Bison06

I thought about that as I said it. Hopefully it isn't taken that way. What a mess that would be. Haha.

Playing somewhere and coaching somewhere are very different things. Yes, not all P5 teams are created equally, but they have the budget to get higher quality coaches so usually earning the position of coaching at a P5 school means you are a higher quality coach. Not always of course, but again speaking generally it's true.

Also, good coaches get fired all the time. Too many variables in the world of coaching to assume that someone being fired means he was even the problem. I don't know the details of his Iowa state firing, just speaking generally. After all, Bill belicheck was once fired by the browns.

Can't fault you for your enthusiasm in your program, but don't for a second think that NDSU is done with the run they are on. Next year will be another deep playoff run.

I know words are hard, but there is a thing called a dictionary that would make life less confusing for you.

You're obviously not in communication. Pops in voice tone, pauses and repeats are utilized to emphasize importance when communicating thanks for your concern though.

I suppose it's human nature when two sides have opposing views, but it'll never cease to amaze me the level of hairsplitting a person will maneuver through to somehow draw the conclusion that the other party is in the most infinitesimally way incorrect when making their argument. "He's excellent" "I can't believe you would think he's excellent, he's clearly only fantastic" "how could he be fantastic when it's obvious to everyone he is merely sensational" Its exhausting. It's a good hire. Is "good" the proper adjective we can all agree on?

Fair on all points.

I know many, many people who are in coaching and that position move makes perfect sense to me. After being let go from a position it is not in a coaches best interest to ever take a year off and do nothing, just looks bad on the resume. Many coaches who are let go or the staff is let go have guys who will take literally whatever they can find so they don't have gaps on their resume. Had a friend who went from having a job in the NFL to volunteering at a high school for 3 months so he wouldn't have a gap on his resume. I don't put much stock in that time at Indiana.

I've been around this board long enough to know there are some pretty smart people who post here regularly. Why are such smart people having a hard time understanding that this guys' resume would be cause for enthusiasm for any FCS school? As I've said, someone with his experience is almost never hired at an FCS school. How he will actually perform is something yet to be seen, but on paper it certainly looks like a nice hire.

So then you bringing up that you've been watching since the 60's was in reference to what point. Or was that you trying to compare Johnsons with me?

Ok... So NDSU' talent pool has been slipping since the 60's? You're off the rails.

You mean like when bubba was hired? His experience was less impressive and many still considered the hire a "grand slam". As I said, when it's the home team every decision is viewed for its silver lining. Obviously his ties to UND change the equation, but many on this board were optimistic because he had been at UMD and SIU.

If this was a UND hire you'd be saying exactly what Bison fans are saying. Great to have a coach with such vast and varied experience on the staff and been a coordinator at a P5 school. When it's your school we see what's good about a hire, when it's the other guys school we see what's bad about the hire. And the world goes round and round.

What makes you think the talent pool is slipping? I've been following NDSU recruiting since the late 90's and the caliber of athlete they are recruiting in the last 5 years is on par with the athletes they recruited the 5 years before that which lead to 5 NC's in a row. As with all teams it'll be about bringing them together as a group. If NDSU football slips in any way in the coming years it certainly won't be because they don't have good enough players.

Made me feel better? Learn to follow along and this all won't be so confusing to you.

Repeat: I never said a word about him as a coach, never heard of him until this morning. I said his resume is about as impressive as an FCS coordinator hire can get. I'm sure there are some, but I can't think of any FCS coordinators that once held the same position at a P5 school.

Rare...never said it has never happened.

I quoted you as saying "his resume doesn't blow anyone out of the water", I never heard the man's name until today so I can't speak to his ability to coach, but to say his resume isn't impressive for an FCS coordinator hire would be patently false.

You make a fair point,and it would be interesting to find out any/all details of his time at ISU, but my point still stands. It's exceedingly rare for an FCS coordinator to have at any point in his career held the same position at a P5 school. That alone makes his resume quite impressive which is what I was responding to.

As you said, time will tell. But as far as FCS hires go, his resume does blow most candidates' out of the water. Any time an FCS school hires a coach that has been at a Big 12 school for the same position, that's more impressive than 99% of resume's FCS coaches have.

I suppose they have to write about something, but lists like this at the FCS level are crazy. Recruiting even at its highest levels can be a crap shoot, but when you get to the FCS ranks 90% of the players aren't even on the radar for most national recruiting gurus. It would be interesting to see how this list was compiled.

He wasn't my favorite coach in terms of guys that really poured into you as a person, but I don't feel like that's how every coach should operate. Coach Bohl operates much more like a CEO, delegating the necessary things to his assistants. I think there are many approaches to being a head football coach that can be ultra successful, as long as you are being authentic in that approach, clearly this his approach works for him. Contrast him with a Dabo Sweeney type who seems to act as a surrogate father or preacher in these young men's lives, that approach works for Dabo because it's who he is. If Bohl tried that way he'd fail.

Played for him for 3 years and if I was an outsider looking in I would have that perception too. But in private conversations with him over those years, I learned perception isn't always reality.

I'm not going to defend a coach I never met, maybe he was a dick. Rocky Hager, or one of his assistants?