Bison06

NDSU ran it more than UND does now when Ryan smith was on the team.

It was a major staple of NDSU's offense during their run. Ohio state also runs it pretty consistently.

...ok?

The problem with message boards is grey area or nuanced opinions aren't understood or even seen. If an opinion doesn't fall in the company line perfectly, it's viewed as dissenting and opposing. My opinion was never that MSU was great, nor was it that UND wouldn't be successful against them. I simply stated that MSU looked good against a fully funded SEC defense...impressive given MSU's status as a doormat in the MVFC. Many here somehow took offense to that opinion for some odd reason. UND impressed yesterday.

I do, don't you?

Why? Missouri state DID look impressive last week. UND shut them down this week. I think UND shutout a formidable offensive attack today, don't you? If the Missouri state offense isn't very good, then what about today's UND defensive performance is good?

I'm right here. Which would you like to believe, that UND has an incredible defense that shutdown an offense that looked impressive against an SEC team last week or that UND just shutout a crappy offense? I think it's the first one, but you're welcome to choose to believe that it's the latter if you like.

What are you even talking about? Are you thinking of Carson Palmer? And also USC and Stanford are both known to run Pro style offenses. In fact, Stanford is the epitome of a pro style college offense.

One of the greatest offensive minds in the NFL is wrong? If you say so.

https://amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000472366/article/bruce-arians-criticizes-colleges-spread-offenses?networkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%3Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%3Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=prtnr%3Daround-the-league%3Bteam%3Darz%3Bconf%3Dnfc%3Bdvsn%3Dncw%3Bplyr%3Dcolin_kaepernick&p.ct=Around the NFL&p.adsm=false&p.tcm=%23fff&p.bgc1m=%230964bf&p.bgc2m=%23053a74&sr=amp Don't take my word for it. Sorry for the long link.

Of course there are some that can make the transition, but the fact that there are so few college spread offense QB's that you can find with Goff being a huge question mark at this point shows that they are the "exception that proves the rule". Watch the NFL draft and analysts talk about QBs and they always put a negative mark next to spread offense QB's as "let's see if they are able to call plays in the huddle and make the necessary reads themselves without the OC doing it for them from the sideline"

I agree with you that no huddle spread isn't about dumbing down the offense, but it could be said that it does take away the "reading of the defense" from the QB and puts it in the hands of the play caller. Which in a way is "dumbing it down" for the QB. This is why you see so few "spread Qb's" make it in the NFL where all of that responsibility gets put on the QB.

I think you and I have different definitions of trolling.

They almost use it as a way to get more scholarship players on campus to hedge their bet on certain recruits to may not pan out.

What about grey shirts, how does that fit into he equation? Is there a limit on how many of them you can have on your roster? I feel like Alabama really takes advantage of that situation more than other schools. Maybe that's just the perception.

Thanks for the clarification. So can each subdivision still only have a total of 85 student athletes on scholarship?

I have been extremely complimentary of UND and their staff when appropriate. I've stated, as have many others, that given how last season ended for the Hawks it's fair to wonder if they were as good as their record showed. Outside of that I've been impressed with the UND football team and how quickly they've turned things around. As far as Bison negatives, since 2010 what is there to complain about or criticize? Truthfully, what would I say that would be negative about NDSU's football team? The off the field stuff that is years ago at this point, I was very critical of NDSU's players and thought the punishments handed out were appropriate in nearly every case. The only thing I can think of is a lack of breakaway talent at the reciever position. Other than that, they are one of the best coached, most disciplined football teams I have ever watched. I think your hatred for all things NDSU is really clouding your judgement on what I am posting and for sure on how good NDSU's football team really is. In the past two day I've seen you post that NDSU was overrated last year, when it's a provable fact that they were at least one of the best four teams last year(I would argue top 2 and make a strong case). I've also seen you say NDSU is overrated this year with no real reason other than you want them to be rated lower to back up your statement. I'm not trolling, I'm giving my honest assessment of the situations,. Just because you disagree doesn't make me a troll. Whats the fun of a board like this if everyone agrees with everything, there would be no discussion. Boring if you ask me.

Better get used to it, we'll be conference mates again in a couple years. Isn't it great?!?!??

Good luck against MoSt

Eastern Washington? That situation will play itself out this week, but based on their performance they might just be having a down year. I think EWU might miss the playoffs this year. So disagree there. JMU is ranked ahead of NDSU(correctly)so that's a moot point. SDSU you say they beat NDSU and then fail to mention NDSU trounced them when it counts. They may be good this year, we'll see. No reason to rank them ahead of NDSU at this point in the season. youngstown lost a ton, they may not make the playoffs this year. Anyone else?

See how you used the word feel there, like wishing and hoping and praying. Anything can happen, but all indications are that this year's team will be better than last year. Very similar to UND's situation. QB is a year older, key players back from injury. You lost an NFL prospect corner and still feel good about the team, NDSU lost an all American end and still feels good about their team. NDSU "should" be better this year, just as UND "should" be better.

Who would you rank ahead of NDSU?

They may very well be, but I feel like many on here are falling into the same trap that a lot of NDSU fans have fallen into over the years. You see some FCS teams have some success against FBS teams and you get an over-inflated view of how "close" FCS and FBS teams are. Let's not forget, this is a P5 team we are talking about in Mizzou. There is literally, not one player on MoSt's team that wouldn't have taken a scholarship offer to Mizzou if offered. They have a minimum of 22 more scholarship players. That's more than entire recruiting classes sometimes at an FCS school. Maybe I'm different in this thought than most, but it's exceedingly rare for an FCS team to put up a decent fight against P5 schools, look up the numbers, it nearly never happens. As has been said, let's see how it plays out, but color me impressed with MoSt after week 1.

Based on what? I've looked up Mizzou scores, they aren't historically horrific on defense. They certainly aren't dominant, but they're not a sieve. If it makes you guys all feel better to completely dismiss your next opponent's performance against an FBS team as "anyone would have put up 43 against that defense" then you have the right to do so. I watched the link to the game and I came away genuinely impressed with MSU's offense. As I said, I've been watching them play NDSU and following their scores since they were in the same conference as NDSU, that offense looks to be the most potent offense they've had in years. As I said, we'll see how it translates into wins and losses.

Quote my post where I said they were good. You guys just love putting words in people's mouths and then arguing with those false narratives you created. I said I was impressed, that's it. Didn't say they were going to beat UND, didn't say they have somehow arrived as a force in FCS, my words were simply, I was impressed. That's it. If you had been following MSU as closely as I gave for the past 8 years as a conference mate of NDSU's, you'd be impressed they put up 43 on anyone, let alone an SEC team. Give credit where credit is due, if UND would have put up 43 points against Utah I would have been damn impressed.