Bison06

You mean like when bubba was hired? His experience was less impressive and many still considered the hire a "grand slam". As I said, when it's the home team every decision is viewed for its silver lining. Obviously his ties to UND change the equation, but many on this board were optimistic because he had been at UMD and SIU.

If this was a UND hire you'd be saying exactly what Bison fans are saying. Great to have a coach with such vast and varied experience on the staff and been a coordinator at a P5 school. When it's your school we see what's good about a hire, when it's the other guys school we see what's bad about the hire. And the world goes round and round.

What makes you think the talent pool is slipping? I've been following NDSU recruiting since the late 90's and the caliber of athlete they are recruiting in the last 5 years is on par with the athletes they recruited the 5 years before that which lead to 5 NC's in a row. As with all teams it'll be about bringing them together as a group. If NDSU football slips in any way in the coming years it certainly won't be because they don't have good enough players.

Made me feel better? Learn to follow along and this all won't be so confusing to you.

Repeat: I never said a word about him as a coach, never heard of him until this morning. I said his resume is about as impressive as an FCS coordinator hire can get. I'm sure there are some, but I can't think of any FCS coordinators that once held the same position at a P5 school.

Rare...never said it has never happened.

I quoted you as saying "his resume doesn't blow anyone out of the water", I never heard the man's name until today so I can't speak to his ability to coach, but to say his resume isn't impressive for an FCS coordinator hire would be patently false.

You make a fair point,and it would be interesting to find out any/all details of his time at ISU, but my point still stands. It's exceedingly rare for an FCS coordinator to have at any point in his career held the same position at a P5 school. That alone makes his resume quite impressive which is what I was responding to.

As you said, time will tell. But as far as FCS hires go, his resume does blow most candidates' out of the water. Any time an FCS school hires a coach that has been at a Big 12 school for the same position, that's more impressive than 99% of resume's FCS coaches have.

I suppose they have to write about something, but lists like this at the FCS level are crazy. Recruiting even at its highest levels can be a crap shoot, but when you get to the FCS ranks 90% of the players aren't even on the radar for most national recruiting gurus. It would be interesting to see how this list was compiled.

He wasn't my favorite coach in terms of guys that really poured into you as a person, but I don't feel like that's how every coach should operate. Coach Bohl operates much more like a CEO, delegating the necessary things to his assistants. I think there are many approaches to being a head football coach that can be ultra successful, as long as you are being authentic in that approach, clearly this his approach works for him. Contrast him with a Dabo Sweeney type who seems to act as a surrogate father or preacher in these young men's lives, that approach works for Dabo because it's who he is. If Bohl tried that way he'd fail.

Played for him for 3 years and if I was an outsider looking in I would have that perception too. But in private conversations with him over those years, I learned perception isn't always reality.

I'm not going to defend a coach I never met, maybe he was a dick. Rocky Hager, or one of his assistants?

I've heard my fair share about UND coaches too. It all goes both ways. Maybe the players who heard from weren't the players on a recruiting trip the coaches wanted to make sure they gave their time to. I had a high school teammate take a recruiting trip to U of M junior year, myself and 2 other friends went with to the gophers spring game and the recruiting festivities. Not one coach spoke to us, Glen Mason walked right by us at least a dozen times without so much as shaking my friend's hand or making eye contact. It would be easy for me to say Glen Mason was an a-hole, but I also know 3 of his former players that would run through a wall for him. So who is right? The truth is my buddy wasn't very high on their recruiting radar so they had more important players to talk to and ignored him. I see it as coaches utilizing their time properly.

Completely different coaching staff. I bet the kids who chose NDSU would say exactly the opposite. Also, if a kid chooses not to go to a certain school clearly it didn't vibe right for him and that may be perceived as the coaches not caring about him as much as the school he chose.

Pretty bold comments from the young man. First time I have ever heard anyone characterize NDSUs coaching staff that way, in fact exactly the opposite is usually the story I hear from current and recent former players. If that's what he says then I'm sure he has justification for it, but I will challenge his comment on one point. The winning culture that is instilled in NDSU football players shouldn't be viewed as mutually exclusive from developing a strong character, but rather a vital part of it. I think any truly successful person would agree. Bummed someone would feel that way about NDSU and best of luck to the young man. His experience certainly wasn't my experience.

Jacksonville state beat ole miss in 2013 and South Carolina got beat by citadel, Jacksonville state took auburn to overtime.

Of course match ups and styles play a role also. For example, if Oregon is back to being a top 15 school by the time NDSU plays them in a few years, I don't expect that to go well for NDSU. The Oregon style is extremely difficult for any FCS team to matchup against. On the other hand, a team like Stanford, even when they are really good, has a style that is more conducive to an upset if you can matchup somewhat well with their physicality.

In a one game setting, I would give any FCS team in the top 5-8 depending on the year a legitimate chance to win against any one of those teams, yes. I'm not sure why you're having a hard time believing it could happen when it has happened already in the past. FCS teams have beaten ranked FBS teams in the past and will likely do it plenty more in the future.

I'm not necessarily touting NDSUs success, moreso the elite FCS schools as a whole. And yes, it's only one game, but the other thing to take into account is it's also always an away game.

What point are you making? The guy said he would like to see NDSU keep it close with an SEC team. Given NDSUs history with FBS teams and other high end FCS teams beating and playing competitive games with SEC teams, it's reasonable to conclude that a really good FCS team can play competitive football with FBS schools outside of the super elite programs e.g. Alabama, Ohio state, michigan(there was that one time though). I'm not just coming here saying how great NDSU is, I'm saying the top end of FCS is on par most years with any FBS school outside of the top 15-20. You can disagree if you like, but there is ample evidence supporting my assertion.

Hmm, auburn getting taken to overtime by Jacksonville state last year comes to mind. georgia southern also beat Florida in 2013.

Any SEC team? Don't undersell FCS football so much. Many upper level FCS teams have played competitive games with the almighty SEC.

Yikes, don't remind me! I can understand why the coaches want to build some depth.

Makes sense. Heck of an athlete that's for sure.