Bison06

Maybe I’m different than you, but things I don’t give a !@#$ about don’t get posted about. They actually don’t even enter my mind. The act of posting shows you have an opinion about it, which by definition is giving a !@#$.

Actually I’m not sure it is.

You don’t give a !@#$ what we do, yet here you are criticizing what writers and fans are doing. For someone who doesn’t give a !@#$ what we do, you’re talking a hell of a lot about it.

So which is it? Should NDSU stop being a Varsity team beating up on JV teams or imagine and speculate on a successful future with a hypothetical move to FBS.

I’ve never been behind the idea that the only purpose of a tournament is to declare a champion. I find just as much interest in matchups along the way. Take March Madness as an example. Of course, crowning a champion is ultimately the purpose, but look at the teams that claim multiple sweet 16 finishes, Elite 8 finishes, Final Four appearances. The romanticism that comes from a small school lining up against a big school, regardless of outcome. I think college football has always missed this point. They’ve only ever cared about one thing, who’s the best. They miss half the equation with this line of thinking IMO.

Not autobids for each G5 conference, just one that is set aside for a USF/Cincinnati situation where a G5 team is undefeated and should get a shot in the tourney. It may not matter though, depending on how they choose the entries into a 12 team tournament. If you’re undefeated, even most G5 teams would be ranked in the top 12. If they ever moved to a 12 team tournament, I would feel much better about an FBS move for NDSU. It might take them 10 years to get there, but with an FBS budget, FBS scholarships and everything they goes with that, I could see NDSU finding it’s way to a tournament berth on exceptional years.

A 12 team playoff would likely come with autobids. Would an autobid be set aside, whether explicitly or implicitly, for an undefeated G5 team? I think maybe.

read the context of my statement, I think it’ll make more sense what I’m trying to say here. An extreme example to illustrate the point I am poorly attempting to convey. If one team has a single win over a team that goes on to finish the season 13-1 and wins a national championship, which team is better that year?

I never said the outcome was meaningless, I said you can tell almost nothing about a team from the outcome of a single game. Additionally, the context of my comment revolved around regular season games, obviously playoff games are different as they are elimination games.

I don’t think this is accurate. A team can be better than their last performance or worse than their last performance. Teams are different year to year and depending on timing during a season or simply variables from day to day with a team, you can tell almost nothing about a team based on the outcome of a single game. A team is the sum of its season, nothing more, nothing less.

It just seems like so many here are using a close game with NDSU to justify that UND is close to being at that level. I just don’t see the outcome of a single game win or lose being an indicator of whether or not those two teams are on the same level. Anything can happen in a single game. Ultimately, every single team is no better or worse than their actual record. Just trying to understand that thought process and if you also felt that way.(UND playing NDSU close this year as an indicator that UND is ready to be a contender)

So had UND beaten NDSU and then NDSU had gone on to win the national championship, what would have been your conclusion about where the UND program is currently?

You’re not good at trolling pal, try a new tactic.

Your attitude towards this completely lacks the understanding as to why it was changed to FCS and FBS in the first place. It is a lower division of football, no knowledgeable person would deny that. However, the old language wasn’t accurate, it designated a school into a category based on their football program(I-A, I-AA, I-AAA) and this was used against I-AA and I-AAA schools in recruiting in the other sports, where in many cases they are equal or superior to many I-A schools. eg. Gonzaga in basketball, SDSU in womens basketball. A change was needed, there are too many Division I schools that can’t afford the financial burden of the amount of football scholarships needed, so a second tier was created and later re-named to more accurately reflect the purpose of said division. I’m sure it makes you feel good to denigrate the division because your biggest rival has been so successful there, but it makes you look not only petty, but worse uninformed.

Chip Kelly didn’t have audibles in his system, you think he’d just let a QB defy his offensive play calling and not be cut the following morning? It’s not a choice, you do what the coaches allow you to do or you don’t have a scholarship.

Many college offenses no longer put audibles on the QB. Many call multiple plays in the huddle, walk to the line, all look to the sideline to see which of those plays they’ll be running after the coaches have read the defense for them. It’s the reason many of the most prolific college QBs in the last 20 years don’t have similar success in the pros. I don’t watch enough UND football to know if this is how it’s done for UND, just saying it isn’t always because a QB won’t do it, they aren’t allowed to.

It’s too early for me to recognize sarcasm.

https://goyotes.com/sports/football/schedule/2015 This team was better than the national champion? Only for a few hours on a single Saturday did they belong on the field with NDSU. That’s why they play the games as they say.

How interesting…wonderful input to the discussion 78.

This comment will be met with significant eye rolling, fairly so, but just asking a question that also reveals my opinion on the topic. Does playing a team close or even beating another team in a single game actually indicate how close those two programs are? Is NDSU a better program than the FBS teams it beat on any given year? Was USD close to NDSU in 2015 when they beat the Bison(who eventually won the national championship) Clearly this comment is annoying and self serving, as a fan of NDSU, but I think it’s a pertinent question to ask and brought up to further the discussion.

But Brock’s stats were awful is what I’m saying. 45% completion percentage.

He was always a leader, but that 2010 season was brutal man. https://gobison.com/sports/football/roster/brock-jensen/4592

That does help, haha Though, people somehow forget the early Brock Jensen years when we won a lot of games in spite of him. Easton Stick also left a ton to be desired his first year as starter.

Hard to say with what we’ve seen from Cole so far. As any football fan knows, the QB sitting on the bench is always the best player on the team when things aren’t going great. He certainly looks the part and has looked good in the limited opportunities he’s gotten. I think people also need to remember this was(without looking it up) Cam Miller’s 10th start maybe, some of NDSU’s all time greats didn’t look good their true freshman year or had the luxury of sitting and learning for much longer than Cam has. He’s been thrown into the fire so I’m giving him time to develop before I say he isn’t the guy moving forward.

Unless those points were given up to a Quincy Patterson run offense your comparison is irrelevant. NDSU’s offense is head and shoulders better with Miller running it. He’s raw and needs more experience, but ndsu is a much more dangerous team with Miller running the show.