Bison06

I’m not sure what you mean exactly by a legit shot. We’re talking about winning a single football game against a team that on paper should trounce you. That happens every other weekend in college football.

Well, the landscape would have to shift immensely for any P5 conference to consider NDSU. As it currently stands, the most likely path to a P5 conference would be through a G5 conference. So, let’s say the MAC takes a flyer and invites NDSU. Not ideal, but maybe a means to an end if NDSU leadership believes FBS football is where they want to be. Spend 10-15 years establishing yourself athletically and academically and growing the university. Fargo continues to grow and maybe in 20 years the population and market is at a level that is more attractive to the big boys. If all that happens, it seems as though the Big 12 would probably be the best fit, albeit, still a tough sell given NDSU’s location. Who knows what can happen. If someone would have told you 20 years ago that NDSU would dominate FCS football the way they have, make four trips to the NCAA tournament in basketball even get a couple of wins while in it, we’d have all thought that was insane. A lot can change over many years.

You asked me a question that made no sense based on my comment. Thin skin? You didn’t say anything that could’ve offended me so I don’t really understand your meaning.

No FBS game this year. Our strength of schedule was pretty low with Albany and Valpo OOC this year.

What do the words hope and eventually mean where you’re from?

I think you’ve outlined pretty well the massive challenges associated with a move up to FBS and the reasons why NDSU may never make the move. Though I hope they do, even if we have to suffer for years in a G5 conference, all the while hoping to become attractive enough for a P5 conference eventually.

Provocateur would be a more accurate description of how I view every sports analyst/commentator.

And you don’t see a connection between his Twitter page and his brand/image? This is how social media works. Who’s simple minded now? He’s generating interest, he’s being provocative, he’s driving conversations, he’s riling up “haters” and probably gaining Twitter followers. Why do you think people in his position would even take the time to tweet if they weren’t furthering that goal.

Welcome to journalism in 2022. Clicks and views, nothing more.

You may be right, but per my post above, what would you write about if you’re in his position? Gotta be tough. Hypothetical FBS scenarios clearly is something driving readership. Here we are discussing it right? Looks like Dom did his job well to me.

I’ll take simple, the world is full of fools complicating things.

I’m not arguing the hypothetical scenario. Only defending the idea of speculating about FBS football for ndsu as a general statement. What else are you going to write about if you’re Dom Izzo? As annoying as it is to outsiders, ndsu winning 9/11 I’m sure makes it hard to find something interesting to write about if your him or think about if you’re a fan.

Maybe I’m different than you, but things I don’t give a !@#$ about don’t get posted about. They actually don’t even enter my mind. The act of posting shows you have an opinion about it, which by definition is giving a !@#$.

Actually I’m not sure it is.

You don’t give a !@#$ what we do, yet here you are criticizing what writers and fans are doing. For someone who doesn’t give a !@#$ what we do, you’re talking a hell of a lot about it.

So which is it? Should NDSU stop being a Varsity team beating up on JV teams or imagine and speculate on a successful future with a hypothetical move to FBS.

I’ve never been behind the idea that the only purpose of a tournament is to declare a champion. I find just as much interest in matchups along the way. Take March Madness as an example. Of course, crowning a champion is ultimately the purpose, but look at the teams that claim multiple sweet 16 finishes, Elite 8 finishes, Final Four appearances. The romanticism that comes from a small school lining up against a big school, regardless of outcome. I think college football has always missed this point. They’ve only ever cared about one thing, who’s the best. They miss half the equation with this line of thinking IMO.

Not autobids for each G5 conference, just one that is set aside for a USF/Cincinnati situation where a G5 team is undefeated and should get a shot in the tourney. It may not matter though, depending on how they choose the entries into a 12 team tournament. If you’re undefeated, even most G5 teams would be ranked in the top 12. If they ever moved to a 12 team tournament, I would feel much better about an FBS move for NDSU. It might take them 10 years to get there, but with an FBS budget, FBS scholarships and everything they goes with that, I could see NDSU finding it’s way to a tournament berth on exceptional years.

A 12 team playoff would likely come with autobids. Would an autobid be set aside, whether explicitly or implicitly, for an undefeated G5 team? I think maybe.

read the context of my statement, I think it’ll make more sense what I’m trying to say here. An extreme example to illustrate the point I am poorly attempting to convey. If one team has a single win over a team that goes on to finish the season 13-1 and wins a national championship, which team is better that year?

I never said the outcome was meaningless, I said you can tell almost nothing about a team from the outcome of a single game. Additionally, the context of my comment revolved around regular season games, obviously playoff games are different as they are elimination games.

I don’t think this is accurate. A team can be better than their last performance or worse than their last performance. Teams are different year to year and depending on timing during a season or simply variables from day to day with a team, you can tell almost nothing about a team based on the outcome of a single game. A team is the sum of its season, nothing more, nothing less.

It just seems like so many here are using a close game with NDSU to justify that UND is close to being at that level. I just don’t see the outcome of a single game win or lose being an indicator of whether or not those two teams are on the same level. Anything can happen in a single game. Ultimately, every single team is no better or worse than their actual record. Just trying to understand that thought process and if you also felt that way.(UND playing NDSU close this year as an indicator that UND is ready to be a contender)

So had UND beaten NDSU and then NDSU had gone on to win the national championship, what would have been your conclusion about where the UND program is currently?

You’re not good at trolling pal, try a new tactic.