Native Americans are just as smart as White people (which I think they are), why can't they obtain the same level of qualification as white people and succeed accordingly? Why do maybe 51% of Native Americans graduate from high school and then many complain about how life is not treating them well compared to the white person, of which over 85% (hovering around 90% actually) graduate high school? The fact is that life isn't like some of the things you get on the reservation. You don't get a hefty sum of money on your 18th birthday. You don't get federal handouts based on present sympathies regarding past events in the real world. You fight to survive every day and many white people equate education as part of the fight. If you don't make it part of the fight, you don't succeed educationally and, hence, you start to see a disparity between yourself and the people you compete with. In American society, you have to work to get what you want. With that work comes a measure of conformity and adapting a mindset different from how you were raised. This midset and conformity don't necessarily mean eliminating your home culture. It means putting on a different face when you leave the home or community center. That's difficult for many people, not just Native Americans. I could give examples. However, it is never the fault of the person for not succeeding, it's some third party's fault. Time to stand up and take some of the blame yourselves for the toil and anguish you and your family endure. If that happens, then maybe they will in turn help others recognize it and then the 49% who don't have a high school diploma may go back for their GED and start thinking not about how to be a Native American in American society, but rather how to be an AMerican without losing my Native American heritage. No, this isn't just a Native American problem. This is a problem all over the place. Affirmative Action and quotas embody the same or similar things. I mean, would you feel good about yourself if you were hired not because you were best qualified for the job, but rather because there aren't enough Native Americans employed by the company and the company needed to fill that slot in order to avoid being labelled as a racist organization? SUre, you'd end up with a nice job. And I bet it would be difficult to back up and say "I will not be the company's pet" when the salary of the job will provide adequately for your family and it is a job you wanted to hold, qualified or not. Sorry I was late in response. But that's my perspective on this.

Yeah. It seemed to me both sides had attitude problems tonight.

Radke is a junior. Foyt is the senior.

If Oshie finished even ONE of his opportunities, does it matter what Lee does? Nope. Sioux win in regulation 4-3. I just find it amusing that some posters would rather blame Lee for one mistake rather than a bunch of other players for a bunch of mistakes and missed opportunities. Wasn't it either Bina, Porter, or Chorney that had the puck jump over his stick, which led to UAA's 2nd goal? Or was that somehow Lee's fault? Or Finley's? Maybe the Sioux losing can't be tied to team failings or missed opportunities. AZSioux is right. Hak should cut Lee and Finley. Maybe Vandevelde and Forney soon after that. Then, if Forney and VV need to be cut, Hak should cut Porter after all, he is the captain. Did Lee make a mistake? Yup. Does Lee deserve some criticism? Absolutely. Does Lee deserve the blame for the results tonight? Nope. Oshie, VV, Watkins, Toews, Porter, gosh who else? All had opportunities to put the game away. They didn't. That's why we didn't win. Mistakes happen in games. They do. There is NO F-ING WAY a team can play perfect hockey. NO WAY. So good teams find other ways to win. I think we couldn't finish and that's why we didn't get the result we needed.

I agree! And someone pack Finley's bags! It is interesting to see that Lee gets chastised for perhaps the only mistake of the game he made and yet no one touches Oshie's failure to miss on two gift passes, Watkins misses, and so on and so forth.

Anyone notice how many shots on the power play we had tonight? We steadily improved. The first Powerplay I saw was with something like 6 minutes left in the first. We had one shot on goal (Chorney from basically the blue line) and one shot attempt. The next power play we started shooting and we doubled it! Two shots on goal! And what happened the third power play? A GOAL! Catch the trend here? SHOOT THE DAMN PUCK! TJ Oshie is the most snake bitten player I've EVER SEEN. The guy had two gimmes and he found pad both times. MANY MANY MANY pucks seeming to bounce at just the right times (when they get to Sioux sticks), passes behind players, overskating... Seriously, folks. We need to communicate better on the ice and do more passing drills because we just can't catch a pass! No finishing and, in my opinion, in the third with about 10 minutes to go or thereabouts, we basically were playing to run out the clock. UAA worked their BUTTS off and they tied it up when Lammy couldn't stop the puck five hole. In all fairness, that was an unfortunate goal. Lammy played good, but his attitude was awful. He made a save in the second period with his glove and threw the puck out of his glove to the ice in a rather sour manner. In the third he got Really emotional. Two missed penalties I noticed: Watkins with the worlds most obvious goaltender interference call, went uncalled. UAA player with at least a boarding penalty on Oshie, no call. This was a frustrating tie. We needed a win. Well, let's face it. It's a toss up as to who is going to come out with more zip tommorrow. UAA fought back from a 2 goal deficit, which really boosts their morale and motivation. UND basically couldn't finish (theme of the year). Toss up tommorrow night as far as I am concerned.

