stoneySIOUX

REALLY bad lol

HAHA that last point is fair and I knew it was coming. -1 is pretty bad when you have 27 points, honestly. When I heard UND was looking at Farmer, I watched A LOT of stuff on him and he was almost always partnered with Morrow. He was a major cog in Morrow's success. He allowed Morrow to be special inside the zone and was always getting back in position to cover for it. Anyway, I don't really wanna keep talking about this haha. Looking forward to this weekend and hopefully we can get back to scoring some goals.

HAHA that wasn't angled at you at all, man. Him not coming here was definitely not about his skill, I agree 100%. He is a stud. An offensive stud. I highly disagree with him playing defense. Maybe in pieces, but the dude does not play D consistently. We're a team that's struggled all year with gap play and getting out of position. He is consistently out of position. He's a -1 this season after being a +10 last year. I think Ty Farmer had A LOT to do with his success. Anyway, it was just a shot at the obsessions with the kid as a side effect of Bubbs' problems. Plus, we're in the wrong thread for this lol.

He's a fourth round draft pick and he's shown glimpses. Maybe he's just not playing well? That feels like a simple answer because frankly, he didn't play well when he got in.

Didn't say that "nothing" is wrong. Didn't even imply that. I'm only saying that there could be more to the story AND AGAIN, we're talking about a fourth liner (who will be very good for us through his career) and a 6/7th dman. Just a waste of energy.

Goodness, the obsession with Scott Morrow. For a group of people who hate how their team's defense plays, they want a guy who doesn't play defense from the blue line, like... AT ALL.

What is so controversial about a coach making lineup decisions? I think Strinden should be in the lineup, but maybe he's knicked up? Maybe he, heaven forbid, thinks other players need/deserve more ice time or they are better than other guys in the lineup. We're talking 4th liners and 6/7th defensemen. Is it necessary for Schloss to dig into this? Sometimes there are no behind-the-scene stories. Lather, rinse, repeat conversation about Johnson.

Yeah, among other things, apparently.

Are you talking like Major Junior or Junior A (CJHL)?

Took the words out of my mouth.

Or, that everyone loves each other no matter what otherwise you're a bad fan, the team plays hard, and they are good people.

Keep digging. It wasn't all about his performance. Yeah, no one is saying that bolded part. Why do we do this? Who said we shouldn't expect to make the tourney?

I'm hopeful by the end of the season that the kids that will be coming will be ready to rock. Need Mr. Frisch back very, very badly.

Dig into that one a bit more, Mafia.

I feel like that's an indication of good recruiting?

Is this a smart comparison? Considering revenue streams...

Hahaha feels like it, sometimes. It's so much circular talk, man. We all recognize this year is FUBAR. But at what point do we realize we're not honestly that far off from being where we want to be? If next year ends the way this year likely ends, I'd much more understand the incredible amount of angst. I honestly feel there's a large lack of perspective on the overall standing of the program. I can't in my right mind send the team to the hoards of the internet when I look at our current young pieces along with the pipeline we've built for the next handful of years.

NO. Jeebus, this is why this thread is MADDENING! If next season is like this one, it shows the lack of the ability to fix a problem. I'd be interested in other options. I've said this several times, too.

I wholly disagree with this being a slow team. I also wholly disagree that we play trap hockey. All good, though. That's your opinion.

Agreed. One really awful year. Throws out all the past at a potential risk for the future? Not for me, man. Playing style, I can see. I have no problem with a desire to mold our playing style. Recruiting is just wrong. Our pipeline is great and it's dumb we argue this. Goalie is in a bad situation, but one guy can fix that problem.

Many, many people have said they expect title wins every season. Whether they believe it or not, I can't tell you that. The bolded part is my problem. He's been INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL by all logical standards. Basically, he's been a top 5 coach nationally. This season happens, and it's all not enough.

THIS is my point. There's NO CHANCE we have a reasonable enough group of fans that could take a significant lull. Know why it was ok in UMD? Because no one really gave a crap. Much smaller fan base back then. Until we have a real understanding (when I say real, I mean people realizing that winning a national championship every year is just dumb and the competitive landscape has absolutely changed since the 90s and 2000s) of what SHOULD BE our expectations every year, this nonsense argument of wanting to get rid of a coach every season will just never stop. I guess the moral of the story, we'll be in endless cycle of lather, rinse, repeat if we don't win a title in any given season.

Definitely agree, but there is kind of a double speak on here and I have always had a tough time with what our standard should be. Personally, I want UND to compete for a national title every season and to make the tournament. It's wholly unrealistic to expect a national championship every year. Some say we should win it every year. I think, and I could be wrong, but what is/are/should be this program's expectations each year?

This legit made me lol. Well done. And I'm always in the duckies and bunnies crowd

He's just saying they are still playing games. I don't understand why this is a big deal. We could be 0-20 and still win out in the playoff and make the tourney. He's not saying it's going to happen. He's saying it's possible, and he's right.