Bison06

I've heard my fair share about UND coaches too. It all goes both ways. Maybe the players who heard from weren't the players on a recruiting trip the coaches wanted to make sure they gave their time to. I had a high school teammate take a recruiting trip to U of M junior year, myself and 2 other friends went with to the gophers spring game and the recruiting festivities. Not one coach spoke to us, Glen Mason walked right by us at least a dozen times without so much as shaking my friend's hand or making eye contact. It would be easy for me to say Glen Mason was an a-hole, but I also know 3 of his former players that would run through a wall for him. So who is right? The truth is my buddy wasn't very high on their recruiting radar so they had more important players to talk to and ignored him. I see it as coaches utilizing their time properly.

Completely different coaching staff. I bet the kids who chose NDSU would say exactly the opposite. Also, if a kid chooses not to go to a certain school clearly it didn't vibe right for him and that may be perceived as the coaches not caring about him as much as the school he chose.

Pretty bold comments from the young man. First time I have ever heard anyone characterize NDSUs coaching staff that way, in fact exactly the opposite is usually the story I hear from current and recent former players. If that's what he says then I'm sure he has justification for it, but I will challenge his comment on one point. The winning culture that is instilled in NDSU football players shouldn't be viewed as mutually exclusive from developing a strong character, but rather a vital part of it. I think any truly successful person would agree. Bummed someone would feel that way about NDSU and best of luck to the young man. His experience certainly wasn't my experience.

Jacksonville state beat ole miss in 2013 and South Carolina got beat by citadel, Jacksonville state took auburn to overtime.

Of course match ups and styles play a role also. For example, if Oregon is back to being a top 15 school by the time NDSU plays them in a few years, I don't expect that to go well for NDSU. The Oregon style is extremely difficult for any FCS team to matchup against. On the other hand, a team like Stanford, even when they are really good, has a style that is more conducive to an upset if you can matchup somewhat well with their physicality.

In a one game setting, I would give any FCS team in the top 5-8 depending on the year a legitimate chance to win against any one of those teams, yes. I'm not sure why you're having a hard time believing it could happen when it has happened already in the past. FCS teams have beaten ranked FBS teams in the past and will likely do it plenty more in the future.

I'm not necessarily touting NDSUs success, moreso the elite FCS schools as a whole. And yes, it's only one game, but the other thing to take into account is it's also always an away game.

What point are you making? The guy said he would like to see NDSU keep it close with an SEC team. Given NDSUs history with FBS teams and other high end FCS teams beating and playing competitive games with SEC teams, it's reasonable to conclude that a really good FCS team can play competitive football with FBS schools outside of the super elite programs e.g. Alabama, Ohio state, michigan(there was that one time though). I'm not just coming here saying how great NDSU is, I'm saying the top end of FCS is on par most years with any FBS school outside of the top 15-20. You can disagree if you like, but there is ample evidence supporting my assertion.

Hmm, auburn getting taken to overtime by Jacksonville state last year comes to mind. georgia southern also beat Florida in 2013.

Any SEC team? Don't undersell FCS football so much. Many upper level FCS teams have played competitive games with the almighty SEC.

Yikes, don't remind me! I can understand why the coaches want to build some depth.

Makes sense. Heck of an athlete that's for sure.

Is boltman going to end up being a QB at UND? Watched him play a couple times this year and was very impressed, but kept thinking he would be a much better fit as a safety at the college level. I'm sure the coaches will get it right.

The vast majority here is interesting. Just bored with the talking point that one side has an inferiority complex or superiority complex or one side misses the other more than the other side misses them etc, etc, etc. It gets rolled out by UND and NDSU fans alike. Its more than possible to be interested without being obsessed and to be have an opinion on an outcome without "missing" the other school. For me, it's akin to an NDSU fan saying UND "followed" NDSU into division I. It's a lazy and childish thing to say and holds no merit.

So if I have an objective view that UND and it's fanbase would be best served by having traditional rivals on their schedule who are significantly closer for their core fanbase to be able to travel to away games, significantly closer for parents of players to be able to travel to away games in many cases, all while saving UND money on travel costs, that means I miss UND? What a boring narrative, get past it.

Now I'm on board. Missed the nuances of the metaphor the first go round.

