Bison06

This is a lie on its face. By sunsetting the Trump tax cuts they will be raising taxes on the middle class.

I think you may have your story book references mixed up.

Did you miss the last four years where the FBI was used as a tool against the president?

Strongly disagree with which part?

My guess is less than 1927.

And you wonder why people think you’re an asshole?

The CIA and FBI have never been the friend of the American citizen. J. Edgar Hoover used the FBI as his own personal secret police force against American citizens.

Because folks tend to move the goalposts when in doesn’t fit their narrative, I’d be interested to hear from some of the left leaning posters on what is your standard for considering election fraud? When Sidney Powell announces whatever she is planning to announce, what could she say that would make your pause and say, “wow, this really was election fraud?”

So you don’t have the science you were discussing?

You cited the tired phrase “science is real” I asked you to provide which science you speak of.

What science do you speak of? Did a landmark study showing quarantining healthy people is effective get published in JAMA or The Lancet that I missed? Please be specific about the science you are referring to.

So you want a fantasy world? 100% buy in? You wouldn’t get that in a communist nation, let alone the United States. Here in the real world, nothing we have done anywhere in the world has impacted numbers over the long haul.

Read: opposes interventions that in practice have been an utter failure and the stats back it up, while simultaneously ruin people’s lives by shutting down their businesses. Show us a single example of a place where lockdowns and masking have created a noticeable and permanent shift in the pandemic.

We have country after country after country providing data that lockdowns are worthless and simply delay the inevitable. Yet, we continue to use lockdowns in the United States.

And how are things trending in Manitoba? Seems they may be just at the beginning of the ramp up.

Seriously, where are all of the people who said Canada was handling this better than us?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/21/americas/toronto-lockdown-covid-intl/index.html I can’t believe how reckless and irresponsible Justin Trudeau has been with Covid. Cases soaring, deaths to follow, he should be put in trial for murder. Did I do that right?

Don’t get all pious on us now old man, you’ve been throwing jabs for months.

I have to imagine in countries around the world where transfers of power are highly contentious and bloody, it probably started the way the trump presidency went. I don’t want to get into a pissing match about whose fault it is, but when you make the attacks on a sitting president as personal and constant as the democrats did during this presidency, I can understand Trump saying F you. That said, I hope we can keep up with transfers of power being peaceful, it’s incredibly important for our country’s future. Without that, we will have chaos.

That wasn’t the context of his “lather, rinse, repeat” comment.

Exactly. Back to your usually scheduled BS and the reason Trump got elected in the first place. Frustrating that these idiots didn’t get the message.

I’ve sort of taken the approach that if there is something real in terms of fraud, it will be big enough news that I’ll hear about it. With that, I haven’t followed the day to day with all of the fraud allegations. Is anything that was said today a “game changer”?

Just playing devils advocate here, as I have the same information you have. What if they are justified in their battle that seems to scare you? What if they are revealing some serious cheating and corruption? Isn’t that a good thing?

I see it this way on that topic. People hate Trump, personally and deeply. In the absence of a direct vote on the presidency in 2018, people voiced their opinion through the only available means they had. The GOP candidates on the ballot were a good enough proxy for the voter to feel like they were sticking it to Trump. In 2020, they had the ability to directly voice their opinion in Trump and didn’t need to vote against his party down ticket to send the message. Obviously 2020 came with a lot more variables that needed to be factored in, but in simple terms I think the above explanation explains it pretty well.

What’s more astonishing is people who don’t see that as a rebuke of democratic policy and see this election as a sign that the GOP is out of touch.