Yeah, but we were spoiled by Oshie, Parise, Murray, Zajac, Stafford, and even Toews. I remember saying preseason that I expect Vandevelde to take the better part of his freshman year to start contributing. After all, it took the better part of his USHL season to really start contributing there. Forney spent the first half of the season recovering and getting over a pretty significant injury. They have been disappointing THUS FAR, but again, even if they don't really do much their freshmen year, I'm going to wait and see what will happen. Vandevelde and Forney have had flashes of greatness thus far. Scoring will come in time.

Calling Vandevelde a disappointment is one perspective. DAR is right. He hasn't scored any goals yet. But he's made some pretty darn good passes that should have been goals, had they been to a finisher. Look, I realize that performance is goal-related when it comes to wingers. I can't disagree with DAR in that regard. However, Vandevelde has played well despite not being able to make a pass to someone who can actually bury the puck. I really like what I've seen from our freshmen this year, but really, the claim that there are no impact freshmen in this class is sadly truthful. That being said, I was thinking that, with our sophomore class being as good as it was, I was thinking the reliance on impact would be coming from them.

The only MVP awards I know of are the Frozen Four MOP, Individual Regional MOP (MOP means Most Outstanding Player), the Final Five MOP, and the overall MOP, called the Hobey Baker Award (DI hockey's version of the Heisman). Only one UND player, Tony Hrkac, has won the Hobey Baker award.

I guess. I'd rather have players that come in and do well at the college level. I could care less what CSS, ISS, RedLine, or whatever think. If Minnesota has the #1 recruiting class for the next 100 years, but the Sioux do better on the ice for the next 100 years when it matters compared to Minnesota, I'll take that. Michigan has had the #1 recruiting class for a long time (or so people say over and over and over again) and really, where has it gotten them? Have they done anything since 1998? Please, Wheeler was drafted 5th overall and I'm still not impressed with him. Duncan wasn't drafted at all and he's tearing up the joint. Take your pick.

I wasn't surprised about the outcome. What I was surprised about was the labelling of the teams. "Favorite" tOSU.... favorite by what or whom? Certainly not the media. The "underdog" got all of the media attention. So how could Florida (aside from their 1 loss and their #2 ranking) be considered "underdog?" It seems that the only label of "underdog" that could be attributed to either team would be to tOSU, which recieved markedly less press attention and, therefore, less hype than Florida coming into the game. Sorry, if you are going to call a team an "underdog" you do it without raising the hype surrounding said team. Florida was never the "underdog."

Yup. I'm surprised U of I had an incident like this before us. The rumors going around that some of the more recent hostile tshirts and sweatshirts (like the ones on ebay) were commissioned by the antinicknamers could easily have moved over to websites claiming to support the nickname but are actually racist like that facebook page in a planted manner. I don't believe there is a racism problem at UND that cannot be resolved by using less drastic measures than what the antinicknamers wish to do. However, with what has happened on this site, I'm sure they'd plant a facebook site or other web site if they thought they could get away with it. I don't think they'd do it because they are criminally minded. I think they'd do it because their sense of right and wrong and their desperation to force their agenda on the majority would make them feel justified in doing so. Is that a racist belief? Nope. Why? Because of evidence provided by actions here on this site. Precedent means a lot.

I disagree. I think most every official is much better than Adam. With other officials, all you have going on the ice is a completely inconsistent viewpoint on the rulebook and rather poor performances. With Adam you still get that, PLUS the underlying precedent Adam has set regarding his belief (or rather lack thereof) on player safety. In other words, Adam is incompetant AND dangerous. The rest of the officials are just incompetant. Also, I'm not sure Derrek is the worst outside of Adam either. I've actually seen him call good games in the past. With Mason, Anderson, and Schmidt I've seen worse. I don't think Campion and Hunt are all that bad. Hunt is Pappa Shepherd's lap dog, meaning every call he seems to miss are calls that Greg Shepherd hasn't seen fit to enforce (mainly obstruction and interference penalties). Hunt and Campion have a tendency to let the boys play, which is good and bad. Maybe "Doug" is really brother/cousin/whatever Brad? My take on "be careful what you wish for" is that there isn't a team of angels on the ice. If the officials suddenly wake up and start calling the game the way the game should be called, it COULD at least temporarily hurt the Sioux. Our PK is getting better but still isn't very good.

He's Forsberg's and Mapletoft's linemate with the Sioux. Anyways, it's what I guess they are calling Michael Forney. I don't get it because it is the incorrect application of the term (whereas the FOrsberg reference to Glass Joe is more apt). Oh well.

Actually, the question is: Who will sign first this offseason? Toews or Johnson? Both will sign this offseason. I'm just interested to see which one sticks around this summer the longest.

Maybe in a slightly amusing turn of events (and backing up what Gretzky said about Roche), Denis Seidenberg (a defenseman) was traded today by the Coyotes to the Hurricanes for Kevyn Adams. It's amusing to me because Seidenberg was acquired by the Coyotes last year, a move that basically meant Matt Jones spending the year in the AHL despite getting rave reviews both in camp and at their developmental tourney (or whatever it is called). So, there's the answer to "who is going to go instead of Roche"

Not gonna happen with current leadership. That's what I'm saying.