Your metaphor is flawed. A quilt eventually becomes one cohesive entity. His patches are scattered on a table in a random order and there isnt a needle or thread within a mile radius. In any event, the whole thing is entertaining I suppose. The biggest question I have and many others do as well. Why are UND fans going to all of a sudden flood the turnstiles at UND athletic events for an FBS no name team, when they aren't currently doing that for teams that in many cases are more of a household name in the upper Midwest? FBS isn't some magic dust that all of a sudden excites people to support your athletic teams. Playing traditional rivals and teams your fanbase has actually heard of has a better chance of doing that. Summit and MVFC would be the best option IMO.

Ok, but to be fair, given the timing that prediction wasn't really very difficult to see coming. His timelines have come and gone and come and gone over the course of nearly a decade with nothing happening. You have to admit it's become very clear that he's making significant logical leaps. It would be one thing if he presented it differently. But, he presents it as fact and anyone who doesn't make the leaps with him is labeled an idiot. When he presents the information in that manner it becomes a joy to watch his predictions fall through.

I've yet to see something he has predicted come to fruition. Which of them have actually happened?

If we can determine when the next jubilee year is coming, I'm sure we can begin to establish a timeline for all of this. 2016 must have been more of a joyous year than a full on jubilee year. My Ayurveda practitioner told me my third chakra has been closed for some time and my wind meridian is blocked, I think it's my fault none of these things are happening. On the next blood moon I'll make a sacrifice and see what I can do to help things along.

I'm not sure why you are trying to make the point that NDSU was fortunate to be in the position they were this year with me. I actually agree with you. Given that NDSU played the majority of their season without their 2 best defenders(at the two most important positions in our defense) I'd say they were very fortunate and it is a testament to the team depth that they played as well as they did. Especially given that when coming into this season, most knowledgeable Bison fans expected this year's team to be a step back from previous years.

Every team's fans claim victories like that, in fact there is a whole website set up to be able to do that. Nobody who knows even the smallest bit about football is serious when they bring up those conversation. It's just for fun.

Thanks for the response. To your first point, I agree Richmond was a legitimate team, but as has been said on here literally thousands of times, there are no moral victories in football. There are so many ifs and momentum conversation surrounding games. I believe you when you say that if not for that one play UND might blow them out, I've played in games where I felt like one fluky type play changed the complexion of game completely and then things spiraled out of control. But at the end of the day when evaluating a season, W's and L's are the only stats that really count for anything. I think most would agree. So when it gets said that if not for a couple of plays UND might have run the table this year, it's just as easy to say that a couple of plays going the other way and UND goes 7-4 again and might be on the outside looking in on the playoffs. Also, to play devil's advocate further, it's important to remember that Richmond was playing with their 3rd string QB who was starting his second game ever, I believe. Look, in reading back on a few of my posts these past couple of days, I realize that I've come across as really downplaying UND's success this year. I was actually very impressed with UND at times this year, I feel like the defense was very good and the offense complimented the defense very well. Where I have questions, and I figured many of you would to which is why I asked the question, is when looking at your regular season schedule and realizing the only two "signature wins" on that schedule were against teams who laid an egg in the playoffs, does that give you doubts on how far UND had come? Pretty harmless question, but once a question is asked, people tend to be offended by the context of the question. Like I was somehow trying to belittle UND's success and worse yet from a Bison fan. The truth is I do that every year when teams make the playoffs, even NDSU. Given how college football is set up, meaning the majority of a team's games are in conference, it can be easy for a team to look either better or sometimes worse than they were depending on the relative strength of the conference. The tough part is, you don't know how solid your conference is until the playoffs most years. Anyway, bottom line, I was impressed with UND this year as were many others. My only hesitation is, given how the Big Sky performed in the playoffs, maybe UND isn't as far down the road to competing for championships as many believe. Maybe I'm completely wrong, but the good news is we won't have to wonder. Next year will tell the story more completely. Schedule is a bit tougher and then the playoffs are the ultimate equalizer. FCS football is great compared to the pretend playoff the FBS has. Sorry for the long post, doing my best to respond since I contributed to starting the firestorm this weekend.

What in heaven's name are you blathering about in the first two paragraphs of your post? Hope all that made you feel better. If I'm breaking any rules by being here, nobody from the moderation staff has let me know about it. Until they do, I'll assume my posts are within the site regulations.

NDSU bias aside, the media hasn't been about reporting the "news" objectively in decades. Maybe they never were. They'll talk about whatever gets people clicking, sharing, reading and talking about their content. And yes, people can get paid to post on twitter if they have enough followers. Same with facebook, instagram and YouTube.