Bison06

I don't think it's a UND thing honestly. Bisonville has become a place where a select group of people turn every thread into an inside joke. Hard to even have a conversation over there and that's why I stopped posting. This group of guys isn't really welcoming to any opinions so I wouldn't take it personal.

I don't really post on bisonville anymore, so I wouldn't know how UND fans are treated there.

This comment right here always makes me laugh on this board. Telling someone to get a life. You realize you had to do the exact same thing he is doing to type that comment to him right? And before you say "yeah but this is not his 'home' message board". Well on the top of your browser you can open multiple tabs, doesn't take much extra time to click on the one next to bisonville.com to get over here.

, I knew he wasn't going to get that comment thrown back in his face when I read it.

What defines the highest level in a college sport? The best and most highly sought after recruits play at that level?

I see you are a one trick pony, keep repeating the same tired comments over and over again. How do you respond to this? Or will you keep avoiding a question asked to you directly? Name removed for tact. CRIMINAL MISCHIEF DROVE WRONG WAY ON ONE WAY ROADWAY FLEEING ON FOOT BURGLARY TERRORIZING FLEEING ON FOOT FAILURE TO APPEAR - BAIL JUMPING SPEEDING VIOLATIONS (87 IN 75 ZONE) DISORDERLY CONDUCT SPEEDING VIOLATIONS (37 IN 25 ZONE) SIMPLE ASSAULT

I forgot, only mention hockey when it benefits the UND poster in the conversation. How do you respond to the football player who had temper issues? No big deal?

Empirical evidence? You really want to open pandora's box? You quickly forget some of the trouble UND hockey players have been in these past couple of years. Then there was a young man from Fargo who played on the football team who had a bit of a temper problem. Seems his issue with the law was slightly more violent than what the NDSU players are accused of. You seem to like history, be sure not to forget UND's when you bring up NDSU's. You are the only UND poster who seems to not understand how quickly all of your comments can get thrown back in your face. You think UND football players don't drink underage? One weekend and maybe a few of those guys get picked up for minors or DUI's.

As far as criminal activity on a Division I college football team goes, I would be willing to bet NDSU isn't even in the top 75%. On any given year even your beloved Sioux players get in as much trouble as NDSU.

Example?

Read what you wrote again. You were stating the margin of victory is important to NDSU, now you are changing it to the number of victories is important. Which is likely the most obvious statement I have ever read on this site.

What evidence do you have to support the claim that NDSU sees it more important to win by a large margin than any other team does? I don't see many NDSU blowouts and I'm pretty sure I have watched more NDSU games than you in the last 15 years.

This isn't FBS, there are no points for beating a team by more or less. If you are going to join in at least come with some accurate comments.

I see that you all have taken the Joseph Goebbels approach to this topic. Fine, carry on.

As I said, they had an easy out. If they felt it deserved suspension they could have sat them for the Robert Morris game and the heat would have been off and they would have still won the game. This logic leads me to believe that the powers that be didn't feel their actions deserved a suspension at all for who knows what reason. Given Coach Bohl's track record with suspension, and don't kid yourself he has always been quick to punish when warranted, I tend to lean in the direction that they don't need to be suspended further.

This butt...(fill in the blank) is really getting old from both sides. It is one of the worst internet memes I have seen and there have been some awful ones. Did the players deserve a suspension? Probably. Were they not suspended because NDSU wanted to win a football game, not a chance. As everyone knows they could have won that football game with the practice squad.

Your comments on this continue to be outrageous. You make NDSU out to be SMU or Miami, calm the hell down. Typical revisionist history. If NDSU felt the players involved in the petition fraud situation deserved a suspension, they could have done so EASILY without affecting the outcome of any significant games. Remember, they knew about this before the season began and could have sat every single starter on the team and still beat Robert Morris by 3 scores. To continue to say they weren't suspended so they wouldn't jeopardize their season just makes you sounds jealous, you should really stop.

Haha, you guys are hilarious. Its like watching a person with multiple personalities have a fight between two of them. Someone brings up NDSU and I respond and then you guys get pissed. It's unbelievable.

I'll let everyone get on with the coaches thread, but feel the need to set the record straight on what I was saying. Darell is clearly trying to misrepresent what I am saying. Others said Texas Tech would be the best FBS team NDSU would have ever played if they played them in 2009 like UND did. I agree. What I don't agree with is that they are the best FBS team NDSU would have played and it isn't even close. I never said TT and CMU were the same, so don't say that I did. I am just saying it isn't like comparing U of M and Alabama, like some posters on here would like to believe. Also, quit cherry picking stats Darell. You use the 2008 TT team to somehow prop up how good the 2009 team was, knowing full well that team was led by Graham Harell and Michael Crabtree who were in the NFL when UND played them. TT was darn good when UND played them, again, so what? I am having a hard time understanding why UND fans want to brag about playing such a good team when they lost the game.

Getting stuck in these tangent arguments is not the point. The original discussion revolved around UND fans questioning the FBS opponents of NDSU. My point was to say that NDSU and UND schedule FBS opponents in exactly the same way and that Texas Tech isn't exactly an FBS powerhouse. So UND goes in and gets beat by 20, great, so what? Should a fan take pride in playing well? Absolutely. But to rip another teams scheduling practices when you do the exact same thing is what I fail to understand.

I said they are a middle of the road PROGRAM, any team can have a few good years. Even the gophers were a bowl team when NDSU played them. Again, UND lost so they could have been coached by Bill Belicheck and won the super bowl that year and I still wouldn't be impressed.

I hate to keep pushing the issue when you have said you are done. But, this seems to be an opinion that runs rampant on this board. So this is for everyone. Texas Tech is a below average Big 12 team, actually very similar in the standing every year as Iowa State, an NDSU FBS opponent. So the "shining star" of UND's FBS schedule is not any better than the FBS teams NDSU has played. http://espn.go.com/college-football/conferences/standings/_/id/4/big-12-conference http://espn.go.com/college-football/conferences/standings/_/id/4/year/2011/big-12-conference http://espn.go.com/college-football/conferences/standings/_/id/4/year/2010/big-12-conference

Whose comparing the MAC to the Big 12? I am comparing Central Michigan to Texas Tech. You want to believe that Texas Tech is the class of the Big 12? Go ahead. The rest of us live in reality where Texas Tech is a bottom/middle of the road Big 12 team nearly every year.

Oh I see, you think Texas Tech is head and shoulders above the MAC champ. Please.

In theory, I agree with you completely. But with playoffs in the FCS the goal has to be to get into them every year, and scheduling is done with this in mind. Using a FBS game as a challenging yet winnable game is a way to build confidence for the team moving into the conference schedule. UNI did the opposite this year and it cost them. They lose FBS games and completely lost confidence and the season spiraled from there.