Bison06

Your attitude towards this completely lacks the understanding as to why it was changed to FCS and FBS in the first place. It is a lower division of football, no knowledgeable person would deny that. However, the old language wasn’t accurate, it designated a school into a category based on their football program(I-A, I-AA, I-AAA) and this was used against I-AA and I-AAA schools in recruiting in the other sports, where in many cases they are equal or superior to many I-A schools. eg. Gonzaga in basketball, SDSU in womens basketball. A change was needed, there are too many Division I schools that can’t afford the financial burden of the amount of football scholarships needed, so a second tier was created and later re-named to more accurately reflect the purpose of said division. I’m sure it makes you feel good to denigrate the division because your biggest rival has been so successful there, but it makes you look not only petty, but worse uninformed.

Chip Kelly didn’t have audibles in his system, you think he’d just let a QB defy his offensive play calling and not be cut the following morning? It’s not a choice, you do what the coaches allow you to do or you don’t have a scholarship.

Many college offenses no longer put audibles on the QB. Many call multiple plays in the huddle, walk to the line, all look to the sideline to see which of those plays they’ll be running after the coaches have read the defense for them. It’s the reason many of the most prolific college QBs in the last 20 years don’t have similar success in the pros. I don’t watch enough UND football to know if this is how it’s done for UND, just saying it isn’t always because a QB won’t do it, they aren’t allowed to.

It’s too early for me to recognize sarcasm.

https://goyotes.com/sports/football/schedule/2015 This team was better than the national champion? Only for a few hours on a single Saturday did they belong on the field with NDSU. That’s why they play the games as they say.

How interesting…wonderful input to the discussion 78.

This comment will be met with significant eye rolling, fairly so, but just asking a question that also reveals my opinion on the topic. Does playing a team close or even beating another team in a single game actually indicate how close those two programs are? Is NDSU a better program than the FBS teams it beat on any given year? Was USD close to NDSU in 2015 when they beat the Bison(who eventually won the national championship) Clearly this comment is annoying and self serving, as a fan of NDSU, but I think it’s a pertinent question to ask and brought up to further the discussion.

But Brock’s stats were awful is what I’m saying. 45% completion percentage.

He was always a leader, but that 2010 season was brutal man. https://gobison.com/sports/football/roster/brock-jensen/4592

That does help, haha Though, people somehow forget the early Brock Jensen years when we won a lot of games in spite of him. Easton Stick also left a ton to be desired his first year as starter.

Hard to say with what we’ve seen from Cole so far. As any football fan knows, the QB sitting on the bench is always the best player on the team when things aren’t going great. He certainly looks the part and has looked good in the limited opportunities he’s gotten. I think people also need to remember this was(without looking it up) Cam Miller’s 10th start maybe, some of NDSU’s all time greats didn’t look good their true freshman year or had the luxury of sitting and learning for much longer than Cam has. He’s been thrown into the fire so I’m giving him time to develop before I say he isn’t the guy moving forward.

Unless those points were given up to a Quincy Patterson run offense your comparison is irrelevant. NDSU’s offense is head and shoulders better with Miller running it. He’s raw and needs more experience, but ndsu is a much more dangerous team with Miller running the show.

Gotcha, my mistake.

Am I remembering the details wrong here? Wasn't the 4th and 2 deep in UND territory? Why would a conversion there "likely" lead to a chance at a field goal?

I'm curious about that mentality as well. Even within that game with NDSU what are the other outcomes if that plays out differently? Say UND converts that fourth down, you're still deep in your own territory with no guarantee or even likelihood, given how the game was going, that another first down would have been gained, so the drive ends in a possible punt. Or, Bubba decides to not go for it and punts and NDSU has the ball down 2 I believe at the time with decent field position depending on how good of a punt UND gets off. It was a hard fought game that could have gone either way in my mind. That play certainly changed momentum, I'm not denying that, but there's no guarantee the game plays out to a UND win if that play goes differently. So saying that one play would smooth over all the rough edges that have been UND's 2021 season seems to be going a bit far.

Gotta defend the leathernecks a bit on this one, even in years when their record doesn’t show it they’ve been a tough out for even the best teams in the conference a lot of years. Missouri State even though they’ve had some good years is more of who I think of as the easier game a lot of years.

I agree with this. My question is: Is NDSU still the elite FCS team they were in 2017 and 2014? I didn’t see anything from either team this past Saturday that tells me either will make a deep run in the FCS playoffs. I expect SDSU to beat the snot out of NDSU with the offensive product we put on the field this year. Teams are allowed to get better as the season goes on, so I hope I’m wrong, but our offense looked brutal and it wasn’t all attributable to UND defense, which was solid.

Deal, but hope to play that game in Fargo. UND’s defense is legitimate. Was impressed with them. Both offenses leave a lot to be desired.

I’m not sure today’s game is a data point that tells you either OC is any good at all.

Give some credit to your defense, but ndsu certainly isn’t the potent offense they once were.

Hell of a game, good luck the rest of the way.

Can’t tell yet if both defenses are incredible or both offenses were bad, but these are evenly matched teams at this stage. could have gone either way today.

Was it? TV didn’t have a great view so you could very well be correct.

I’m biased, but that ball appeared to be inside the end zone to me on the punt.

UND run defense looking stout. NDSU struggling to establish power running game. If that continues I think UND gets the win. Impressive half from both defenses.