krangodance

This poll doesn't have anything to do with the post-season does it? I'm under the impression that the Sports Network rankings are all that matter. If I'm wrong please correct me.

In fact, both of these polls are from last week.

Nevermind. I just checked. The Sports Network poll that's posted above is still from last week only the records have been updated to include this past weekend's games. The new poll is not out yet.

How is it possible that North Dakota is not only behind Sac State but they received less than half as many points as Sac State?! This makes no sense at all. Am I missing something? I guess this does say it's a "previous poll" but the records look up-to-date.

Thanks!

I can't find this Media Advisory anywhere else. Nothing on UND's web site. Nothing recent in Google searches. Nothing on this site (other than this thread). Is there a source for this?

Interesting perspective. Respectful post I might add, especially considering the post to which you're responding. I'd still like to see them play though. Even if it was just every other year. They could still both make the playoffs just the same as two teams in the same conference regularly make the playoffs even though they play each other every year. Like Montana and Montana State. If we were talking FBS then I'd be more inclined to agree with you.

Good call for week one. Almost nailed the points for.

Nice!

This simple, fact based statistic should win the debate but, unfortunately, most people nowadays would prefer to engage in hyperbole than make a logical determination based on hard facts.

I'm not taking on a side in this poll but in reference to the question posted above...obviously! I mean I wouldn't necessarily refer to it as a penalty but rather a statistical fact that must be included in the argument (if this argument must be had). To expect a total population to have no impact on attendance for any event within that population is illogical. NDSU has about a student population about 10% higher than UND so we should expect like for like comparisons of student attendance (which this poll is not) to be about 10% higher at NDSU than at UND. The city population of Fargo is about twice that of Grand Forks so we should expect like for like comparisons of non-student attendance to be about twice as high at NDSU events than like for like UND events. Another factor, which is specific to this poll, is the popularity of the sports in question. Anybody who disagrees that football is the more popular sport in this country when compared to hockey is either a liar or is simply ignorant on the topic. I would expect a football game in a football market to attract at least two times the fans as a hockey game in a hockey market. Given that UND hockey games attract around 11,000 people we can probably assume it's about 1/3 students and 2/3 other. Meaning about 3,600 or so students and 7,200 or so other (this only gives us 10,800 so I'm actually low balling the attendance total at UND hockey games for this example). I would, therefore, expect the student attendance to be around 4,000 if our student population was as large as NDSUs and the other population to be around 14,400 if the population of Grand Forks was as large as that of NDSU. This gives us a total attendance of 18,400 for hockey if the population was equal to that of Fargo. Doubling that for footbal if we were in a football market gives us 36,800. If NDSU

I don't know about the rest of you but anytime I see a post start this way I just skip it (well other than this time since I did reply). Just so negative and confrontational. Unnecessary really.

I can't relate to this comment at all. I consider the Big Sky one of the most competive and successful conferences over the past decade at the FCS level. My bias is definitely based in the fact that I'm a huge football fan and I don't really care much about basketball or other sports that are hosted by the Big Sky conference. From a football standpoint, though, I couldn't pick a better conference for my team (except FBS level conferences but those are out of the question for UND at this time).

I'll go with option C: Watch the games, enjoy the football season while it lasts and see how it plays out.

HA!!

This has now moved beyond a comedy of what will be said next and into an eye roll inducing mincing of words and double talking. I'd recommend you let it go but I know that will never happen and, besides, anybody who is still arguing with you at this point is likely as clueless to how ridiculous your conversation sounds at this point as you are so you might as well just have at it. Who knows, maybe it's one of those things where it starts out funny, gets annoying then, if continued well into the annoying phase, somehow gets hilarious.

I predict we will look back on this quote in five years and decide confidently that you were incorrect. We'll see.

I can't access that thread either. Is it private? Is that even a setting? If it is private then whomever posted it is missing the point of a "forum".

I thought my research skills were better than they are. I looked at college hockey inc and di'dnt find this. Thanks!

I've seen posts here in the past that show the number of former NCAA players in the NHL playoffs but it's been a few years since I've seen something like that. I've tried several searches on Google and various hockey / sports related web sites (NHL.com, CollegeHockeyNews.com, ESPN.com, etc, etc) and I can't find this information anywhere. Does anybody know where I can find the breakdown of former NCAA players in the 2012 NHL playoffs by NHL team? Even if I could just find a site that shows current active NHL rosters with the team each player came from before entering the NHL that would work. I've seen such sites in the past but none of the sites I've found today listing active NHL rosters contain the information I need. Thanks in advance for any assistance anybody is able to provide.

Has anybody heard anything about when and where the new jerseys will be available for sale?

I love it when Jim uses actual mathematical statistics to quantify my claims. Check it out: http://blog.siouxsports.com/2012/03/23/1777/

I see both sides of this debate. On one side you have a group of people who feel they'd be compromising their principles by accepting the fact that the logo must go. I can admire that. I think most of us agree that the NCAA have behaved like bullies throughout this process and nobody has been willing to stand up to them other than UND. Some people feel that if UND just rolls over like most other universities have done then what's next? What's to stop the NCAA from feeling emboldened to implement even more ridiculous rules simply because they know they can do so unchallenged? These are fair points and nobody can say for sure that continuing this fight won't prove worthwhile in the long run, reglardless of what negative scenarios we can envision in the short term. On the other side you have a group of people who understand the potential penalty these sanctions could incur. Many of these people were fighting the good fight when it seemed there was a chance to save the logo but have since accepted that the time to save it has likely passed and the damage that could be done by keeping the name and logo outweighs anything that fighting to keep them could accomplish. Certainly the issues with Big Sky membership and hosting post-season events are major considerations that can't be ignored. Some on this forum will state confidently that the Big Sky is bluffing but reason tells us that we can't know that. I don't think anybody is wrong in this debate. It's all a matter of what's personally important to each individual. It seems to me that both sides have thoroughly, and repeatedly, made their points and nobody seems to be influenced by the other points of view. It's becoming rather redundant at this point. Whatever though. If people feel better by stating a point, whether for the first time or the 100th time, then so be it. State away. I'd just ask it's kept civil and respectful. If you realize somebody is incapable of that there's always the ignore functionality, which works much better at chasing these folks away than does retaliation in kind.

I've been posting on this forum for years. I know who Fetch is and his posting history. I just view name calling as inappropriate on this forum and, really, you're just proving to Fetch that his jabs are getting to you when you sink to the level of name calling.

Obviously nobody who loves this team would consider that trivial and I in no way meant to imply it was trivial. I do think Fetch not realizing that the NCAA sanctions prohibit UND from hosting post-season NCAA sponsored events is trivial. He's just one person who is misinformed. That doesn't change anything. That's not important. It's also certainly not drastic enough to call him stupid. I think you simply misunderstood what I was calling trivial.